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Posted by Bigjim7 on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 7:57 AM
Ho 12X21 FT room around the wall U shape' point to point. Switching layout I keep maybe 3 locos on the layout. I go slow 10 to 15mph Modern days theme Main industry are Ethanol plant ' coal' light manufacturer's. NCE controlled
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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, May 20, 2019 6:12 PM

restorator
I think it would also be break down how many layouts are only in the designing phase, ones that are only a partial percentage bulit, and ones that are completed

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How would we qualify my final layout? It is fully planned. I have built a full size model of the layout and built a test section to verify concept and material. I have also assembled and painted about 75% of the freight car and locomotive roster.

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However, the room for the layout is not done, so not one twig of actual construction has happened yet.

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Where am I?

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Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Monday, May 20, 2019 6:02 PM

Harrison

 

 
restorator

 

 
BNSF UP and others modeler

I have an idea. There is a lot of clear, simple information here that could be compiled into graphs, just for funsies. If that is of interest, I'll compile everyone's information into graphs and post them here.

 

 

 
I think that would be very interesting to see in graphs and such. I think it would also be break down how many layouts are only in the designing phase, ones that are only a partial percentage bulit, and ones that are completed (or "almost" complete as one is never really "done" with a layout as things do get revised and changed after being accomplished!) Alos how many people are serious collectors even without an actual layout. I do both as I have and will definately continue to buy items I like even if they may never see actual use on the tracks.
 
Lets keep this going. This info could be very useful to the hobby media and manufacturers. 
 

 

 

I agree, graphs would be cool to see. Maybe we could calculate the average ratio of locos to cars too?

 

Ok. I'll see what I can do. I might have to wait for everyone to finish posting on the thread first though...

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Posted by BuchananBucks on Monday, May 20, 2019 2:18 AM

1. HO

2. 1300 sq ft

3. 145’ on both decks (helix connected).

4. Single track for operational interest, the prototype I model is double tracked.

5. Summer of 2009.

6. 14 locos and 200+ cars. All cars support industries on the layout with very little “fluff”.

7. 5-45mph

8. 33” curves, a few 80+’ flatcars.

9. Around the walls and peninsulas two foot wide shelf layout, helix in center of both decks, with 4 track staging return loops at ends on both decks.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Saturday, May 18, 2019 5:33 PM

Thanks for the cool thread,  nice to see what everybody else is doing.

1)  N scale

2) 30 sq. ft.

3) 36 ft. (twice around)

4) 20 ft. double  16 ft. Single     Double track has Spurs on both sides to Industries.

5) Transitional era / change-her up variation fleets on standby.  (I like Green Machines and modern double stackers)

6) Appx. 20 locomotives, diesel and steam.  One Great Northern Empire Builder passenger car set.  Hundreds of Rolling Stock, I lost count.

7) Haven't got there yet,  still modeling.  If it's anything like my modeling, the speed will be slow.

8) 18 inch radius visible,  16 inch hidden.  Mostly 40-foot freight cars, some 50.  (83 ft passenger cars,  That ought to be a treat to seeTongue Tied)

9) 4 x 7 1/2 pull out

10) 2% grade max on main,  2.5 on one spur.  Four levels (lowest overpass to highest), one U shape upper level of the four, unconnected to the rest.

 

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Posted by Wolf359 on Saturday, May 18, 2019 4:21 PM

I've enjoyed this thread so far. It should be interesting to see if anyone comes up with a graph of the average sizes and speeds etc. So, here is my response:

1)Scale is HO.

2) 24 sq ft. (Temporary layout on dining room table)

3)Around 14'.

4)Single track 5'x4' oval.

5)All erasBig Smile

6)54 locos,(including B units and dummies) and 114 pieces of rolling stock.

7)Around 25 to 45 scale mph.

8)22" minimum radius curves and average curve radius, and the longest cars I run I'm thinking are about 85 scale feet.

9)Island-running.

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Friday, May 17, 2019 2:06 PM

1)What scale do you model?  N Scale

2)How large in sq ft is your layout?  625 SF dedicated room, about 450 SF of actual layout. The upper level and the lower level are both flat and are connected via helix and nolix. The helix drops about 12.5" through 3.5 turns, and the nolix drops another 6.5" over about 28 feet, for 19" separation between decks. The helix/nolix has a constant grade of 2 percent.

