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Jeffreys Track-side Diner - April 2020, this time in the town of Golden, British Columbia! Locked

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:59 PM

I get the generic name thing MLC.  No schooling needed here.

Gypsum Lath was the start of it all, it's different than drywall, and Gypsum brand "Sheetrock" is still considered the best, over all of the generic brands and manufacturers

Sheetrock was first coined by the tradesman that installed it.

Watch Ed's video.

Not all drywall is Sheetrock.

Mike.

 

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:31 PM

BATMAN

Think I will go unwrap the layout before the phone rings again.

Cordova Bay Station - Canadian Pacific Railway employee magazine ...

 

 

4-4-0's showing up all over the place here tonightYes

Now why does this not surprise me that Brent has a Canadian Pacific 4-4-0, ... I do believe Brent has Canadian Pacific everythingLaughLaughWink

He does look out for us though!  I do think he realized this Canadian Specific thing could get contagious.

 Image from Batman the series

Yep, that's Batman, Brent is looking out for us so we don't all catch the CP!LaughLaughLaugh

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:38 PM

Track fiddler
I do think he does realized this Canadian Specific thing could get contagious.

Guilty*!

 

 CPR_4-6-4 by Edmund, on Flickr

* Living near the "Southern Border" I was a frequent visitor to the Provinces. CN and CP were gracious hosts in my early railroading days. I have a soft spot for the Canadian railways.

 6218_Chatham-cab by Edmund, on Flickr

One of the guys I worked with called ALL insulation Rockwool. It's just what you get used to. If you really want to feel old, call sheetrock or rocklath Sackett board!

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:43 PM

So guys, where are we going to place the Diner for the month of May? If you want me to set it up then you will have to accept the fact that I am hard core Canadian so that will influence my choices.

How about Newfoundland?!? The place is beautiful! The Newfoundland Railway line was the longest 3' 6" narrow gauge railroad in North America at 906 miles. It ran from 1898 to 1988. The cars coming from the mainland on the ferries were standard gauge, so in order to save having to transfer all the goods from one boxcar to another, they simply switched out the trucks! There are epic tales of the train getting stuck in the snow for days, and too many moose encounters to count.

Anyone interested?

If anyone else wants to take over starting the Diner, or if you have another location to suggest, please speak up!

Dave

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:46 PM

gmpullman

 

 
Track fiddler
I do think he does realized this Canadian Specific thing could get contagious.

 

Guilty*!

 

 CPR_4-6-4 by Edmund, on Flickr

* Living near the "Southern Border" I was a frequent visitor to the Provinces. CN and CP were gracious hosts in my early railroading days. I have a soft spot for the Canadian railways.

 6218_Chatham-cab by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

 

 

Oh for sure Ed!

You should see me when I go to a Wild game against the Canucks at the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul.

After our national anthem and some sit down I stay on my feet always with my hand over my heart for O Canada.

My Grandfather was from Canada and so is my blood.  I stand and respect for that one just as well as mineYes  They are both mine!

 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:06 PM

We could take the Diner to Tottenham, Ontario where the South Simcoe Railway Museum is located. That is where #136 has resided for years and it is still operating during the summer months. It was rebuilt a few years ago so it still has many years of life ahead. We would only be about 40 kms north of Toronto, and there is a bunch of railroading history there too!

Dave

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:33 PM

Well, my vote could almost not be considered as anytime I hear Ontario I'm in because I live right next door.  A large portion of my life I went into Ontario to Fort Frances, beautiful Sioux Narrows and Nestor Falls.  Ontario is large, I never saw it all in its entirety.

Although we are in Canada now, we wouldn't have to move too far.  Dave is up in that neck of the woods and I like Dave!

 

I'm easy, I'll go anywhere you guys want to go as I could really use a vacation.

My vote is Ontario because it's really, really beautiful up there and wilderness does provide solitude and not a lot of people.

 

 

TF

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Posted by herrinchoker on Thursday, April 30, 2020 12:21 AM

Went to change my Avatar, ended up being a Weeble, unable to upgrade the photo I wanted to use. Has anyone else had any challanges with this proceedure,? if so, what is the resolution for this problem?? thanks, herrinchoker

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Thursday, April 30, 2020 12:55 AM

herrinchoker
if so, what is the resolution for this problem?? thanks, herrinchoker

Changing your avatar as well as your signature does not work anymore with this forum software. I remember we had been promised an updated, functioning version by the end of this month, but I doubt that we well ever see any. Our host seemingly has lost interest in having a working customer interface.

Happy times!

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Posted by herrinchoker on Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:52 AM

Oh great!!!-----Can't talk about grits, gravy, and fried chicken anymore either----

herrinchoker

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:07 AM

Tinplate Toddler
Our host seemingly has lost interest in having a working customer interface.

