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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 14, 2020 9:54 PM

You guys know I love Bridges!  It can be any Bridge!

Even though the bridge does not support railroad tracks but the railroad is there.

I'll start, ...Is this a Trestle or what?

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After I drove under it I had to pull over to take a picture because that's how I rollStick out tongue

 

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 14, 2020 10:06 PM

The original Stoney Creek Bridge was a wooden trestle, here you can see the iron bridge that will replace it taking shape.

Stoney Creek Bridge construction 1893.jpg

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 14, 2020 10:12 PM

That is really cool Brent!

I've always appreciated the new steel one marked down as one of my favorite Bridges.

Didn't know the history behind it until now and I thank you for posting the original wood oneStick out tongueYes

 

The only word for it is magnificent

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 14, 2020 10:26 PM

I see a shed or two in the background with the fallen trees like there's some logging going on there. 

Maybe you can elaborate on that if you know about it?  If not that giant old wooden trestle is beautiful enough for meYes

 

 

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Posted by G Paine on Monday, December 14, 2020 10:57 PM

One of my nephews lives in Pennsylvania, and there are a lot of abandioned rail lines that have been converted into walking and bike trails. The picture at the top resembles some of what he has posted on Facebook from his bike rides. A couple of trails even include tunnels, one long one on a curve; from the middle, you can not see either entrance.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 14, 2020 11:29 PM

Track fiddler
I see a shed or two in the background with the fallen trees like there's some logging going on there. 

I suspect that is lodging for the crew. The rail line goes right along there.

At the loops.

You can see where the rail line went up the side valleys to gain elevation, it was trestle after trestle.

Lots of remnants from the CPRs original 1880s line through the Rockies and Selkirks still exist. Far beneath this spot (190 metres) are the 8km long Connaught tunnel built-in 1916 and at 290 metres depth the 14.6km Mount MacDonald tunnel built-in 1988.

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Further East, lots of remnants and ghost remain where they fell.

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Posted by selector on Monday, December 14, 2020 11:35 PM

The first image shows the central Howe Truss at the base of the Kinsol Trestle over the Koksilah River (Coke-SIGH-La).  This massive truss spans at least 60 feet, and it towers above the two massive concrete supports-with-plinths by perhaps 30 feet.  Above it is the rest of this recently stabilized trestle that is one of the tallest and longest in N. America.

There's a lot going on in the construction of this truss:

Next is a recent discovery of mine.  After visiting Calgary two months ago to see our new grandson, we returned via the Nicola Valley between Spences Bridge and Merritt, British Columbia.  The long gone Kettle Valley Ry ran through the Nicola Valley, I think with CPR trains until the mid-80's. 

You can see a deck atop a sub-divided Warren Truss combined with a deck girder.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 14, 2020 11:47 PM

That is Rich Brent!

Besides everything you brang to the table so far.

The horseshoe trestle and the old steamer that used to navigate it that lays in the woods.

But the best most important liking for me is the stone piers descending back into the woods with the trees health over the years growing up beside them.  

 

It's all goodYes

I may have even missed some things here but it's all goodYes

 

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 12:09 AM

selector

There's a lot going on in the construction of this truss:

And this!!!

Very much to my liking and I am so sorry I didn't include the rest of your post, but this!!!

Being a carpenter I have always been intrigued with the wooden truss bridges.  I started to build one of these and I failed because the glue failed me and it did not work but I will try it again some sunny dayYes

That is way cool Selector!  I appreciate you for posting all that.

 

I have a new wood super glue that I am going to use to build one of these for my layout.  I don't care if it does not fit in with the era of the other Bridges because there is still one of these that has been inspected by Engineers that is still operational today

 

 

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Posted by selector on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 1:03 AM

I'm glad you liked that gigantic truss, TF.

You posted a small trestle overpassing a roadway below.  We have something very similar in Nanaimo, on the Island, about an hour's drive south of us.

The following shows the detail of the stringers atop the caps, and how rough-hewn the undersides of the stringers are in some cases.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 1:16 AM

NICE!!!

You are as crazy as I am Selector!  Although you have under bridge pictures that I really appreciate. 

So you may just be a little bit more crazy than I am which is a compliment from meYes  Thank you!

 

Awesome!

 

Just look at those heavy Timber cuts.  I like old school!!