3)How long in feet is your mainline?  170 feet.

4)Do you run a single track main or more? Double mainline throughout.

5)Roughly what era do you model? Modern (1975 to present)

6)How big is your collection of rolling stock and locos?  I dunno, growing every day. Moderately large fleet, I guess.

7)At what approximate scale speeds do you do most of your running? 10 - 20 MPH in yards and sidings, about 50 - 60 MPH on the main.

8)What is your layouts minimum radius curves and average curve radius, and longest cars you run?  19" min radius. Autoracks and passenger cars are the longest, about 85 scale feet.

9)What type of layout do you have? (i.e. Around the walls-primarily switching, around the walls-primarily running, Island-running, none at this time, Etc  Around-the-room folded dogbone walk-in with two peninsulas. Pretty much a classic G-shape. The upper level is basically scenery for rail-fanning, minor operations, and high-balling. I call it the world's largest diorama. The lower level is basically an 18-inch shelf layout about 50 feet long (when the folded dogbone is unfolded) and fully scenicked as a deep-water port that also serves as a large yard. At the far end of the lower yard is a (kinda) hidden stage/storage area with a teardrop reverse loop at the extreme end.

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Posted by Harrison on Friday, May 17, 2019 1:00 PM

Doughless

I'm fairly surprised with the answers about speed.  I run at less than 25mph but didn't expect so many others to run close to that.  I don't see 50mph or greater highball responses.

 

That is how fast we are supposed to run, but thats for videos and op sessions. If you want to know the truth...PirateZip it!Wink

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Posted by Boiler-man on Friday, May 17, 2019 11:58 AM

1)What scale do you model? : N - Scale

2)How large in sq ft is your layout? : 672 sq/ft.

3)How long in feet is your mainline? : about 150 ft.

4)Do you run a single track main or more? Triple track main.

5)Roughly what era do you model? Steam to disel transistion.

6)How big is your collection of rolling stock and locos? : Rolling stock - 1000+ Locos - 50+ (Honestly I do not know exact numbers).

7)At what approximate scale speeds do you do most of your running? : I keep the scale speed on the main lines down to 45mph tops.

8)What is your layouts minimum radius curves and average curve radius, and longest cars you run? : Main line radius min. is 16 in. with average about 24 in. longest feight train is 30 40ft. cars and a caboose.

9)What type of layout do you have? (i.e. Around the walls-primarily switching, around the walls-primarily running, Island-running, none at this time, Etc. : due to my job we have moved out of the large home and put the layout in storage. The layout is an island type that is of modular construction.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Friday, May 17, 2019 11:57 AM

Doughless

I'm fairly surprised with the answers about speed.  I run at less than 25mph but didn't expect so many others to run close to that.  I don't see 50mph or greater highball responses.

 

I have some Lionels that I can run fast when I want speed.PirateLaugh

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Posted by Doughless on Friday, May 17, 2019 11:53 AM

I'm fairly surprised with the answers about speed.  I run at less than 25mph but didn't expect so many others to run close to that.  I don't see 50mph or greater highball responses.

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Posted by carl425 on Friday, May 17, 2019 10:25 AM

1)What scale do you model? N

2)How large in sq ft is your layout? 135

3)How long in feet is your mainline? 65' not including helix and staging

4)Do you run a single track main or more? double with some triple

5)Roughly what era do you model? today

6)How big is your collection of rolling stock and locos? 250/20

7)At what approximate scale speeds do you do most of your running? <35

8)What is your layouts minimum radius curves and average curve radius, and longest cars you run? 16.5", 89' autoracks

9)What type of layout do you have? G (Around the walls with peninsula)

You should have asked about stage of construction. I'm about 75% finished with benchwork.

I have the right to remain silent.  By posting here I have given up that right and accept that anything I say can and will be used as evidence to critique me.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Friday, May 17, 2019 9:50 AM

restorator
Alos how many people are serious collectors even without an actual layout. I do both as I have and will definately continue to buy items I like even if they may never see actual use on the tracks

I do that too.  In 3 scales yet.

But really serious collectors have plans and usually focus on particular areas like getting one of every Tyco boxcar produced or every Southern model.  I once shared an office with a guy who collected N&W in N scale.  He bought everything N&W in N.  (Although he also bought other stuff that appealed to him.)  He had no layout and no intention of having one, just a circle of track to test run his locomotives.

