drgwcsOk should I spell it out or give more clues......?
I am fine with you spelling it out.
I have read the issue twice and cannot find anything.
I am sad.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
drgwcs Ok should I spell it out or give more clues......? It is someting to Howell about but I will believe it the Day that is done.
Ok should I spell it out or give more clues......? It is someting to Howell about but I will believe it the Day that is done.
The only thing that makes it possibly a fake article is, why would a California museum want East Coast equipment? I've found enough pictures to see they do have HO scale models on display, but they are UP and SF locos and rolling stock. Kind of like how the Railroad Museum of PA doesn't have West Coast stuff.
But in the article, he says it's just a display in the mezzanine of the musuem (which does exist and is open) sponsored by the NMRA - so not a dedicated NMRA musuem of any sort.
--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
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I can't find anything of the April fools anywhere...
If anyone is quite certain they know what it is or they have inside information, I woud greatly enjoy a PM.
Thanks!
I'm beginning to realize that Windows 10 and sound decoders have a lot in common. There are so many things you have to change in order to get them to work the way you want.
chutton01 rrinker I know which one you mean. I was thinking, this can't be real. Then I went to the URL - hmm, either someone went to WAY too much effort, or it really is a legit product. I'd have to agree that K.I.S.S. Method seems to exist as a real company, however their offerings on the website seem mostly to be track planning & laying templates, and foam cradles. No mention of bags of "scrap" metal for sale.Could this be a mutli-company conspiracy? Eh, probably not.
rrinker I know which one you mean. I was thinking, this can't be real. Then I went to the URL - hmm, either someone went to WAY too much effort, or it really is a legit product.
I'd have to agree that K.I.S.S. Method seems to exist as a real company, however their offerings on the website seem mostly to be track planning & laying templates, and foam cradles. No mention of bags of "scrap" metal for sale.Could this be a mutli-company conspiracy? Eh, probably not.
dknelson drgwcs Ok should I spell it out or give more clues......? It is someting to Howell about but I will believe it the Day that is done. Oh! the much-promised, never delivered Howell Day Museum originally to be at NMRA headquarters in Tennessee and then moved to California but on-hold for a very long time, after seemingly endless announcements by the NMRA about how close it was to clinching the deal. Tony Koester's Trains of Thought talks about his CTC machine and some AM rolling stock being donations and says the Museum (he does not use the Howell Day name) "should be opening about the time you read this." Then later in his column Tony says C&O 2-6-6-2 No. 1309 "should now be back in service on the Western Maryland Scenic Railway" which if you read Trains magazine, or visit Trains's part of this website, you know if far from being the case unless someone comes up with lots of money. So the joke, if this is the joke, is how Tony Koester uses the word "now" and the phrase "about the time you read this." But that would make him among the critics of the NMRA and its long-delayed Howell Day Museum and those folks are, shall we say, not fans of Charlie Getz the ex President of the NMRA. And when I say "critics" I mean there has been some slanderous stuff said. I do not believe Tony is among that crowd. And I can't see Kalmbach or MR getting into that controversy either, not even for a joke. Dave Nelson
That was what I was suggesting is that the April's fool joke is that it will be open by the time we read this... (Thus the Howell Day Clue) I don't think it is as much as a criticism but timing. I really wish it to open although I suspect I would never get to see it (I'm on the other side of the country) There is absolutely no indication on either website. It seems like this has been so long coming- and I have always wondered why. Could not volunteers begin to set up the layouts? That is what happened with the UC&N and it was operational in relatively short order in the museum in Cheyenne WY. I also wonder on the cost too- The NMRA has on the website $1,00,000, (Yes that is how they put it) Is it 100K or 1M? Either way it seems as if it could be built gradually or at less cost. The layouts are already in existence.
Did a little more research- Here is a wayback machine copy of the NMRA page on the museum June 3 2003- https://web.archive.org/web/20030603200727/http://www.nmra.org:80/howellday/ Has it really been seventeen years?
