maxman riogrande5761 for boards that are at an angle, I lay it over the two pieces that it will attached to and draw a pencil line underneath along the edge of the board below! Then I put it on the mitre saw and line up the laser line with it and cut. I have a little trouble visualizing this.
riogrande5761 for boards that are at an angle, I lay it over the two pieces that it will attached to and draw a pencil line underneath along the edge of the board below! Then I put it on the mitre saw and line up the laser line with it and cut.
I have a little trouble visualizing this.
Look at the top photo in the post above with the poll and there is a loose piece of 1x4 sitting on top of the benchwork to the right. Now just imagine gently running a pencil on the underside against the board underneath on both ends. Then turn the board over and cut the board on that line. It will fit in place and be solid after you drive two 2 1/2 inch wood screw in tight at each end (with countersink and pilot hole first of course).
Are you turning the blade head so the blade lines up with your mark? If so I'd guess that the board is then positioned so that the narrow side is up and the flat side is against the fence. If that's all correct, then why didn't I think of that? Thanks
If that's all correct, then why didn't I think of that?
Thanks
The compound mitre saw can be rotated off 90 degree's in either direction and you can line the laser up with the pencil line and then lock it down. The cut the board while verticle against the back stop. After cut it will fit in place.
If you look at the angled 1x4's in the benchwork, that's how all of them were fit and cut.
In this photo, there is a board laid down at an angle that was also marked and cut after the picture was taken:
Here is another angle of the same secction; the yard stick is down so I could measure to make sure it's fitting in the room per the scale drawing. If I measured the room accurately and drew the layout correctly, it should measure out in real life very close to the drawing. Pretty much it does:
From this angle you can see that section is together and up on legs now:
The hard angle cuts to make are the very shallow angle cuts; the mitre saw can't rotate far enough to get a shallow cut while against the fense/backstop. So I have to hold the board carefully at the right angle, vertical, and cut on the line. An example is the angled board in the picture below on the lower right side:
Since the floor isn't perfectly flat, I have to set the framing up on small blocks of wood to get the corner joints to line up flush. When I did the last layout, I used a corner framing jig, but I've find if I hold a square piece of wood against the joint while drilling the pilot holes, I can get it the corners together flush and very close to 90 degree.
The rubber mats are for me knees while on the floor drilling counter-sinks and pilot holes and driving wood screws in at joints.
All the framing assembly I have to do on the floor on my knees since I don't have a big flat table or bench. Well, good news is there is only two more sections to go and hopefully those will be finished this weekend. Then all the primary benchwork will be up. There are shelves that the main yard will go above staging along the walls on one side and there is a branchline that will be hanging below the benchwork along the outer edge of part, but that's the extent of there being 2 levels. I've read a lot of people building 2 or more levels and later saying they prefer single level. Two levels is a bit beyond my comfort level so I'm doing a partial. (helix will be on one end and and nolix the rest to bring trains from the bottom back to the top).
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riogrande5761for boards that are at an angle, I lay it over the two pieces that it will attached to and draw a pencil line underneath along the edge of the board below! Then I put it on the mitre saw and line up the laser line with it and cut.
I have a little trouble visualizing this. I assume that you are not making a 90 degree cut when the piece is lined up on the saw. Are you turning the blade head so the blade lines up with your mark? If so I'd guess that the board is then positioned so that the narrow side is up and the flat side is against the fence.
Track fiddler Looks like some Fine Carpentry skills as well Rio. I see those tight 45 joints. A lot of times that's how I do it too. I see the one behind the pole. At least I think that's what you're doing, sneaking the pen or pencil underneath the piece on top before you make the cut so it fits just right? I have to envy you, I wish I had that kind of room! TF
Looks like some Fine Carpentry skills as well Rio. I see those tight 45 joints. A lot of times that's how I do it too. I see the one behind the pole.
At least I think that's what you're doing, sneaking the pen or pencil underneath the piece on top before you make the cut so it fits just right?
I have to envy you, I wish I had that kind of room!
TF
The poll has been enclosed in that section - the track will run around it on the outside.
Yes, You guessed it. for boards that are at an angle, I lay it over the two pieces that it will attached to and draw a pencil line underneath along the edge of the board below! Then I put it on the mitre saw and line up the laser line with it and cut. Mostly it works pretty well.
