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Posted by OldEngineman on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:52 PM

Got a surprise this evening when I won an auction on ebay for a Walthers GP35.

Ebay is now charging sales tax!  Doesn't apply to every state yet, but does apply to mine (CT). The seller for this particular item was in PA.

Somethin' I don't quite get, however. When you buy something on ebay, you are "buying" from the seller -- NOT from ebay. ebay is [what I would guess is called] a "broker", a "man-in-the-middle".

I realize there was a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision that established that "a nexus" wasn't needed for some states to require sellers in other states to collect sales tax. But again, ebay isn't "the seller" here, merely a facilitator in the sale.

Wondering how they can get away with that? I would reckon they'll get challenged on that at some point.

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:45 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer Please and leave a stein outside for Ulrich.

 Really nothing to talk about today, so I guess that is good?

 Not a single new customer at work today! Bang Head I am on the Titanic of Mattress Stores.

 Ed You sure that photo was not of a BLI F-7 ? Kind of a inside joke if you have been following my and Ed's post.

 Later, Ken 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:05 PM

gmpullman
Backing in with the pilot, basically a brakeman, in the observation car where there is a brake valve inside a small compartment.

Thanks Ed !  Now I know how it all worked, and the procedure that is suppose to happen!

And thank you Garry for your comments on the rear brakeman.  You posted while I typed my response to Ed.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:02 PM

Good evening. 

Ed ... That is an interesting collision.  I recall seeing many Burlington trains backing into Union Station .  There was always a member of the crew at the rear with controls for brakes .  I don’t recall use of the word, pilot, for that job. .i thought it was the brakeman..... Apparently, the E8 had more damage than the Budd observation car, and that is remarkable. 

 

Ray ... Thanks for sharing with us your enjoyable trip. I’m glad you are home safely even if it was cold at your home. 

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:59 PM

mbinsewi
 just so I understand more, so there was a guy, (pilot) at the rear of the CB&Q train that could control the train?  or give signals to the engineer? who controls the train?

NWP SWP
I think Ed means that the power ran around to the rear and was towing the train from the rear.

From what I gather, the PRR train got permission to leave and was moving out (south, RR east) the CB&Q train was coming from the 14th St. coach yard. Backing in with the pilot, basically a brakeman, in the observation car where there is a brake valve inside a small compartment.

The pilot seems to have missed, ignored or maybe wasn't even watching for signals and did not use his brake valve to stop the back-up movement.

The engineer would watch his brake gauge and shut the throttle when he sees the brake-pipe pressure drop, indicating that the pilot was initiating a reduction or stop.

The PRR engineer put his train into emergency when he saw that the CB&Q train was occupying his track. The CB&Q train was supposed to wait for #58 to clear, then back into the same track he just left from.

Tower operator sounded emergency horn but no one heard it to stop movement. Impact was only about 14 combined MPH, each train slowed to about 7-10 MPH at impact.

EMD locos are designed with "crumple-zones" which obviously seem to work! Several cars of the PRR train derailed. Clear weather and about three in the afternoon. Pilot simply wasn't performing his duties.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:26 PM

I think Ed means that the power ran around to the rear and was towing the train from the rear.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:24 PM

gmpullman
For some reason the pilot at the rear of the CB&Q train backing into CUS did not stop for a restricting signal and entered the path of the departing PRR train # 58.

Would you mind elaborating a bit Ed?,   just so I understand more, so there was a guy, (pilot) at the rear of the CB&Q train that could control the train?  or give signals to the engineer? who controls the train?

Thanks,

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:21 PM

howmus
Huh? No, there was none of that going on.  LOL

Glad you didn't make me have to ask Ray.Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh

Glad you had a great trip.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:17 PM

 

Not every train gets out of Chicago without a few bumps in the road!

 

 PRR_5805_CUS by Edmund, on Flickr

E8 5805A was only seven months old when the CB&Q train got in his way while backing into C.U.S. on March 10, 1954. 72 people were injured and a CUS police officer had a fatal heart attack as a result of the excitement.

For some reason the pilot at the rear of the empty CB&Q train backing into CUS did not stop for a restricting signal and entered the path of the departing PRR train # 58.

Ouch!