 

 

 

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Posted by selector on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:43 AM

Yeah, I'm a bridge nut.  Check out this monster, the largest and longest steel trestle in the world, southern Alberta, just outside of Lethbridge.  This is the 'high level bridge' over the Oldman River.

And this complicated wedge truss is at the north end of the CNR bridge across the Fraser River about 10 miles east of Vancouver, British Columbia.

Photo by Andy Cassidy:

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 9:11 AM

My favorite isn’t a bridge but it bridges Mexican Canyon near Cloudcroft NM.  The Mexican Canyon Trestle is 323 feet long by 52 feet tall.  It was one of 58 trestles on the 32 mile long Alamogordo Sacramento Mountain Railroad climbing from 4350’ AMSL (Alamogordo NM) to 9152’ AMSL (Cloudcroft NM).

The rail was narrow gauge in size but standard gauge width.




                                  Before restoration





                                 After restoration, 2010

I climbed all over that goodie in the 60s.
 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:31 AM

selector

Yeah, I'm a bridge nut.  Check out this monster, the largest and longest steel trestle in the world, southern Alberta, just outside of Lethbridge.  This is the 'high level bridge' over the Oldman River.

 

I'm heading into the days where I feel like I'm spanning over the Oldman RiverLaughWink

 

That is a monsterous Bridge Selector!  I have appreciated these new modern steel ones even better these days.

I don't quite remember where it was or what bridge it was.  But someone had posted a bridge similar to this that blew over in a tornado.

It wasn't the bridges fault of the structure not holding up but the inadequate anchor hardware used in the cement footings that decomposed prematurely.  What a shame I remember feeling looking at the after pictures.

That wedge Bridge certainly is an interesting one to look at.  It definitely exhibits the railroad can do whatever they want for whatever situation they haveYes

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:52 AM

RR_Mel

My favorite isn’t a bridge but it bridges Mexican Canyon near Cloudcroft NM.  The Mexican Canyon Trestle is 323 feet long by 52 feet tall.  It was one of 58 trestles on the 32 mile long Alamogordo Sacramento Mountain Railroad climbing from 4350’ AMSL (Alamogordo NM) to 9152’ AMSL (Cloudcroft NM).

The rail was narrow gauge in size but standard gauge width.




                                  Before restoration





                                 After restoration, 2010

I climbed all over that goodie in the 60s.

 

 

Just in time for Taco Tuesday MelStick out tongue  That is a Classic! Yes

 

I can only imagine what a fond memory you have that I could only wish I had.  Great, out of the ordinary memories are Gold.  I wouldn't have let that fence they build at the end of it keep me off that beautiful structure either.

NICE!  Thanks for sharing Mel.  I can really appreciate that Beautiful Trestle.

 

What a beautiful Country with all those Pines under that deep blue sky

 

 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:14 AM

The fencing and signage were added in the restoral project, all there was in the 60s was a Keep Off sign.

I tried several times to cross the entire trestle but always got scared off because of gusty winds coming up the canyon.

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:36 AM

RR_Mel


I tried several times to cross the entire trestle but always got scared off because of gusty winds coming up the canyon.

 

 

I can definitely understand that Mel because I am extremely afraid of heights.

Up High with heavy Winds added to the equation, ...No Thanks!!!

 

But at least you got out on that Bridge a little bit.  Who else can say that!?Yes

 

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Posted by ekervina on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:39 AM

RR_Mel

 


I climbed all over that goodie in the 60s.
 

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I never climbed on it, but I saw it in the '80s when my dad was stationed at Holloman. At the time I had no interest in trains (please don't burn the heretic), but I remember that trestle, 11-year old me found it amazing.

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Posted by Lazers on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 1:46 PM

selector
And this complicated wedge truss is at the north end of the CNR bridge across the Fraser River about 10 miles east of Vancouver, British Columbia. Photo by Andy Cassidy:

Hey Selector, That Fraser River bridge really is something else. As Track Fiddler mentions - 'a prototype for everything'. I checked it out on Wiki & Maps. Lucky it survived that fire in '82 and I guessed the disconnected Gusset-plates on the Catwalk, once continued back to land. Also, there is what appears to be a Hovercraft on the river and a Ship-breaker in the distance - both examples of things not often modelled. But just look at all that fantastic Steelwork - and it was all designed on Drawing-boards, long before CAD, 2D or 3D and Structural-design Software came along. Paul

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:16 PM

While this isn't a road bridge it is one in my neck of the woods that I've been on, under and across over the years:

 RR_views_0020 by Edmund, on Flickr

It was actually being repaired/reinforced when a tornado came through in 2003  and knocked her right to the ground (except the short section that had already been rehabbed). 301 feet tall and 2,052 feet long.