Hi Ulrich,

I think that's a bit harsh. I believe that they are doing their best with the resources that they have, and considering that the forums are free, we should feel blessed with what we have. Is it perfect? No. What is? Name me a piece of computer software, or hardware for that matter, that is perfect!

Quit your bitchin'!Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh

Dave

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:19 AM

Dave, I am not only talking about the forum. The shop is as hard to reach as the forum. Anyway, there are a number of model railroading forums available, which work much better, are also free and are way more interesting and entertaining as this one. As others have noted before me, this forum has lost a lot of its appeal over the years. The reason why I am still participating is more out of a habit, but lately I have come to think of it as a bad habit. If it were not for the handful of virtual friends which I can meet here, I´d consider it a waste of time!

Happy times!

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:11 AM

Tinplate Toddler
Dave, I am not only talking about the forum. The shop is as hard to reach as the forum. Anyway, there are a number of model railroading forums available, which work much better, are also free and are way more interesting and entertaining as this one. As others have noted before me, this forum has lost a lot of its appeal over the years. The reason why I am still participating is more out of a habit, but lately I have come to think of it as a bad habit. If it were not for the handful of virtual friends which I can meet here, I´d consider it a waste of time!

I'm not sure what to say Ulrich. I'm sorry if you think these forums are a waste of your time. Personally I find them to be very informative and enjoyable.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, April 30, 2020 7:03 AM

York1
I forgot and the filters were clogged with the dust. Be sure to change your filters often!

Yes! I have been changing them daily.

I need a new filter for my lungs!

gmpullman
Here's a fun look at the old gypsum lath, forerunner of sheet drywall

I could never do that. I can't even hang drywall. I need to hire that chore out to people who know what they are doing.

GMTRacing
We never had a problem with the mess and dust. Workmen leaving debris all over inside and out when they were "finished", yes. I always expected "broom clean" and sometimes had to say something.

The guys that installed the new tub left the bathroom SPOTLESS! The bare cement floor is absoltely dust free in there.

It was bad when they got there becuase I pulled the tile up, and thinset dust was everywhere. Very good. Things are moving forward.

Heartland Division CB&Q
Steve O .... Thanks for keeping the forum under control.

And another "Thank You" for the job well done. I stopped by the forums yesterday, then left. I appreciate all you do.

Track fiddler
Calling ol' Kevin calling ol' Kevin ... come in Kevin .... over Breaker breaker TF to Kevin ... do you got your ears on good buddy .... over

I had a long day yesterday. The tub and bathroom work was done. I installed the new attic ladder assembly, and I was beat.

herrinchoker
Went to change my Avatar, ended up being a Weeble,

Our moderator, TStage, also became a Weeble. Hopefully the fixes are coming.

hon30critter
I'm not sure what to say Ulrich. I'm sorry if you think these forums are a waste of your time. Personally I find them to be very informative and enjoyable.

I do too. These forums are very enjoyable and informative.

Track fiddler
I have a Crescent wrench that says Snap-on on it.

I have one of those too!

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:24 AM

Good morning, everyone.  It's another sunny, cool morning -- perfect spring day.

I think my layout town needs a bank, so I'm going to start building one today.  I have plenty of plastic, windows, etc.  I'll probably make up a paper or cardboard version first to make sure of the measurements.

I have no preference on where the diner travels tomorrow.  I've never been to Newfoundland.

Have a good April thirtieth, everyone.  

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Posted by GMTRacing on Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:28 AM

Good Morning All,

   49F and rainy today. Not much to report on the layout front except I started on some more backboard for the area behind the yard. I have a basic U with a 3' isle up the center. the back wall of the basement is two sides of the backing and one side and one end are open. I hung cheap panelling on hinges behind one long section to close it off where it opened onto the rest of the basement and have had the rest open around the yard while I figured out what to do. I had an old shower door on a slider so I fit that next to the column where the table wraps around and then fit a piece of display board painted with the generic overcast sky color. I couldn't hinge that part since it would interfere with the long panel sections so it just slides back out of the way. I tried some display board for the long bits but I can still see the ribs through the paint so I may need to break down and get some thing better. I don't see filling and sanding a 4 x 8 sheet of anything if it's avoidable. Pics when I get done. 

  I don't know what transpired yesterday but after I signed out and went home I found last night a bunch of posts seemed to be moved around along with a rocket  from Steven O. I know our host has restrictions but I've hung here since I found the diner and I think it's comfy to have the interaction. As has been noted there are other websites with fewer restrictions but I like the degree of civility offered by those same restrictions as opposed to the flame throwing that occurs "out there". I have always been able to find the answers i need on this forum and in fact if it wasn't for the patience shown me over a few weeks of struggling, I still wouldn't have a working yard. This forum can hardly be a profit center for Kalmbach and anyone in the publishing business can tell you that times are not flush. Bottom line, I will spend time here as available and not worry about it. I no longer participate in anything else trainwise and the rest of my presence online is to do with my work in racing.

