Good Morning All,
Just getting a regular to go then going Zoe.
Ed - thanks again for the two month tour. Really excellent work.
Dave - you are doing a great job on the Pullman thread. Much appreciated.
My thoughts are with those of you recovering or trying to help others recover from health issues. I did manage to get my first shot of vaccine. The state web site is a disaster but once at the site the folks there (all volunteer fire folks) were superstars. Organised, efficient, professional. Shot went well and no side effects so far. Catch y'all later, way too much going on in the shop. Ciao, J.R.
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Good morning.
gmpullman Did I see some Stratton & Gillette equipment featured in the April issue of M-R? Nice to see one of our favorite Diner patrons recognized Cheers, Ed
Did I see some Stratton & Gillette equipment featured in the April issue of M-R?
Nice to see one of our favorite Diner patrons recognized
Cheers, Ed
i just saw it. Kevin, good to see your S&G in MR. Very clever.,
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Good morning all. The Heavenly watering can is busy.
Dave, TF & Garry. Thanks for your concern. As for been a good husband? Just looking after my 'best mate' like she does for me.
Dave. Great pictures. Thanks for posting
Kevin. You have made it in M R. Fantastic. Someone might send me a copy.
I am been told to 'run some trains'. "After making some coffee."
Coffee time. With some Cherry Pie I made yesterday.
Thoughts & Peace to All who Require.
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
Here she is again:
Grand Trunk Western #6409:
A sister #6408:
And another one:
Made by Lima in 1938.
This is slightly off topic but who cares!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
I wasted away an entire day. We had a "cold" front go through around noon, it rained for about an hour, and the temperature dropped to the low 70s. My wife and I spent the day cuddled on the couch watching nonsense on Netflix.
It was a great way to waste away a day.
The World Is A Beautiful Place.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Attuvian1Now, about that streamliner. Whatever is it?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/railphotoart/25558956371/in/photostream/
https://chuckmanchicagonostalgia.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/photo-chicago-train-grand-trunk-and-western-streamlined-steam-engine-6409-1948.jpg
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Ed,
I don't know how I managed to do this, but I totally missed the two videos that you posted on the bottom of page 1 covering the rebuilding of the Pullman Headquarters and the history of dining cars. They were excellent!
Thanks,
Cool streamliner at the bottom of the picture!
Wow! That was great stuff, Dave!
Now, about that streamliner. Whatever is it? After enlarging the photo, I don't think I've ever seen a photo of anything like that upper smokebox fairing. I really hope someone can give some info on what this was and maybe even another photo or two of it. I do note it was coal-fired.
Other interesting things here, too. A Central of Georgia coach on the left. In Chi-town? Trucks in the distance have styling that seems to fit maybe the late 30s. But there's no diesel power anywhere. Wonder when the photo was taken.
Thanks again. The diner has been really fabulous these last few months. It's evident that the 'Net is getting a real workout!
John
Thanks for the video Ed.
Our stop in Chicago would hardy be complete without visiting a train station or two. Chicago has had a total of six major stations.
Union Station:
Here is the Wikipedia blurb if you are interested:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Union_Station
The original:
Union Station in the old days:
Dearborne Station ceased rail operations in 1971:
Dearborn St. Station:
Grand Central Station:
LaSalle St. Station:
The original LaSalle St station:
North Western Depot:
Three generations of Chicago stations. Not sure which is which:
Lake St. tower:
What diner manufacturer should we do next?
I enjoyed this little video production:
I was fortunate to have been along for several private car runs in and out of Chicago. Great memories. Glad I did it while I could, sadly I don't see much future in it.
One of the cars I got to work on was an ex Nickel Plate 10-6 Pullman, sold then to Illinois Central and renamed Cynthia (all I-C 10-6 were named for "C" cities on the route) The paint and lettering on these cars remind me of this.
A story about the Pullman, Illinois area:
I have a pass to tour the factory but, for some reason, I didn't get there in a timely fashion:
Pullman_Pass_0002 by Edmund, on Flickr
Wow, a hundred thirty-seven years old!
Here's another Pullman Company pass from my collection:
Pass_Railroad_0010 by Edmund, on Flickr
This is only to occupy the Pullman space. The holder would still need a railroad pass or to buy a ticket.
Regards, Ed
Thanks guys!
Mine has not come in the mail yet, but I am excited to see it.