In comparison, I'm just a casual collector.

Paul

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Posted by Harrison on Friday, May 17, 2019 9:41 AM

restorator

 

 
BNSF UP and others modeler

I have an idea. There is a lot of clear, simple information here that could be compiled into graphs, just for funsies. If that is of interest, I'll compile everyone's information into graphs and post them here.

 

 

 
I think that would be very interesting to see in graphs and such. I think it would also be break down how many layouts are only in the designing phase, ones that are only a partial percentage bulit, and ones that are completed (or "almost" complete as one is never really "done" with a layout as things do get revised and changed after being accomplished!) Alos how many people are serious collectors even without an actual layout. I do both as I have and will definately continue to buy items I like even if they may never see actual use on the tracks.
 
Lets keep this going. This info could be very useful to the hobby media and manufacturers. 
 

I agree, graphs would be cool to see. Maybe we could calculate the average ratio of locos to cars too?

Harrison

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Posted by restorator on Friday, May 17, 2019 9:11 AM

BNSF UP and others modeler

I have an idea. There is a lot of clear, simple information here that could be compiled into graphs, just for funsies. If that is of interest, I'll compile everyone's information into graphs and post them here.

 
I think that would be very interesting to see in graphs and such. I think it would also be break down how many layouts are only in the designing phase, ones that are only a partial percentage bulit, and ones that are completed (or "almost" complete as one is never really "done" with a layout as things do get revised and changed after being accomplished!) Alos how many people are serious collectors even without an actual layout. I do both as I have and will definately continue to buy items I like even if they may never see actual use on the tracks.
 
Lets keep this going. This info could be very useful to the hobby media and manufacturers. 
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Posted by Eastrail11 on Thursday, May 16, 2019 9:12 AM

1)What scale do you model - HO

2)How large in sq ft is your layout? 45 sq ft

3)How long in feet is your mainline? Not sure, I have not measured. I'd guess around 25ft, but I could be completely wrong. 

4)Do you run a single track main or more? single track

5)Roughly what era do you model? 1960s or modern day. 

6)How big is your collection of rolling stock and locos? American = 3 locos and about 30 pieces of rolling stock

European (Marklin) Around 6 locos, around 70 pieces of rolling stock, and two Train Sets (ICE 2 and a NS Class 4200)

 

7)At what approximate scale speeds do you do most of your running? Around 20-30 mph

8)What is your layouts minimum radius curves and average curve radius, and longest cars you run?

Minimus is 22 on switches, mainline is 24. Average is 24 I guess. Longest cars are 85ft Hi- Levels

 

9)What type of layout do you have? Island - Primarily switching. 

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, May 16, 2019 8:55 AM

1) HO scale

2) Room 24x24

3) Ultimately 150 ft

4) Single main

5) 1900-1905

6) About 200 cars and 20 engines 

7) Vmax is set between 50 and 75% of max. 

8) 19" min (industrial) 24-27" normal. 

9) Point to point around the walls with both switching and running.

Questions you didn't ask:

10) NCE DCC, both radio and tethered throttles

11) Car cards and waybills

12) Dark railroad with TT&TO operation.

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Posted by Onewolf on Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:54 AM

1) HO

2) The room is 28ftx32ft. Layout fills room.

3) Approx 500ft

4) Mostly single track main but there is a 70ft stretch of double track main

5) 1957

6) Not sure, but I think I have approx 50 locomotives.

7) 40 MPH on the mainline (8"/sec)

8) Minimum mainline radius is 40". Average is 40". Minimum radius of secondary track is 32".  Longest cars are 85ft passenger cars.

9) Layout is a loop to loop across three levels with about 500 ft of mainline between return loops.

Modeling an HO gauge freelance version of the Union Pacific Oregon Short Line and the Utah Railway around 1957 in a world where Pirates from the Great Salt Lake founded Ogden, UT.

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Posted by Ulrich on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:40 AM

 

1)What scale do you model?  HO

2)How large in sq ft is your layout?  45 sq. ft. 

3)How long in feet is your mainline? 16 ft. 

4)Do you run a single track main or more? Single track

5)Roughly what era do you model? Contemporary

6)How big is your collection of rolling stock and locos? 2 locomotives, 15 cars. 