I do with the room was wider so I could have more generous curves, aisle and benchwork but I guess it's all relative. We can never have enough but it was hard to find a house we could afford in this area with a decent open basement. The train area room is about 33' long but 15' wide along part of it and widens a bit more near the support pole. I squeezed in as much running as I could.
My wife and I are a little sad this weekend. We were supposed to be visiting grandchildren in Texas for Easter. Not sure when we will get there.
York1 John
mbinsewi You had it coming! If you had any "cement finisher" in you, you'd have a stash of pails of all sizes, from grout buckets to the 7 gallon size.
You had it coming! If you had any "cement finisher" in you, you'd have a stash of pails of all sizes, from grout buckets to the 7 gallon size.
Yes I had it comming I knew what I was doing when I was doing it but for some reason I still proceeded and dumped her yarn You know when you grit your teeth and get that cringe look on your face because you know you're doing something wrong.
But my supplies are way in the back of the parking lot in my trailer and it's cold out today. I should have just put my jacket on and made the better decision. Would have been much easier than what I had to go through later
P.S. Kevin, sorry to hear about the Ritz, that sucks!
I've seen RHPS so many timnes - it's another one of those I cna quote quite a bit of. One of those times, it was the movie for the wekeend in college. They weren't dumb there though - they covered the floor of the auditorium used for movies with heavy plastic.
I need some masonite to continue my benchwork - I guess I will have to hit Lowes tomorrow. This year, they are closing Sunday for Easter.
--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
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richhotrainYep, I am thinking that even maxman might like it.
I Don't Think So, Tim.
Quoting from a Facebook post:
"I refused to sit in my normal seat at work on lunch break because somebody brought in leftover meatloaf. Its nasty enough when its fresh. Why make us suffer with the regurgitation of your refrigerator."
So let's end the meatloaf discussion.
We can talk about something else I dislike. Fruit cake. I believe that they carry the virus. At last count there were only 752 fruit cakes in the USA, yet everyone has or had one in their home. We should practice social distancing from them.
I know I'm doing my part.
[okay, now you can all comment on who is or is not a fruitcake, waka waka]
rrebellWas never really into music much, that being said I did see Rocky Horror Picture Show in a theater a few time when they could still flik their Bic's so I got the full effect.
How has this virus effected me...
The Ritz Theater, in Ybor CIty, Florida, has shown The Rocky Horror Picture Show at least eight times a year for as long as I can remember. Complete experience with Virgin Sacrifice, Bic Flicking, Toast Tossing, "Great Scott" Toilet Paper, Newspapers, Boquets, and Squirt Guns.
It is rumoured that The Ritz, and Ybor City, will be changing a lot after the pandemic is over. Unless Social Distancing ends quickly, that entire scene could be gone forever. That might be the end to RHPS in Florida.
What will I do with my Eddie "Baby" vest?
riogrande5761Way back when dinosaurs roamed the earth when I was about 18 or so I got dragged off to a movie I'd never seen before. People had brought lighters, umbrella's, and a few other things and I got traumatized or "treated" to the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Were you sacrificed before the show?
I first saw Rocky Horror Picture Show when I was 10 years old in Gainesville, Florida in the Reitz Student Union Theater at the University of Florida, and I was instantly hooked. I knew this was what my life was about.
I went to it almost every week at a small theater on NW 13th Street after that.
When I was 13 we moved to Slaughter, Louisiana, and I saw it a few times with the crowd from Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge. This was no where near as much fun a seeing it in Gainesville.
At 14 we moved to Cape Coral, Florida, and there was a theater in Fort Myers that showed it every week, but I could not get there. At 15 I bought a motorcycle, and I was back in!
At 17 I went to college in Nashville, and there I had the best times at Rocky Horror nights. By this time it was a complete cult thing at its peak. It was a blast.
At 20 I was married with two children, so Rocky Horror became less frequent, but I still go at least four times a year. Sometimes I still dress as Eddie and carry a saxophone in with me. Step... step... step... KICK!
You should have embraced it. I have gone with all my daughters, many of their friends, and probably every member of my family. My wife even goes, but refuses any par-ti-sip................. ATION!
I never did like it steady, you know I was a no good kid.
Don't dream it... Be it.
Who puts a billboard in a Cemetary?
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Track fiddler I dumped her 1 gallon yarn bucket to use it to mix some vinyl patch upstairs for another floor repair and I trashed it. Boy did she let me have it.
I had to thin out my selection, ran out of room, and I was getting snide remarks from the wife, until, of course SHE needed a pail, then it was different.