Finally... 12 contributions to get one in! (actually 1.15)
Just got my currant Model Railroader tonight.
Loved your article Kevin! Sweet!!!
TF
gmpullmanDid I see some Stratton & Gillette equipment featured in the April issue of M-R? Nice to see one of our favorite Diner patrons recognized Cheers, Ed
I think this is really great! I can now say that I know someone who made the big time -- actually published in MR.
And, it's a fun thing to read, too!
Kevin, congratulations!
York1 John
CNCharlie Ray, a GM 567 ? CN Charlie
Ray, a GM 567 ?
CN Charlie
Yep! An EMD 567B to be exact. I can remember several old train employees coming to the Museum during Diesel Days when we would have her up and running. They would get this funny look on their faces and say, "she just doesn't sound right!" LOL
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
PM RailfanGE Switcher delima) Now being an EMD guy, i never really payed much attention to the GEs, especially the switchers. So i was really looking forward to the answer of the diff betwixt 44t and 45t. 2000lbs seems like the 'sarcastic' answer ID give, but that cant be the only diff... really? Learn me something today, please.
Actually I posted the answer a page back..... The 2000lbs is not the answer... It was a few lbs off from that. The major difference was the 45 tonner had side rods as only one set of drivers was actually powered. The 44 tonners only needed to have one person on board as it was under the weight of the requirement to have two crew in the cab back then. I file stuff like that under little known and completely useless information unless I am out at the museum when we are open and I get to spout all kinds of "stuff" like that.
The little engine is a sweet runner and I hope that when we open later this year she will get to pull some trains.
OK, here is another one for you guys...
"Lehigh Valley No. 211 was originally built by Alco for the Pennsylvania Railroad in December 1953 and was delivered as PRR 8445. It is unique in that it has a raised short hood used to house the dynamic brakes and a steam generator for heating passenger cars. For obvious reasons it soon got the nickname “Hammerhead.” It is the only survivor of a group of five RS-3s built with a high short hood for PRR and Western Maryland Railway, and one of only a handful of surviving Conrail rebuilds where the Alco prime mover was replaced with an ???" (You might know if you were paying attention to another post I made a while back.)
Hey folks - one more thing. I need a bit of help from you guys. Especially those from the paint department.
Ya know that flatcar project im doing? Well, im at the point where i want to test paint a few models. My delima is i dont have a/the new spray rig yet. And since its just a test, i was considering using rattle cans. Should be a quick and simple fix for my paint deparment not being up to snuff.
So, where the help comes in is this... I havent used them before (for model railroading) and have no clue "who" would make a decent spray. Or "Who" even makes the colors i need. Which would be - Caboose Red, Boxcar Red, Pullman Green, Freight car Black (not steam black), Roof Black, and a good red wine colored Red. A light grey wouldnt hurt either.
If one company makes pretty much all those- great. Who are they? Do they offer small cans?
Id ask out in the real world (post a thread) but id be reading the same names that are in here anyways. Thanks for the help folks- much appreciated!
Douglas
Hello Railfans!
Top of the morning to yas! Wow, sunny and 60F on the thermo-ticker. I dont mind the 60F, but i could do without the blinding, retina singing, optic nerve frying high beam in the sky! HUMBUG!
John York) After i put on my welding goggles and sunglasses i could see that awesome pic you posted of SF #306 et al. I agree whole-heartedly - THATS the way trains should look! (this forum REALLY needs a centerfold!)
And some odd 50 yarns ago, that very look is what bit me into being a Railfan. More than any other livery out there, and Ive seen them all, the Red Warbonnet is by far, hands down, the epitomy of livery design. Id say thats my opinion, but looking at it, i cant see why that isnt a fact!
Concerning Southern's Crescent. The Crescent was pretty much the only name train running thru my neck of the woods growing up. Albeit AmTrak's version by the time i came into being a Railfan. So i never actually got to ride the Southern version. There were other name trains thru the east side of Va., but none of the same stature.
Plenty of nighttime trips (thats when it traveled my area) from the District of Corruption (our nations capital) to Greensboro, N.C., where Id catch a night of sleep before an all day return to DC via one of Southern's steam specials. IE: 2716, 611, 1218, the next day.
