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Jeffreys Diner March 2021

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:48 AM

Oops, double post, please delete

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:42 AM

Some Forum News

We had a bad derailment in Plymouth Minnesota this last Sunday.  Tweaked the rails like spaghetti.  The video is a bit too long, the first couple minutes is plenty.

The good thing is no one was hurt.  The tanker cars were carrying molten sulfur used to make asphalt.  Those Procor cars must be built rather well as nothing leaked so no evacuations were necessary. CP anticipates the cleanup and rail repair to go well into Summer.

 

P.S.  I think I liked Ed's video from the mid-70s betterYes

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:05 AM

Edited

Nevermind, ...but I guess great minds think alike sometimesLaugh

I'm finally getting the rain day I wanted to wash all the salt off the roadsSmile, Wink & GrinYes

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:00 AM

     Cake Dave! Cake I hope you find something enjoyable to treat yourself to today!

 Garry, I hope you're doing better today Angel

I like these Bednar films. In the Anthracite regions, they show how nasty things had become before the Conrail advent:

Lots of vintage equipment here. Probably all the track seen in the video is gone today.

Thanks for your great tours of the car builders' for this months Diner, Dave YesBow

Regards, Ed

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:52 AM

Good morning, diners.  I'll have plenty of black coffee, please.

My two mile walk this morning was a battle between me and the wind.

Happy Birthday, Dave!  Too bad about his garbage virus keeping you from enjoying the grandchildren.

Hope everyone has a good day!

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:42 AM

Thanks Mike

I tried to snap it back in three times.  It just fell right back off.  Perhaps the snap barbs stayed in the holes.  I'm going to have to glue it or return it and there is no more 2300's left.

 

 

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 8:54 AM

It should just fit back into the holes it came from.

I don't about N scale locos, but most HO scale, you need to remove that railing, or at least detach it from the steps, to get the shell off.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:54 AM

Morning Post Hog!

By the way, any of you guys have any good suggestions on what type of glue I should use to put this railing back on? 

I certainly don't want to make a mess all over my new locomotive.  I'm getting kind of sick of running back and forth to the hobby store and they don't have another #2300 anywaySad

 

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 6:21 AM

Happy Birthday David! Happy B-Day

I forgot to comment on Dave and Kevin's Bridge my last post.  Here's my commentStick out tongueYes

 

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:59 AM

Good morning all.  A wet and wild day with the wind'a'blowin'.  My second birthday  in lockdown.  No hugs from my grandchildren again.  Super Angry

 

 

 

A great host, Dave.  Lovely pictures of Philly.    The city is much bigger than the village Philadelphia here in the UK.  Smile

Kevin.   Great looking bridge.   I thought it was Tyne Bridge here in Newcastle.  Laugh

 

 


Coffee  Coffee time.

 

Thoughts & Peace to All who Require

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:38 AM

Good morning

I'm sure glad grocery shopping is over with from yesterday. Two heaping carts again.  The freezer, refrigeulator and cupboards are full again.  That ought to hold us another six, seven weeks.  I prefer to go to the grocery store as little as possible these days.

Good to hear Ulrich is finally getting closer to moving into his new house.  I hope the very best for him and PetraYes

The host with the most! Thanks for all the info and pictures of Philadelphia Dave.

I didn't know an almond could look like a finger tip Ed.  I enjoy almonds as a snack all the time.  I buy them by the $10 sack but never noticed.  My curiosity got the best of me so I dumped them out on a platter.  I only found two like that in the whole bagIndifferent

Head Over Heels this morning. It seems the young Albatross over in the Bear's neck of the woods, had a bit of trouble with his Landing.

 

Even a bird shows embarrassment with the little Shake of his headLaugh  They say young albatrosses are excellent in Flight right away but have problems with their Landings sometimes.  Seems to me I had some problems with my Landings when I was young tooLaugh

 

Have a great day gentlemanWink

 

 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 2:58 AM

Gidday Dave, thanks for the great hosting and an especial thanks for the link to Budd. Seems he was not only a clever chap but a great employer who took care of his staff.

Hi Bear,

There is one rather negative aspect to George Budd's hiring policies. He would not hire black workers. I'm not trying to make a political comment here. It is simply a statement of fact. As great an employer as he was, he was limited by the times he was in.