 

 Kinzua-1 by Edmund, on Flickr

The Kinzua Bridge was being used as part of the route of the Knox, Kane and Kinzua tourist railroad.

 RR_views_0023_edited-1 by Edmund, on Flickr

Underneath offered a pretty neat view:

 RR_views_0016 by Edmund, on Flickr

When I heard the news that a storm had knocked the bridge over I was incredulous. Never heard of such a thing but I guess an engineering firm had said that the risk was very real.This video is full of a lot of hooey, but some of the photos are neat:

 

I've got another bridge in mind, too but I'll have to do some digging to remember the name of it.

Here it is:

Aaron Hockley photo, Creative Commons

I always admired how the engineers just built a new, stronger trestle within the existing one in order to beef it up. Great Northern at Rock Island, Washington, over the Columbia River. Amazing. The original truss work was built in 1893 and the added structure in 1925.

Overland made a brass model of this in HO!

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:41 PM

My Grandfather Stuart Fraser was born and raised in Canada before he moved to Minnesota shortly after I was born.

This makes me wonder if his blood name was somehow tied to that bridge in some way.  Probably not but it still makes me wonder.

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:47 PM

That's the one Ed that was took by the tornado because of the faulty anchor hardware.

The magnificence of it before looks like a toy spread out on the ground that proves how powerful Mother Nature really is.

And that view you provided looking through the bridge descending to the vanishing point looks like a kaleidoscope

 

Thanks for posting EdYes  Thoroughly enjoyed!

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:49 PM

Not the first time I've seen it but I've always enjoyed the bridge built around the bridge to make up for the heavier modern-day loads.

I'm glad you posted that one too Ed.  A Marvel and there is nothing like that anywhere else.

 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:09 PM

The approach to the Fraser River bridge made me think of this, a favorite when I was very small:

https://www.structuremag.org/?p=8199

The bowstrings, more than the big arch.

Strange, but I remember them as being heavier chord section.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:16 PM

I really am enjoying all the pictures and descriptions of Bridges posted here.

Thank you for participatingYes

 

Here She is.

One on my list of favorites in Lions neck of the woods in Beastmark North Dakota.

Even the approach of the bridge is huge.  I've never been to the other side but one of these years I'm going to figure out how to get there.

The water was a little high in the spring.  The no parking sign is helpful but I don't think you can park there.  I don't leave until a train goes over the bridge you know.  The sound of the engines and the Clickity Clank of the wheels as the water amplifies itBow

Over 100 years old and still standing "Strong"! over the test of time.

I visit her every time I go to visit my Son and my Grandchildren.  Why wouldn't you?  Not quite but almost as important to me when I go over there.

 

 

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Posted by Lazers on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:34 PM

Overmod

The approach to the Fraser River bridge made me think of this, a favorite when I was very small:

https://www.structuremag.org/?p=8199

The bowstrings, more than the big arch.

Strange, but I remember them as being heavier chord section.

 

And again, Overmod - that was very interesting & enlightening. It made me wonder, after the digital era post-construction survey, just how much 'lighter' the design & construction would have been, with modern tech, knowledge & experience of R/C applied. Thanks, Paul

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:46 PM

Back in the day the bridge at New Westminster also handled vehicles.

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:54 PM

POST HOG!

I remember going over this bridge in the car as a young kid, I was terrified a train would come.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:35 PM

Now I am fascinated againStick out tongue

This is the same knuckle Selector posted earlier in the thread Brent.

The fact that both of you got to experience this and I didn't, really leaves me hanging out on that limb of not as much funTongue Tied

 

Very much Fascinated by it though! Yes

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:45 PM

BATMAN

POST HOG!

I remember going over this bridge in the car as a young kid, I was terrified a train would come.

Industrial History: CN Second Narrows Bridges over Burrard Inlet in  Vancouver, BC

 

You can be a Post-Hog anytime you wish to be one on my thread Brent!

I can only imagine when you were a kid and scared.

I ain't a kid anymore at 57 years old looking at that black and white photo of that bridge!  I would have to say, ...If given a choice, I don't want to go over that bridge eitherIndifferentTongue TiedCrying

 

 

 

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