I have NEVER ridden an AmTrak where the staff was not profressional, courteous, helpful, and exceptionally tolerant no matter what name or number the train has. Today they may frown fervantly at dutch door riding, back then all ya got was "Hey, what you doing?" - "Im a Railfan, and Im doing what Railfans do." - "Well, theres tunnels on this line and youll never see one coming... dont stick your head or hands out, be careful!" - "Thank you sir!".
One can only imagine what Pullman service was like first hand beyond that. While i didnt get any menus, silverware, or the like... i did walk away with hair full of cinders, a face like a reversed racoon (goggles ya know), a few pics, and some very fond memorys of steam on the Southern.
As some are envious of those who have been fortunate enuf to have placed hand on throttle, those too can be just as awed by something as simple as the pleasure of dinner on the "Crescent". Indeed i am sir!
GE Switcher delima) Now being an EMD guy, i never really payed much attention to the GEs, especially the switchers. So i was really looking forward to the answer of the diff betwixt 44t and 45t. 2000lbs seems like the 'sarcastic' answer ID give, but that cant be the only diff... really? Learn me something today, please.
Critter Dave) Excellent job so far! Love the pic postings. I had to do a double take with enlargement on the pic "Lake MI in the background, freight terminal on the right".
If you look in the middle of pic Id swear I saw King Kong hanging off one of the roofs! Before much longer itll be "I swear thats Bath & Hammondsport" when its really Wisconsin Central!
See what sunny days will do to your eyes!
Yall have a wonderful evening.
Clear Ahead!
I've mentioned before that in 1978 my wife and I rode the last Southern Crescent to New Orleans from Atlanta. The dining car workers were all in a good mood for their last day of work. The waiter gave my wife this menu. They were guarding all the silverware and plates.
Heartland Division CB&Q Here is an EMD builders photo of a Santa Fe F7 ABB taken at LaGrange. If you like F-units and E-units, that is where they were born.
Here is an EMD builders photo of a Santa Fe F7 ABB taken at LaGrange. If you like F-units and E-units, that is where they were born.
I know I've said this many times, but for me, this is how trains are supposed to look.
howmus Evenin'! Let's see how many of you know the difference between the 44 tonner and a 45 Tonner.
Evenin'!
Let's see how many of you know the difference between the 44 tonner and a 45 Tonner.
2000 lbs
Garry & John: Thank you for both of those beautiful photographs.
Santa Fe F units are truly iconic.
That station is a beauty.
On the F unit photo the warbonnet paint is visible behind the stainless steel grille. I did not know it was painted back there.
I have to head out to do some work, so just a quick photo of a neat Rock Island train station in downtown Lincoln, Nebraska. It is now a bank. It was a great use for a building that otherwise would have probably been torn down.
Heartland Division CB&QSanta Fe F7
Mike
Good morning .....
David ... You are welcome. Prayers continue.
Kevin ... You are welcome reguarding info on CB&Q center cab switchers.
Speaking of the Chicago area, EMD had its huge plant in LaGrange. That was about 10 miles from where I grew up.
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Cheers.
Good morning again
I'll have the fresh lake trout broiled in parsley butter, sauteed potatoes and string beans for .95 cents Ed, Thanks
I got up really early today and I'm all coffeed out. Usually when I do that I have coffee crash around noon
I have to go put the stain on my layout cabinet doors I finished. I better go do that before the coffee crash happens
It's off to the Boiler Room Batman
Elkhart_Valley by Edmund, on Flickr
BandO_4-24-66_service by Edmund, on Flickr
NYC_menu_1927 by Edmund, on Flickr
SeeYou190Seriously, I believe the 45 ton locomotive had slopier hoods and siderods.
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winnah....! The hood may be a difference of when the loco was built, Im not sure, but the 1,000 lb. siderod on each side was the main difference. (together that made a 2,000lb, 1 ton difference. IIRC the reason for GE removing the siderods had to do with the FRA not requiring two people on board with the lighter loco. Just got under the weight limit. edit: Ed beat me to it! The 45 tonners and the 44 tonners were mainly industrial switchers and were liked well by their crews.
You can read all about the old girl here: http://www.rgvrrm.org/about/railroad/rge1941/
gmpullman The 44 tonner skirted this by reducing the weight on axles, much the way the drawbar between the FT-A and FT-B made it one locomotive only requiring one crew.
The 44 tonner skirted this by reducing the weight on axles, much the way the drawbar between the FT-A and FT-B made it one locomotive only requiring one crew.