Here's the 5805A in better days:

 PRR_EPA-5805 by Edmund, on Flickr

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:08 PM

Late afternoon all, had monsoons from 24hrs ago up til noonYes now a mixed bag. The foliage is starting to return to normal. More rain for the week ahead and we'll take it.

Jimmy nothin wrong with getting an inheritance, I dare say most of us get something handed down to us. My family can be traced back to the Swan River Valley in Manitoba when it was settled in the 1790s. Of course, there were also lots of other immigrants since then as well. My grandfather was sent to Canada as a Barnardo boy and did quite well for himself despite his rough start.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/special/ourcityourworld/uk/the-barnardo-boys-149343895.html 

My sister was the first to go to University and even though I stopped with High School we both have done very well. There is a lot of info on the generations since that first group in the 1790s that we have obtained and every generation has done better than the previous one. Always leave more than you came with is making a contribution to the betterment of all. 

I remember having extensive talks with my parents about their estate and have had some very long talks with my kids about ours, even though they were/are just in high school. Our family has gone from dirt farmers that barely survived when they arrived in America to the point where my kids will not have to work at all if they choose not to. Though I know neither would waste their lives like that. They will be getting a trust instead of a lump sum. It was their choice after hearing the benefits of both from the lawyers.

Production sample, can't wait!

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Spent more time in the trainroom today trying to get creative with some lighting experiments. Reading up on how other people do things and am determined to invent a better mousetrap.Laugh

Talked to the kid in Ottawa a lot today, school is done except for exams. His lowest grade on anything this year was an A-. He is making me mighty proud as is my daughter, she is back above 98% on the year. I am rubbing my hands as that means lots of scholarships for both of them. We started their University accounts when they were born and it has hardly been touched. It will go towards down payments on a house for them if not used. They work hard they get the reward. 

Hockey playoffs start tonight, wife came home with Corona and limes, life is good.

Kevin, I have never had grits, don't even know what they are and I am not sure if I have had Catfish, that looked pretty good though. I ate a whole pizza last night, it was pretty big. Won't put much of a dent in the calorie count as I am burning about 4000 a day right now with this new HIIT(high-intensity intermittent training) routine on the bike. I think I am going to try and get back out on the road again. I find it painful riding on the road when the Arthritis is bad, every bump is agony. We shall see.

Had to go hunting for the Diner as it had fallen way down. Jeffery would never let that happen and without Ulrich, traffic flow is not too high these days.

First round on me tonight just because life is good.

All the best to all.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:44 PM

I'm Baaaaaaaacccccckkkkk.......

Yep I survived the time in Key West and had a wonderful trip!  Had help navigating from point A to point B in the Atlanta Airport.....  Being hearing impared has it's advantages sometimes.  The young lady who came to help me get to the gate where I was to board the second flight arrived with a wheelchair for me.  I laughed and said I have trouble hearing but power walk about 18 to 20 miles a week and don't think I need the wheelchair quite yet....  She walked very fast and I was able to keep pace with no problem at all.

On the way back from the Key West airport the plane had to wait about 15 minutes at the runway because, due to a heavy storm that came through they had two planes that had to land before we could take off.  My flight ended up in a holding pattern for well over an hour in the Florida panhandle and was 5 minutes away from being sent to another airport because of the system.  That had me uneasy....  At the last moment they were cleard to proceed to Atlanta.  The plane made up a bit of time but still was way over an hour late and by the time we got off , I had all of 20 minutes to get to the next gate to board the plane...  I asked the first skycap I saw about the help I was supposed to get to guide me to the gate, he checked out my boarding pass and looked up where the gate was located.  I arrived at Gate B10.  My next flight was to board at B14 about 30 yards down the hall.  I made it with no problem.  Landed in Rochester, NY about 11:35pm and got to my Volt about a mile away before I froze to death (it was a bit colder in Rochester).  Made it home by 1:15am.   Long day!

My friend and I did have a great time together, some great meals (she is a fine cook), some serious conversations, just had fun being around each other, and...  I enjoyed very much the concert she sang in.  Got to meet her daughter (also in the concert), toured the Botanical Gardens, the Hemmingway House,  and walked a lot of the downtown area.  Went to her church Sunday Morning, and I went to St. Pauls Episcopal Church for a rehearsal and again for the concert Sunday night.  Also ate several meals out at some of the great restaurants there.  Oh, I also consumed 3 pieces of Key Lime Pie.....  GOOOOOOODDD!