Is Trains Of Thought really the April Fools joke? I have a hard time with that. Tony Koester has never been noted for a sense of humor that I can recall. I find it very plausible the CTC machine could be in California with a few pieces of MIDLAND ROAD equipment.
By the way, there is a STRATTON AND GILLETTE refrigerated boxcar already in the California State Railroad Museum.
The sentence about the articulated steamer would require too much real world knowledge to be an effectice (ha ha knee slapper) joke.
I'll give up on the KISS thing. Although the web site seems like a first attempt by a 6th grade E commerce course, it is lagit.
They don't mention the bags of metal there, but they are top billing on their FB page.
I thought using actual metal shavings for gons of scrap seemed a bit "out there", as we know what will happen if any of it spills.
Other forum references back to 2006 talk about their track planning aids.
I never did any "deep" reading into what some of you mention about Tony K or a museum?
Mike.
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The one I thought was maybe not real until I checked the layout was the instant layout one, not KISS Method, I've known of them for years. Turns out those layout in a box kits are real,a nd the company isn't far from me.
Building a museum-like structure and setting it up isn't going to happen for a mere $1 million no matter how cheap the land is. If they were going to use existing available space in an already existing building - then no way should it take $1 million to curate some exhibits and get them set up. But if the location is not currently open to the public, getting it up to fire codes and ADA codes for true public access won't be cheap.
Bruce Chubb seems to be going a different direction - that project he's involved with to house not only the Sunset Valley but several other layouts in multiple scales seems WAY ambitious, but it would be great if they can pull it off.
mbinsewiI thought using actual metal shavings for gons of scrap seemed a bit "out there", as we know what will happen if any of it spills
chutton01I think this is a more common technique than you think (of course, the metal 'scrap' load is supposed to be securely glued/cemented down to prevent just such an issue) - heck, even Pelle Soeborg in one of his detailing books describes how he cut up metal pot scrubbing pads to produce metal 'scrap' loads.
Yea, I suppose some do it, as long as it's secured. I don't follow Pelle, or have any of his books.
MAYBE on April 1st, the "new and improved" forum will be ready to roll out! Maybe? Not that it's an April Fools joke, unless........they anounce it, and then follow it with "April Fools!!!
I guess we are all ready for the disclosure. I hope it's not some deep hidden thing in any of the topics mentioned......I don't read the mag. word for word, unless it's something I'm interested in. Most articles, I sorta scim through, and decide if I want to read it word for word.
Waiting!!!
mbinsewiI don't read the mag. word for word, unless it's something I'm interested in. Most articles, I sorta scim through, and decide if I want to read it word for word.
I've read this month's issue more than I've read the past six months combined.
York1 John
Come on Dana, give it up.
I haven't torn through an issue like this since I was 12 and model railroading was new to me.
Phil, CEO, Eastern Sierra Pacific Railroad. We know where you are going, before you do!
Sierra ManCome on Dana, give it up.
Dana, Yeah, you got us it seems. We cannot find the April Fool joke.
You can please give it up now.
I think I have found it! Page 37?
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
Tinplate ToddlerI think I have found it! Page 37?
We've discussed page 37 quite a bit Ulrich, what did you see? Or are you "pullin' our caboose"?
mbinsewi Tinplate Toddler I think I have found it! Page 37? We've discussed page 37 quite a bit Ulrich, what did you see? Or are you "pullin' our caboose"? Mike.
Tinplate Toddler I think I have found it! Page 37?
I wouldn´t dare to, Mike
I just can´t figure that a railroad would use - shall I say it? - a bridge as an overhead unleader.
I posted a link earlier to the railroad, and a track plan of the prototype that was in an issue of MR. I think it was Sept. 1974. I'd have to go back to the link and check myself, but it's lagit. The first section of the bridge, there is a stub end road under for unloading the salt.
The actual street goes through, next to the stub end road.
When you look closely at the picture on Page 37, you can see a temporary wall that was built, right behind the first trestle support.