7)At what approximate scale speeds do you do most of your running? 25 mph.

8)What is your layouts minimum radius curves and average curve radius, and longest cars you run?

18 in curves, 18 in average, longest cars are HO scale grain cars. 

9)What type of layout do you have? (i.e. Around the walls-primarily switching, around the walls-primarily running, Island-running, none at this time, Etc. 

 Tabletop 9 ft X 5 ft. one loop with industrial spurs, team track, loco shed. 

 

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Posted by The Butcher on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 9:01 PM

I'm still in the planning stages of my layout, so take these answers as not written in stone.

1) HO scale

2) About 47 sq ft in a 2 foot wide C-shape

3) The mainline will be about 22 feet long. I'm probably using code 83 for everything and mostly #5 or #6 turnouts.

4) Definitely a single track mainline with lots of sidings, a runaround, and a yard

5) I had picked 1947, but I think I might go as far as 1951-ish. I'm not sure. I'm more interested in early diesels for this layout than late steam and I still want to use only 40' cars.

6) My fleet is still very small right now. My two locos are a Walthers Mainline SW-1 PRR 9137 (DCC-ready) and an unlettered Bachmann GE 44-ton switcher (DCC On Board). I'm currently using an MRC Railpower 1300 but am planning to upgrade to an NCE Powercab and install a decoder into (and maybe a speaker) and relettering the SW-1. My rolling stock currently consists of 4 boxcars. There's a Model Power 40' Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo that I've been using for weathering practice. The other three are all Accurail 40' boxcars: a Milwaukee Road plug door, an undecorated 6 panel wood, and an undecorated outside braced with wood ends. I added weight to them and upgraded the wheels and couplers. That's it for now. I'm hoping to expand that to at least 30 cars with a mix of boxcars, reefers, tank cars, flat cars, gondolas and open hoppers.

7) My speeds will be low. Switching speeds. That's like 20-25 mph max?

8) My minimum radius will probably be 18" as I only plan to run local switching trains with maybe six or seven 40' cars at most. If I can do what I want to in the space I have with larger radius curves, I will.

9) It will be a 2-foot wide around the walls switching layout in an 11' x 11' room. I want to be able to have a guest bed (probably a full) and still be able to access the deep closet, so I'm a little bit limited on what I can do.

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 9:00 PM

1: HO Scale

2: Will be a 12X10 L shaped layout, plus a 8X3 staging yard. (Currently the room is being remodeled. So currently, I have a 4X10 loop for test running.)

3: Would be roughly 58' if I'm doing my math right...

4: Single ttrack main with passing sidings.

5: 2002 - Forward, with some artistic license... 

6: Rolling stock is not big enough to rotate. (But don't ask my family that question! They will answer "too big.") Loco roster has 41, but not all are operational at this time. (And some are only special occasion runners.)

7: 35-40 SMPH Max is the plan. 

8: Plan is 24" minimum, with most 28". 89' longest.

9: Around two walls, mixed running and switching. Staging yard will double as a working switching yard, and main line will run between industries out and back. There will be a "cut-off" for continuous loop style operation, but most will be out and back.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, May 13, 2019 8:29 PM

PRR8259
Minimum Kato 26.375" radius with 28.75" radius easement sections. 

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One of the greatest advantages I have found to using HO Kato Unitrack is how simple it is to do these easements.

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I don't remember the exact measurements for radius, but I know for my hidden track I can use an approximately. 22" minimum radius with two easement sections on each end of 30 inches and 26 inches, and everything runs silky smooth.

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Posted by PRR8259 on Saturday, May 11, 2019 9:50 PM

1) HO

2) Unknown sq ft

3) 81 feet

4) single track

5) We model "today": the engines and rolling stock we can see today.  Roster is being purged of older items.

6) 11 diesels and currently 49 freight cars

7) 30 to 70 scale mph

8) Minimum Kato 26.375" radius with 28.75" radius easement sections.  Do have 32" and 34" radius curves.  Can run any diesel or freight car we want even in curved tunnels (custom size).  DDA40X and longest, tallest freight cars are no problem.

9) Along the wall folded dogbone.

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Posted by Harrison on Saturday, May 11, 2019 3:45 PM

1) HO

2) 32(4x8) + 12(1x12) = 44 square ft.