She fed me way too well, I might add.  Imagine my surprise when I dared to get on the scales this morning to find out I actually lost 3 lbs. while I was there.  Guess we did walk a lot!  Huh? No, there was none of that going on.  Embarrassed LOL

73

 

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:45 AM

Good moring, Diners...... I'll have coffee and a donut, please. 

Dave .... Your post was a very kind and thoughtful message for Jimmy. Hats off to you. 

Kevin .... Sounds like you are having an enjoyable trip in Georgia.  a few years ago I treated my wife to a borthday celebration in Atlanta. Her birthay dinner was at Morton's. 

Meanwhile, back in Illinois, here is a Chicago and Eastern Illinois train. 

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:34 AM

Kevin, I've always wanted to visit Louisiana, looks like a great place.

I Always have wanted to see New Orleans street car system to. 

 

Dave, I just reread your post to me.  You're right, it's my inheritance.  Now I just need the FT job, and I'll be set for awhile  

 

I was asked, here Is a small panorama of the layout room, and the eventual expansion 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:11 AM

Good morning everyone,

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My wife and I had a remarkable evening last night in Atlanta.

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It started out disappointing. We wanted to eat at Crispy B's Bar-B-Q on main street in NW Atlanta, but when we got there, it had burned down! What a tragedy. One of the best smoked meat eateries in the South is gone.

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We jumped on I-75 North and scooted up to Acworth to eat at Henry's Louisiana Grill.

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Acworth is a super-cute town with the CSX mainline running double tracked right through the heart of the city. They are building this neat pedestrian bridge to get over the tracks.

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They are also building a nifty new freight station for some reason.

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And they even have a caboose.

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Downtown has all kinds of restored wall billboard paintings.

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Henry's is one of those restaurants that you absolutely need to visit at least once. I have been there scores of times. 

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Last night I had the hush puppies as an appetizer. You might not think that hush puppies can be made into AWESOME, but trust me, they can!

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For the entree I had the balckened catfish filets over cheesy grits with a creamy crawfish suace... SO GOOD!

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Chef Henry even came out and said HI to my wife and myself. He gave us Mardi Gras beads, and posed for a quick picture.

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So what started out a little bad, turned into a great night out. A CSX freight even drove by as we were leaving Acworth.

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I hope everyone is doing well. Stay safe.

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-Kevin

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 12:41 AM

Jimmy_Braum
 It was my dad's house, and when he passed back in June I inherited it.  Not the way I wanted to get it, but I own a house, and a little under an acre of land in a "higher class" township

Hey Jimmy,

I understand your feelings about how the house came to be yours, but there is nothing wrong with getting an inheritance. My parents helped Dianne and I pay off our mortgage long before we could have on our own. Their money came from selling property that my ancestors acquired almost 200 years ago (the sale was forced upon us by the draconian inheritance laws of the time or we would still have the land). Be proud of what your family has done for you!

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 11:48 PM

I liked the description a few days ago of the Cuda Ken.  I know you're going to enjoy driving that on the first Sunny Sunday as I will enjoy driving my Mach 1

If you could just post a little sneak peek, I would love to see itYes

TF

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:28 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer please, I see RJ left a stein outside for Ulrich all ready.

 Work Front I felt like a Fertilizer Sales Person today because all I sold was poop! 6 customers 4 bought yet I still only had $788.00 in sales? Bang Head

 Jimmy I am envious of your train room sizes! My room is 19' X 25' but I had to give up my garage to have it.

 JR I like all cars but I love my Mopars. Bet you would like a Plymouth Prowler! Heard they handle well. Now if they just had a V 8.

 Wife Credit Score? Bang Head Sue been getting a few credit card offers in the mail but never wants to try because we know she has bad credit hisory. My daughter gave her a Kohl's Deparment Store card in my wifes name about 7 years ago with a $2500 limt. Around 15 months ago I gave Sue a Citi Bank Card and that limt is now at $2250.00 with a balances of $110.00 as of right now.