   GArry, you asked about the pics from the old layout and I fear they are lost to the wilds of Photobucket along with the pics from vacations and the first couple of trips "down under" including the cab ride i got in New Zealand.  

 

Cheers, J.R.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:39 AM

GMTRacing
I don't know what transpired yesterday but after I signed out and went home I found last night a bunch of posts seemed to be moved around along with a rocket from Steven O.

I checked in yesterday, saw what was going on, and checked right back out again.

Hopefully things will be more calm today. I sure do like the diner.

-Kevin

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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:47 AM

All the oak trees in the neighborhood dropped their seeds last night.  It looks like tumbleweed in front of my home this morning and 2" of rain are in the forecast.

Twitter abslutely makes my blood boil, nothing I've ever seen on this forum even comes close to moving the needle off 0.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:48 AM

Howdy ...

Donuts are on me to thank Steve O.  He can share them with other good people in the MR staff. 

They  are Tim Horton donuts. I had many of those on many trips to Canada during my working years.  I like Canada and Canadians very much.

 

I think I read we are considering Ontario for our May location.  I approve.  I would prefer the entire province instead if just one city in Ontario.

JR... Sorry you lost your photos to Photobucket. They messed up many of us. 

Everybody:  Happy Model Railroading. 

GARRY

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:56 AM

Mornin' folks!

I went and did my weekly grocery shopping at 6am this morning.  The "Friendly" market in Waterloo where I shop has hours for seniors and other "impaired" folks two days a week from 6am to 8am.  Looks like Thursday may be the best for me as it was almost completely empty when I was there.  Tuesdays are a lot more folks in there shopping.

SeeYou190
GMTRacing
I don't know what transpired yesterday but after I signed out and went home I found last night a bunch of posts seemed to be moved around along with a rocket from Steven O.

Hopefully things will be more calm today. I sure do like the diner.

-Kevin

Yep!  I was in the diner when some flamable, against the "rules" stuff was posted.  I was wondering how long before Vinnie got up and cleaned house.  Personally I have been to a few of the other sites and like this one much, much more.  If I want to fight with people, I could just go back to teaching and deal with some less than adult adults...  (Some teachers and , of course, certain administrators, parents, etc.).

I have been trying to get the next NMRA Division "Extra" newletter finished and to the website.  Seems the easier it appears the more time I spend to make changes to please other "humans!" LOL  It will contain a short article from a very well known MR Author (whose name I will not mention), who has around 1,000 articles published.  A couple other people seem to want to rewrite his article for him!  Several of the changes wanted, I know that the author was totally correct in his wording, but.......  I have refused to make some of the suggested changes.  We shall see what we shall see, I guess.  I'll be sending what, I hope, will be the final copy to them in a bit.  I should say that most of the changes I am requested to make in articles are absolutely correct and are often just a screwup that I make (in cut & paste) and typos.

Hope everyone has a great day and do stay safe out there!

15

73

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, April 30, 2020 9:05 AM

howmus
(Some teachers and , of course, certain administrators, parents, etc.).

I'm glad you included the word "certain" in front of "administrators"!

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Thursday, April 30, 2020 9:26 AM

Mike, I knew you needed no schooling. I was just noting that most people call drywall sheetrock, even when it isn't.

Anyway, good morning all. Not much going on here today,  the weather is supposed to be good today. Things are changing at work for the good. 

Making progess getting things repaired and ready to leave basement. 1937 Philco working and about to be reassembled. 1930 Atwater Kent, waiting on parts. I fixed my $10 Goodwill record player so I can have tunes in the basement again. I play lots of 78s and this machines does that great. 

I prob will need to mow again tomorrow since we have had all this rain the past few days. I don't mind mowing, it is kind of a therapy. 

 

Kevin, glad it is you and not me doing all that reno. 

 

Well back to work, we are about to decomission our (cv) clinic. 

 

Garry show some pictures of layout progess.

 

Ontairio is fine with me. 

 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Thursday, April 30, 2020 9:33 AM

So did we get dome of those rectangular raisin donuts too from TH? I always get one of those when we go.

   Ontario would be fine for next month. We could see if Trolley Rob is still around and see if he could do a virtual tour of the Radial Museum (I'm sure i have mangled that) in Ontario. 

John - there are always certain people involved in our dealings. I'm sure when I was on the school board I was counted as one of themWink.    Back to it.   J.R.

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, April 30, 2020 9:38 AM

York1
I'm glad you included the word "certain" in front of "administrators"!

Oh yes!  I worked for and with some absolutely great Principals and Superintendents during my teaching carreer.  Most were excellent, but there were a few....  I guess I can use the words, nasty idiots?! as well.