Nice progress on the bench work Jim . Nice looking job on the room!
Mike.
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Looks like some Fine Carpentry skills as well Rio. I see those tight 45 joints. A lot of times that's how I do it too, I see the one behind the pole.
Track fiddler You're modeling techniques set you apart Rio. You definitely have a unique style in your craftsmanship and I think it's pretty cool I remember that River too, you achieved depth. Nice! TF
You're modeling techniques set you apart Rio. You definitely have a unique style in your craftsmanship and I think it's pretty cool
I remember that River too, you achieved depth. Nice!
The "raster scanning" with cardboard strips and hot glue was kind of fun, but I went a little nutty trying to create landforms in that way vs. just a general hill and do landforms by other means. I think I may try it again on the next layout.
In the mean time, benchwork is keeping me busy:
Post Hog.
The river sounds interesting rrebell. I got tired of making wooden bents so I switched gears back to foam and pen structures for a while.
Virus affecting me front.
Judy seems to get a little edgey at times. I dumped her 1 gallon yarn bucket to use it to mix some vinyl patch upstairs for another floor repair and I trashed it. Boy did she let me have it.
There's a half eaten gallon of ice cream in the freezer. I told her I'll just eat more ice cream and you'll have your bucket back in no time. It took her a while but I think she's okay now.
P.S. Sorry to hear about your extended family vacation plans got messed up from the pandemic rrebell.
rrebell Was never really into music much, that being said I did see Rocky Horror Picture Show in a theater a few time when they could still flik their Bic's so I got the full effect.
Was never really into music much, that being said I did see Rocky Horror Picture Show in a theater a few time when they could still flik their Bic's so I got the full effect.
Way back when dinosaurs roamed the earth when I was about 18 or so I got dragged off to a movie I'd never seen before. People had brought lighters, umbrella's, and a few other things and I got traumatized or "treated" to the Rocky Horror Picture Show. They all got out their props at the appropriate times or yelled things like "What is Rod Stewarts favorite high protein drink" or other things. It was an "experience" I'll never forget.
rrebell Now on to train stuff. I put in a masonite river yesterday, a bit of a task as I had to undercut the foam to slide it in and not just a little, about 3" on one side. Made a mess (i use the beaded foam) but was quickly cleaned up. Need some bracing under it and still have a board so will do that today.
Now on to train stuff. I put in a masonite river yesterday, a bit of a task as I had to undercut the foam to slide it in and not just a little, about 3" on one side. Made a mess (i use the beaded foam) but was quickly cleaned up. Need some bracing under it and still have a board so will do that today.
I found Luan worked pretty well for a river bottom - it's pretty ridged. I guess Masonite may need more support to stay ridged thoughout but could work.
Per Rob Spanglers method, I skimmed it with drywall mud and sanded it smooth. Then after filling in the river banks and plastering it, painted a river bottom on it with acrylics in shades that suggested depth where scoured or shallows in the inside. Colors used were Medium Cadmium Yellow, Black and Tan, mixed and blended.
This not leaving the house is starting to get to me essecially as a vaction was planned to start tomarrow with extended family, so in a bit of a funk right now.
Yeah, it can be easy to get stir crazy. I am teleworking 7 out of 10 work days and in the other 3. Very few in the office and taking precautions - there are cleaning crews hearded around the office like cats sterilizing all the surfaces and we have lots of hand sanitizer, clorox wipes and are using masks now.
At home when teleworking, I have to get up regularly to stretch legs and when done, get out side gardening, walking, mowing the lawn etc. We've had some very nice weather past couple weeks although a cold front has come through yesterday and today so cool and windy. Should warm back up a bit tomorrow. Freeze warning tonight so will cover up the tomato plants.
Now on to train stuff. I put in a masonite river yesterday, a bit of a task as I had to undercut the foam to slide it in and not just a little, about 3" on one side. Made a mess (i use the beaded foam) but was quickly cleaned up. Need some bracing under it and still have a board so will do that today. This not leaving the house is starting to get to me essecially as a vaction was planned to start tomarrow with extended family, so in a bit of a funk right now.
Meat Loaf eating meatloaf - that's some serious Inception stuff there.
Clearly I am not crazy, because I like that album. (guess we can't say the name here)
As for meat loaf the food, my wife makes a nice one, we had one last week.
As for Meat Loaf the singer, I have all of those records.........