 I have been working hard to get my credit score up! I am now up to 698 which is not bad. Big Smile Ran her last night and she is at 740? Surprise Bang Head I understand why, shows she has $4750 in credit only has a blances of $110.00 or using 3% of her credit limt. Of crouse my daughter and I take care of the accounts.

 Later Ken

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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 8:03 PM

Quiet tonight. Vegging out in front of the one eyed monster after working on the tracks again tonight. Lets set up the bar. I'll have a glass of red and whatever anyone else wants, and a stein set aside for Ulrich.

I need to develop a plan for gaping then powering the track past the frogs. Seems the power routing turnouts I used are not much good in a yard where there are a bunch close to each other. Makes dead spots when I least expect it,sometimes seems to stop things dead.  Ah well. Keep at it until I find what I did wrong.  Catch y'all later,   J.R.

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:48 AM

Thanks for all the compliments and advice everyone.  Ill try to adress everyone.  It was my dad's house, and when he passed back in June I inherited it.  Not the way I wanted to get it, but I own a house, and a little under an acre of land in a "higher class" township-_ NO HOA thankfully!   My mom will be moving in with me as well-my house, but she'll be "paying rent and expenses" to help out.

Hardwood floor is original to the house, and I polished/cleaned it to restore it.  Thr darker wood I did myself, and that was just that peel and stick stuff. I made the mistake of starting on one side instead of in the center of the room, so I had to correct by the time I got to the center.  Yes, ive got about over 100 books.  A lot of Stephen King(two bottom shelves), but I've got a lot of RR reference and RR topic books to. 

The cabinets are done, it Was just given a poly coat. 

  Yes, we're going to move the stove over, since we have a few Island carts. the contractor I had hired to d the bathroom and kitchen will be enclosing a "breezeway" outside, so I have a dining room/mud room. 

  The train room underneath runs the squarefootage of the addition-  its an old ranch house that had the square footage almost doubled.   So thr train room is 26' length and 30' width. when  punch a brick in thevoriginal wall out, I'll have another 10-12' of modeling space. 

 

  I do love a good pizza, it's generally an easy go to food when you Go Anywhere. Since I have food allergies, there aren't many pizzas that have peant oil or butter involved. I love to cook to. 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:41 AM

Good Morning All,

   I'll have a regular with a glazed donut please Zoe. 42F with fog this morning. Busy day yesterday sorting out what we're doing on several projects. Trying to be ready for "one day" surgery later today so the entire works don't stop on my account. 

   I noticed the stove next to the fridge too. The spacer idea is good and it will also cut heat transfer from the stove to the fridge so it doesn't have to work as hard. Even the energy star type are not brilliant on insulation. 

   Stayed up til the end of the finals last night and the same with the womens finals Sunday night though my interest levels took a hit when UConn went out. Good games though. 

   Back into the shop to pick up tools.   Chow, J.R.

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Posted by up831 on Monday, April 8, 2019 11:57 PM

Jimmy Braum:  Congratulations on the new house.  I hope you have many happy years there, especially since you're getting a large train room.

I'm curious.  In the appliance picture, it shows the range directly adjacent to the refrigerator.  Is that permanent or just temporary?  It's Your house, do what you want, but if that's where the appliances are staying, I would highly recommend that you place at least a 15" cabinet between the range and the fridge, and place a minimum 12" cabinet on the other side of the range.  I think you'll find it to be better.  There needs to be landing areas for your food for both the range and the fridge.  Ask another designer and they will tell you the same thing.

Food in Chicago:  for deep dish, Lou Malnati's, for hot dogs, ther are some small vendors that are superb, but Portillo's is very representative of the classic Chicago style dog, which FYI are the best on the planet.  Ketchup on hot dogs, sacrilege!  I think Al's is reputed to have the best Italian beef.  If you like hot spicy, be sure to have your beef with gardenaires.  But, for hamburgers, sorry, go to In-n-Out in LA!

Hello to everyone, and I hope everyone is OK, safe, and warm.

Less is more,...more or less!

Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, April 8, 2019 11:30 PM

It was good to see my Son.  He came down from North Dakota to see the Final Four.