3) about 40 ft I think?

4) single track main with two passing sidings.

5) 1978, give or take 10 years

6) 38 cars, 6 cabooses, 5 locomotives, plus some borrowed equitment.

7) 10-40 MPH(main line) 10-20 MPH(city limits).

8) 18" radius. The longest cars I run are 75' passenger cars.

9) Table with shelf extention, mostly switching and tranfers with some mainline traffic.

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Posted by BRVRR on Saturday, May 11, 2019 10:39 AM

1) I model in HO. The current BRVRR layout originated in 2004.

2) 4 ft. by 10 ft. 40 sq. ft.

3) Outer main is 24 ft. Inner main is just over 22 ft. Combined mainline is 46 ft.

4) Double track. With a reverse loop in the inner main.

5) Mainly the transition era, 1940s to 1960s. But I have some modern locomotives and rolling stock.

6) I have approximately 200 cars. About 1/4 are passenger cars and the rest freight cars. 51 locos at last count. 12 steam and the rest diesel. 95% of all locos are equipped with sound.

7) Approximately 35-50scale mph. Passenger trains at the high end.

8) There is one (1) 18" radius curve in the reverse loop. Otherwise the minimum radius is the 20" radius on the inner main line. The outer main line is 22-1/2" radius. The mains are spaced at 2-1/2". My longest cars are 84' passenger cars.

9) The layout is essentially a  a table top. It is on rollers and moves back and forth on wall mounted tracks.

NOTE: The link below will lead to my website that documents most of the above with photos and more extensive descriptions.

 

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Posted by CGW121 on Saturday, May 11, 2019 7:43 AM

SPSOT fan

Uhhh, Mr CGW121, you may want to go back and edit your post so it doesn’t look like snjroy said the answers for your railroad. Just go and delete the “[ quote user="snjroy"]” and “[ /quote]” from your post.

 

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Saturday, May 11, 2019 7:29 AM

Uhhh, Mr CGW121, you may want to go back and edit your post so it doesn’t look like snjroy said the answers for your railroad. Just go and delete the “[ quote user="snjroy"]” and “[ /quote]” from your post.

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Posted by CGW121 on Saturday, May 11, 2019 7:19 AM

snjroy

 

 

1)What scale do you model: HO

2)How large in sq ft is your layout? 31' by 20

3)How long in feet is your mainline? 160 ft

4)Do you run a single track main or more? Single track with passing sidings.

5)Roughly what era do you model? Transition era

6)How big is your collection of rolling stock and locos? maybe 100 peices of rolling stock, not sure how many locos.

7)At what approximate scale speeds do you do most of your running? 25

8)What is your layouts minimum radius curves and average curve radius, and longest cars you run? Mainline 24"

9)What type of layout do you have? Around the walls.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by snjroy on Saturday, May 11, 2019 7:04 AM

 

 

1)What scale do you model: HO, HOn3, HOn30 and O. You might want to ask gauge.

2)How large in sq ft is your layout? About 60, plus a portable 48

3)How long in feet is your mainline? 25, and 22 and 10 on the other

4)Do you run a single track main or more? One single, 2 on the other

5)Roughly what era do you model? 1890 to 1970s. I also run trains at a club, which expands my reach in terms of era.

6)How big is your collection of rolling stock and locos? Locos: 42. Rolling stock: 135

7)At what approximate scale speeds do you do most of your running? 25

8)What is your layouts minimum radius curves and average curve radius, and longest cars you run? 18, 22 on mainline and 80

9)What type of layout do you have? (i.e. Around the walls-primarily switching, around the walls-primarily running, Island-running, none at this time, Etc. Around the wall and portable

 

 

 

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Posted by oldline1 on Friday, May 10, 2019 11:32 PM

I model the Western Maryland Ry on a coal branch running from a small yard/terminal out to a couple coal mines with 2 towns with switching along the way. Max grade is 3.5%. Here goes:

1. HO scale

2. 224 sq ft in a dedicated new building

3. 60' mainline approx

4. single track code 83 Walthers track #4 & #5 & #7.5 curved turnouts

5.1953-54

6. 841 cars and 158 locos (mostly brass locos)

7. 30-45 mph

8. 22"r

9. around the walls with a center peninsula-no hidden track

oldline1

 

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