Sheldon
Back off topic, here is Meatloaf eating meatloaf on Leno. If your time is short, skip ahead to the 2:40 mark. Hopefully, someone more learned than I can replace the link with a live video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHPVGLlmyLM
Rich
hon30critter richhotrain Back on topic, a meat loaf train from a 1950s cookbook authored by Lea and Perrins. Rich, That is hilarious! I love the various car loads. I'd bet that the kids would go for it big time! Dave
richhotrain Back on topic, a meat loaf train from a 1950s cookbook authored by Lea and Perrins.
Rich,
That is hilarious! I love the various car loads. I'd bet that the kids would go for it big time!
Dave
richhotrainBack on topic, a meat loaf train from a 1950s cookbook authored by Lea and Perrins.
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Back on topic, a meat loaf train from a 1950s cookbook authored by Lea and Perrins.
Bon Appetit!
rrinkerHow did you get into that?
Simply being at the right place at the right time.
I have been a huge Meat Loaf fan since he played Eddie in The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
This video was shot in 1982, Meat Loaf had flamed out with Jim Steinman, and "Renegade Angel" (Bat Out Of Hell 2) was not released. Instead, Jim Steinman recorded it himself and released it as "Bad For Good", which is an album everyone simply must have.
I love that album cover art by Richard Corben.
Cher was a Has-Been in 1982. It would be 5 years before she had another successful single. It was 3 years after "Take Me Home", and her next previous top 10 hit was five years before that.
Meat Loaf's album "Dead Ringer", which was made without Jim Steinman as primary producer or playing piano, would not even go gold in the USA. Jim Steinman did write the songs and perform the spoken word segment for "Nocturnal Pleasure." The first single "I'm Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us" did not break the top 40, and "Dead Ringer For Love" would not even go into the top 100.
The cover of Dead Ringer was illustrated by Bernie Wrightson, and is classic.
A lot of people thought "Dead Ringer For Love" would be the end of both Meat Loaf's and Cher's careers. Of course, it was not.
Anyhow, I had the album "Dead Ringer", and I loved it. It is still one of my favorites. I heard they were shooting the video for the song, and I just had to be in it.
I think I was selected entirely on enthusiasm! I already knew the words, and I was a real fan.
I am only in the shot for about twenty seconds total, and I pretty much just flop my head back and forth like an idiot.
I got to meet Meat Loaf and Cher. When I ran into Meat Loaf about 15 years later and told him I was in the video, he did not remember me. I don't know why he would have.
When MTV became very popular a couple years later, I told all my High School classmates I was in a video. No one believed me. MTV never played the video by this time, and I was labled a liar. Where was YouTube in 1984?
Anyway, it was very low budget, shot in just a couple of hours, and no one was taking it too seriously. It was a lot of fun and an entertaining footnote in my life, and I made $50.00 and got to keep the T-shirt.
BigDaddyOff,
Henry,
I nearly choked when I saw your statement but I quickly realized what you meant!
mbinsewi BigDaddy My brother in law is a psychologist who has been laid. So, whats his secret? Any tips? Mike.
BigDaddy My brother in law is a psychologist who has been laid.
So, whats his secret? Any tips?
Off, my usual typo is to leave the r off of your or to sway their and there, even though I know the difference.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
BigDaddyMy brother in law is a psychologist who has been laid.
I did really over do it like twice, both accidentily. First when I was learning bartending (you were to drink your mistakes) and the second time I was in a game of 15 aces, felt fine btill I stood up, LOL.
Ah remember the loosers that used to frequent our bar, nice people but they drank away their extra money all the time back then they would ussually by drinks for others or a round for the house.
Liquor stores are open here in Maryland. I had to look it up to be sure, not someplace I go......
Liquor stores are all private businesses in Maryland, regulated but not run by the state.
But general grocery stores are not allowed to get a license to sell liquor or beer/wine.
My grandfather and uncle were in the bar and restaurant business when I was a child/teen. Beer flowed pretty freely at family parties, etc. My parents however were only very occasional social drinkers.
I too was only an occasional social drinker, then my ex decided she wanted a "party" life after 15 years and three kids. Her drinking is on the short list of reasons why she is the ex wife.....
I decided to set a specific example for my three children and two step children. I have not had a drink in 25 years, not that I ever cared much about it one way or another before.
Once you watch it destroy a few lives you think twice even if you don't have a problem with it yourself.