Of course Mom accommodated him in the hotel she works at.  The hotel rooms here went from $500 to $1,500 Citywide for this event.  My kid paid $150 for two nights.

Saturday night we ordered in pizza in his hotel room and watched the two final four games.  It was fun spending time with him.

The rest of the time he was here was spent with his friends he flew down with.

Understandable, I was young once too.

TF

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, April 8, 2019 11:03 PM

Good evening .... 

Jimmy .... You did a great job getting the house ready to live in. 

Brent ... Thanks for posting the video of Rapido trains being built at the factory. 

Erie was another railroad serving Chicago. ..

I recall seeing the Erie E8's with their attractive sceme with two shades of green. 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, April 8, 2019 10:45 PM

It don't look goodNo  I will see him for breakfast, before leavin town tomorrowYes

TF    He will be all rightYes

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, April 8, 2019 10:33 PM

Well, it has to be Texas in overtime for the Final Four as my son is here at the game. 

TF

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, April 8, 2019 10:30 PM

BATMAN
Hot off the press from Rapido, a Royal Hudson factory video.

Bill Schnider needs a better mike setup, something like Ken Patterson uses. Ken has more audio equipment than NBC and CNN combined. 

Nice to get a behind-the-scenes look at the LRC Factory Yes

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, April 8, 2019 9:42 PM

Good evening all.

Didn't get to our walk today, the wheels fell off for family members today just as we were going out the door. The wife hopped in the car and I in the truck to save the day once again.Laugh I see another PWRS gift certificate in my future.Big Smile

Jimmy congrats on the digs. Now let's see the important part....The trainroom!Pirate

Hot off the press from Rapido, a Royal Hudson factory video. I saw mine.Laugh

I only have enough in me to watch the idiot box tonight. I always feel like I am wasting my life doing that.

Charlie, send pics of the wildlife and maybe a few of some animals as well.Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh

All the best to all.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Monday, April 8, 2019 9:39 PM

Good Evening All,

   Been over in the electronics area all day trying to suss out the track wiring in the service yard. 

   Let me add my congrats Jimmy. House looks nice and the work is impressive. I vote for stain and urethane. Our first apartment had painted cabinets and rather than yank them, we disassembled stripped and stained them. Didn't hurt that the CFO at the time was a trainer for BIX so we had access to the training facility.

   I'll have a beer with Ken over there in the corner. Nice you keep Ulrich in mind Ken. I'm afraid I've never had any Mopar products though I've driven a few. We have lots of twisty bumpy hilly roads here and the little ankle biter cars I have had are really a lot more fun on them. 

   Turns out I had a round of bursitis from spending the week on the concrete runways at Sebring and driving home aggravated it. Been following doctors orders and taking the scrips and am doing a ton better. Now all I have to do is figure out all the faults in my trackwork.

   Love the pics and videos you are all posting.  Catch you all later, J.R.

 

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Posted by drgwcs on Monday, April 8, 2019 8:50 PM

maxman

 

 
drgwcs
You also have to get an Italian Beef and a Chicago Dog- (do not ask for ketchup on your hot dog whatever you do)

 

Why not?  What's their "beef" with that?

 

There are a few things that will cause a fight in Chicago White Sox vs Cubs someone putting ketchup on a hot dog and who has the best pizza. As to the ketchup on a hot dog-  I have no idea where and how it started????- they do put sliced tomato on a Chicago dog- maybe that was why. You just don't do it my wife asked once at one place when we first moved there. They said said and I quote "I ain't gonna ruin that hot dog with ketchup it's over there if you wanna ruin it"

Best Pizza is also an argument. My favorites were giordanos and Lou Malnatis. I probably liked Lou Malnatis peperoni a little better but didn't like their sausage and peperroni as much I swear they cut a circle out of the pig and put it on the pizza for the sausage. Just a little bit much.

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, April 8, 2019 8:10 PM

Jimmy!

Congratulations on owning your own home at 26 years of age! Not many can claim that accomplishment.

The work you have done is excellent! Dianne and I worked our butts off to renovate our first house and when we sold it a few years later we were well rewarded for our efforts. You will be too!

Now sit back and have one on us! You deserve it!

Cheers!!

Dave

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