The Narragansett Pier RR is totally legit. Not only did MR cover it completely, about that same timeframe, mid-70's, Railroad Modeler magazine ALSO covered it in depth (and it wasn't the same article getting published in two different magazines).
I have both of them - somewhere along the line, my Dad picked up a couple of random Railroad Modelers back then. One of those also has the outdoor N scale (yes, you read that right) layout, and a kitbashing article making the classic Superior Bakery into a combination carbarn/station/office for a traction company. It wasn't until MUCH later I found that MR also did an article on the NPRR, at the same time.
I'm beginning to think the only April Fools are are us posting here, trying to find that which isn't there.
rrinker I'm beginning to think the only April Fools are are us posting here, trying to find that which isn't there.
I've been thinking the same. Jokes on us!
The only thing that I have noticed is on page 21. The photo description refers the the signal in front of the station as semaphore, when in actuality the signal is a train order signal, and has nothing to do with track occupancy detection.
Editorial mistake at best.
MR April Fools articles have traditionally been somewhat out there ALMOST plausible - like the NoTrack standard of modeling modern rails to trails, or subway modeling. Or really out there, like pressurizng your basement!
rrinker The Narragansett Pier RR is totally legit. Not only did MR cover it completely, about that same timeframe, mid-70's, Railroad Modeler magazine ALSO covered it in depth (and it wasn't the same article getting published in two different magazines). I have both of them - somewhere along the line, my Dad picked up a couple of random Railroad Modelers back then. One of those also has the outdoor N scale (yes, you read that right) layout, and a kitbashing article making the classic Superior Bakery into a combination carbarn/station/office for a traction company. It wasn't until MUCH later I found that MR also did an article on the NPRR, at the same time. I'm beginning to think the only April Fools are are us posting here, trying to find that which isn't there. --Randy
Found the article- September 1974 MR. The unloading on the trestle is mentioned in the text as well as prototype and model track plans. I believe the lead photo in the article may be of it- but was different than in the April issue and is not captioned as such (nor is it easy to tell from the photo) Soooo one more eliminated. Are they trying to make our eyeballs explode????
mbinsewi rrinker I'm beginning to think the only April Fools are are us posting here, trying to find that which isn't there. I've been thinking the same. Jokes on us! Mike.
SeeYou190Is Trains Of Thought really the April Fools joke? I have a hard time with that. Tony Koester has never been noted for a sense of humor that I can recall.
IIRC wasn't the April Fool's joke a couple years ago Tony writing a column saying he'd given up on HO, and was going to rebuild his Nickel Plate Road as a hi-rail (1:48 scale, O gauge using three-rail track) layout?
Anyway, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who can't find the joke - if there is one?
BTW since there were comments in this thread about (mis)pronouncing "Kato"...note that Marklin is correctly pronounced "Mare-clean"; not like the names "Mark" and "Lynn" stuck together.
Speaking of O gauge, do you say "Line-ull" or "Lye-a-nell"??
xboxtravis7992 mbinsewi rrinker I'm beginning to think the only April Fools are are us posting here, trying to find that which isn't there. I've been thinking the same. Jokes on us! Mike. 2020 the year Model Railroader embraced ironic humor and anti-humor, and the joke was on the reader the whole time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-humor
2020 the year Model Railroader embraced ironic humor and anti-humor, and the joke was on the reader the whole time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-humor
I've about reached the same conclusion. One would think that if there were some sort of joke Mr. Steven O'Otte would have chimed in with some pity comments such as "close, but no cigar", "look a little harder", "you're way off track", or you're barking up the wrong tie" by now.
maxmanI've about reached the same conclusion.
I have to agree! I have searched the issue hi and lo and was not able to find any of the MR typical April Fools in this issue - other than the one holding the copy in his hands.
Tinplate Toddler maxman I've about reached the same conclusion. I have to agree! I have searched the issue hi and lo and was not able to find any of the MR typical April Fools in this issue - other than the one holding the copy in his hands.
maxman I've about reached the same conclusion.
I have to agree this is a tough one- I still think it is the "open about the time you read this" of the NMRA Model Railroading Museum.