Those that worked with you and considered that we were a team for the good of our students I liked.  Those that thought all other school employees were just peons for them to rule...  Not so much.  Several of my long term close friends even today belong to the first bunch! Wink

Oh,  I might add that some School Board members saved my neck (career) on more than one occasion when I was not on good terms with a particulaly nasty Superintendent...  Several just happened to be parents of some of my Boy Scouts.Whistling  Their sons also earned Eagle (and I do Mean Earned!) way back when....  I was told about what happened in "Executive Session" after I was accused of something by the Super......  Made me smile and chuckle a bit, it did!

73

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Posted by Water Level Route on Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:41 AM

howmus
I worked for and with some absolutely great Principals and Superintendents during my teaching carreer.  Most were excellent, but there were a few....  I guess I can use the words, nasty idiots?! as well.

It's incredible the difference a superintendant makes.  I was ready to get a lawyer due to one of my wife's recent supers, but she wouldn't unhook my chain.  The new one is worlds better.  It's no small thing what a difference having a boss that supports their people as opposed to acting like they hate their people can make.  Oh, and behaves within the law is beneficial too!

Enough of that.  Sorry Vinnie.

Today is my Friday, thank goodness.  How is it I can be so ready for retirement with 20 years to go?! Laugh

Cheers guys,

Mike

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Posted by CNCharlie on Thursday, April 30, 2020 12:22 PM

Good Morning, for the next 2 minutes,

I had never heard of the word sheetrock until a few years ago when talking to my friend in Minnesota. Up here we call the stuff gyprock. My house has stonelathe covered in plaster. The 2 add up to about an inch thick. Stonelathe is a very heavy type of wall board. Makes for a quiet house though.

Very warm today. Supposed to hit 65F!  Will take the cover off the AC. That will result in a temp reversal for sure. Hope to get some lawn raking done. We are weeks away from any thoughts of mowing.

The Juncos have departed but we have a few Song Sparrows that do have a nice song.

Dave, Ontario is fine with me. Long ago I lived in Barrie, London and Sarnia plus a a few years in Rainy River which is little town in NW Ont. Rainy River was a CN division point and the home to 4008, a 2-10-2 on display there since 1960. 

Time to do something,

CN Charlie

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:09 PM

CNCharlie
Up here we call the stuff gyprock

Gyprock is an Australian product, but different areas of the country call things by different names.

CNCharlie
My gouse has stonelathe covered in plaster.

Stone lath is a panel that's used as a backer to thin set, or manufactured brick and stone, or plaster and stucco finish.  I use a mesh panel that is very similar when I veneer the face of a "zero clearance" type refab fireplace, with thin set stone, or brick panels.

Different locations = different names.

I hope every one East survived the big drenching that left the midwest area.  We were about 2" of rain short for the month, but very quickly caught up.

There was a member in here, for awhile, from Newfoundland, I think his name was something like "Oldschoolscratchbuild", something like that.  He did things "different".

Wherever the diner gets parked, is fine with me.

I see every 3rd stool doesn't have a red tape X on it.  Must be for social distancing.

Sales of red tape must have sky rocketed across the world!

Mike.

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Posted by up831 on Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:45 PM

Hi Guys,

From some between the lines comments from our hosts several posts back, I'm getting a feeling that Kalmbach management may (emphasis MAY) be looking at the forums to evaluate whether the company would even want to support them anymore.  If so, they would be looking at the trade off of benefit to the hobby (read resultant sales) as opposed to cost of maintaining these forums.  IF we want the priveledge of being able to exchange information and ideas here, which I for one do enjoy, it would be in our interests to appreciate them.  As someone once said, if you don't like it here, someone will be listening.  For what it's worth.

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:53 PM

Well said Jim, I would never complain about anything that is free and could not imagine doing so. I have had issues logging on lately and still do but I don't waste my time with it, if I can't log on with coffee in hand I click on one of the Victoria Secret pop-ups instead.Mischief

I really appreciate being able to pop in here when this old man needs to sit down for a rest. Also thank you Steven Otte for keeping us on the straight and narrow.

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:57 PM

up831
IF we want the priveledge of being able to exchange information and ideas here, which I for one do enjoy, it would be in our interests to appreciate them.

 

I've only been a subscriber to the magazine for about three years and on this forum for two years.

I have enjoyed it, and I like the fact that I have met people online who share my hobby.

I know that if some of us talked in person, we'd probably find things we don't like about each other.

That's why I appreciate Steven O. stopping certain topics.  It keeps us focused on what we have in common.  We have a group from different countries, political parties, ages, religious or non-religious, education levels, and economic status.  With all that, it's a group that we can call friends.

Another thread I enjoy is the Weekend Photos.  There are some super-talented modelers there, and there are some like me.  Everyone is encouraging and helpful.  You don't find that in too many other places.

 

York1 John       

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