Dave

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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 2:23 AM
Gidday Dave, thanks for the great hosting and an especial thanks for the link to Budd. Seems he was not only a clever chap but a great employer who took care of his staff. An interesting photo in that article with the various chalk marks on the Lehigh Valley two bay hoppers.
Hope Ulrichs plans soon come to a satisfying conclusion for Petra and himself.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 11:14 PM

SeeYou190
That beautiful bridge reminds me of the Lionel Hellgate bridge.

Hi Kevin,

Yes, it is a pretty neat bridge.

Dave

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 9:55 PM

That beautiful bridge reminds me of the Lionel Hellgate bridge.

-Kevin

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Posted by cats think well of me on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 8:27 PM

Thank you for the Philadelphia pics! I spent a lot of time in Philly in 2009 when I had a job in the town of Media. I loved that time and rode trains in and out of Philly all the time. 

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Posted by CapnCrunch on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 7:36 PM

Dave,

Great story about the remarkable Edward Budd and the company he built.  Thanks for sharing it and all the photos.

Tim 

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 7:23 PM

Downtown Philadelphia. (Click on images for larger view):

An important piece of history on display:

City Hall:

Philadelphia Museum of Art:

Independence Hall:

30th St. Station:

30th Street Station railyard and power house:

 

Pennsylvania Railroad's original Chelten Avenue station:

Pennsylvania Railroad Suburban Station:

Broad Street station, now a Hard Rock Cafe:

Broad St Terminal train shed:

Broad Street Station train sheds circa 1882:

Interlocking tower:

Philly roundhouse:

Gravers Lane train station 1n 2019. One of several preserved commuter stations in and around Philadelphia:

Valley Forge train station:

Radnor train station:

Shawmont Station to be restored:

Chestnut Hill East:

More to come.

Dave

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 5:51 PM

hon30critter
Here is some information about the Budd Company. They were into a lot more things than just railcars. https://hiddencityphila.org/2018/08/budd-company-an-industrial-icon-that-broke-the-mold/

 

That is an amazing history and I liked the pictures of the abandoned plant today.  Men like Budd helped build this country, and they don't come along real often.

Thanks, Dave!

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 5:31 PM

Here is some information about the Budd Company. They were into a lot more things than just railcars.

https://hiddencityphila.org/2018/08/budd-company-an-industrial-icon-that-broke-the-mold/

I'll dig up some pictures of the Philidelphia area tonight.

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 5:29 PM

SeeYou190
Is he staying in Germany, or did he manage the relocation to Denmark?

Hi Kevin,

Ulrich is staying in Germany. He got a very cool reception in Denmark so he eliminated that option. I'm not sure where in Germany but it is a rural property.

Dave

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Posted by Tin Can II on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:48 PM

Not sure what happened, but I was able to log in as Tin Can with my new email address, and then I couldn't.  So I have not been able to post for a while; and work has been such that I have not had any time to browse the forum. 

Resolution is that I had to create a new profile as Tin Can II. 

I looked at a house last weekend.  It is smallish, but it has a full basement.  Unfortunately, the basement isn't really suitable for a train room, as it is set up for a party room, a pool room, a bedroom and a bathroom.  But that is ok, because there are two barns on the property; a 30 x 50 and a 12 x 50.  Both have concrete floors.  That solves my storage problem.  With a little insulation and a HVAC install; I should have a space for exactly what I want in a layout.  Wife comes up this weekend to look at houses, hopefully, this one will meet her needs.  

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 1:14 PM

hon30critter
Ulrich is making great progress towards building a new home.

Is he staying in Germany, or did he manage the relocation to Denmark?

Great Update In The Diner that you posted! That post must have been a lot of effort, but it was very worth reading. Thank you.

-Kevin

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Posted by CNCharlie on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 1:10 PM

Good Afternoon,

It rained last night and with the mild temp most of the snow has melted in the back yard. Mind you, we had very little this year. We try to keep the bird seed debris cleaned up throughout the winter but still now are faced with some clean up. I will try to get some done today but it is too wet to do much. We are having an early spring.

I too have locked keys in my car but not for a very long time. It can't be done in my current car as the electonic key also contains the lock button that you can only access with the key out. If you do push it and lock the doors while  in the car, it un locks as soon as you pull on the interior door handle. 

Dave, great photos of those Dining cars. I am always amazed that such extensive menus could be produced from those tiny kitchens that weren't exactly steady and all from scratch. Via has a repair facility here and there is always a few of those old Budd cars they use outside. 

Hope we can get vaccinated soon but I fully expect it won't ease my wife's fears much as it isn't 100%. In her mind 90% still means you can get it or not. No amount of arguing can persuade her otherwise even though I took statistical math at university and do have a good understanding about odds. She is a very bright person and arguing with her is difficult. She is an informartion junkie with a near photographic memory. 

I did run the Pacific yesterday and just put a short express reefer train behind it, perfect for just watching it do laps at a decent speed, whistle wailing at the crossings.

CN Charlie

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 8:57 AM

Good morning

I'll have what John's having this morning, sounds good to me.

Grocery day and I'm dreading it.  It's the only time we go indoors around people and the only time I have some anxiety.

Thanks for all the diner car pics Dave.  Enjoyed!  I have a few passenger car pics I can share from Osceola Wisconsin.

Looks like we got another great Billy Joel song added to the list, courtesy of the BearYes

 

Continued thaughts and prayers.  Hope you are well soon Garry.

 

Have a great Taco Tuesday gentlemenWink

 

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 8:09 AM

Good morning, everyone.  Bacon, eggs, and coffee, please.

Dave, thanks for the great pictures.  It really makes me wish I could go ride in those trains and eat in those cars.  The other thing in most of the pictures during that time was that everyone was dressed up.  You don't see people in the trains wearing pajama pants.

We are taking Daisy the Dachshund to the vet today for her annual visit.  I'm sure she will hate it like she usually does.

 

This is the dining car on the Southern Crescent, 1978, right before Southern RR dropped the service and it went Amtrak.  Not the luxury of the 1950s dining cars, but it was a nice trip from New Orleans to Atlanta.

 

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Posted by Water Level Route on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 5:53 AM

Good morning guys.  Below freezing this morning, but supposed to be in the mid-50's this afternoon.  Sure wish I could have these temps on the weekend, but no.  Oh well.  Soon enough.

Garry, prayers headed your way.  Hang in there.

Alvie, great response to the situation.  It sucks, but it is relatively minor and if you use your truck like a truck, it's bound to get some bumps and bruises.  When I got my current one, it was a couple years old, but other than some miles was in pristine condition and I was determined to keep it that way.  Hasn't worked out, but you know what?  If you don't know where to look, you'll never see the damage that's been done.  

Anybody know the waiter's name today?  I really need my coffee.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:27 AM

Good morning all.

Garry.   Our thoughts for a  speedy recovery.  (I have been in the same place  as you.)

Dave.  A great set of pictures.

 

Taking the day as it comes today.  No pressure.

 

Thoughts & Peace to All who Require.

 

David

 

 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:12 AM

Okay gang, it's time to move the Diner!

I'm going to suggest that we go to Philadelphia to study the Budd Company. Certainly the Budd passenger cars are the most recognizable with their beautiful fluted sides. Let's have a look at what they made and, in the next post, the people who made them:

Here is the Wikipedia version. It's worth a read because Budd was into way more than just passenger cars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budd_Company

Here is a photo of the interior of a Budd dining car. Note the beautiful etched glass dividers:

The galley:

Here is a view of the beautiful fluted sides of a Via Rail Budd diner:

An older version:

Missing a little paint:

Another classic example:

Another older photo of a Budd diner's interior:

Here is a newer diner design circa 1986:

A recently refurbished Budd diner. The table settings seem to be missing the opulance of former days:

In Amtrack colours:

Not quite as fancy as some of the Pullman cars, but impressive none the less:

More to come!

Dave

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 3:10 AM

For those of you who might still be interested, Ulrich is making great progress towards building a new home. He will hopefully finalize the property deal within the next week. He is having a bit of difficulty finding a contractor who will build the house within his budget, but he is prepared to downsize the house to get it to where he can afford it.

I can say that he sounds much happier these days. That's a good thing.

Dave

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