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Posted by GMTRacing on Thursday, April 11, 2019 1:16 PM

No worries. Just keep in mind, IT stands for interminable tinkeringWhistling  J.R.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, April 11, 2019 1:47 PM

Experiences of past tinkering have not gone well, and some features never do work again.

You'll see.  Smile, Wink & Grin  

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:40 PM

I wondered why the site was taking so long today.  Glad to hear it's not my connection.

I hate taxes.

However, I have never felt it fair that if I buy something from Spring Creek Model Railroads in Nebraska, they have to tack 5.5% tax onto the price.  But if I order online the same item from some other state, I didn't pay tax on it. 

Of course, everyone was supposed to voluntarily report their purchases and voluntarily pay the tax when they filed their Nebraska income tax.  Guess how many people actually did that!

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:15 PM

Good afternon, everybody .

Steve O ..... Your said you were taking a day for your birthday last week.... I hope it was enjoyable. 

ebay .... Sellers pay high fees to eaby and paypal. To cover them, thye charge more for shipping and handling or for the item price. ... If you have to pay sakes taxes on top of that, your item, of course, will cost even more..... Everybody wants our money. Watch out! 

Meanhwile, back in Chicago, IL .... Here are some Santa Fe F-units at Dearborn Station. Gotta love the "war bonnet" colors. 

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Posted by maxman on Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:36 PM

gmpullman

 

Not every train gets out of Chicago without a few bumps in the road!

 

 PRR_5805_CUS by Edmund, on Flickr

 

Interesting.  From this view it appears not much damage to the observation.  The diesel seems to have had a crumple zone that took the brunt.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:18 PM

maxman
From this view it appears not much damage to the observation.

I started a thread at Classic Trains on the subject. One of the replies includes a link to the ICC investigation (registration required) and another reply included a copy of much of the text from that report listing the damage to equipment.

http://cs.trains.com/ctr/f/3/t/275475.aspx

 

The equipment of both trains stopped upright and in line with the respective tracks on which the trains were moving. The equipment train was moved southward a distance of about 6 feet by the force of the impact. The north truck of the north car of this train was derailed. This car was badly damaged. The other cars of the train were somewhat damaged, and the Diesel-electric units were slightly damaged. The first Diesel-electric unit of No. 58 stopped with the right side of the front end against the north end of the north car of the opposing movement. The front truck of this unit was displaced and moved northward a distance of about 3 feet by the force of the impact, and the body structure of the unit buckled over the front truck location. The rear wheels of the front truck of the first Diesel-electric unit and the front wheels of the front truck and all wheels of the rear truck of the second Diesel-electric unit were derailed. The front truck of the first car, the rear trucks of the second and fifth cars, both trucks of the sixth car, and the front truck of the seventh car were derailed. The rear end of the second car was off center. The first Diesel-electric unit was considerably damaged, and the second unit was slightly damaged. The first four cars were slightly damaged. The fifth to the eighth cars, inclusive, and the rear two cars were somewhat damaged.

Pennsy's train No. 58 is the Liberty Limited, Chicago to Washington D.C.

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Posted by Sparky Rail on Thursday, April 11, 2019 5:23 PM

Good evening everyone-

The Museum of Science and Industry. I sure do have a couple of strong memories there. First, of course, the layout. I was there as a very young kid, must have been somewhere around 4-7 years old, that would have been 70-73. It was the first time I ever saw a layout anywhere near that large. I had seen silver and red Santa Fe war bonnets in my big brother's train set, but never blue and yellow like they had there. I was awestruck. 

But the thing I'll probably never forget is that coal mine exhibit exibit. I remember being absolutely TERRIFIED the entire time we were "underground", after the ride on the "elevator". Then the relief when we just walked out into the museum! Whew! Yeah, musta been closer to 4 than 7...

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, April 11, 2019 6:04 PM

Sparky Rail
et is that coal mine exhibit exibit. I remember being absolutely TERRIFIED the entire time we were "underground", after the ride on the "elevator".

There is a real mine tour in Lakawana PA.  I should do it as my grandfather was a coal miner.   I did the tour of the silver mine in Park City UT.   At the time they were keeping it "ready" in case the price of silver rose.  The miners that gave the tour really liked being miners.  What I remember most was the elevator cable was braided steel and they said the miners braided it.  It was a flat braid, maybe a foot wide.

Today was the first day in a week and half my neck felt halfway decent.  I slept the wrong way and woke up with pain that was probably a disk, as it was worse when I coughed.  The odd thing was it was right sided pain, I previously have had multiple issues with left sided pain, but never right.  Usually I can abort it with a short and small dose of steroids.  No such luck this time.  I could blame my moderation on steroid psychosis, but I will only say that one night I did not sleep at all and was not tired!.  But hungry?  If I had a condition where I needed daily steroids, I would way 1000 pounds.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, April 11, 2019 8:15 PM

I had another great day in Georgia.

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I made it to Blue Ox Trains in Roswell, another train store I have never visited before. I found a few really good treasures and a whole bunch of undecorated Blue Box Athearn freight cars for $6.00 each. This is a great place to go treasure hunting. Lots of old items in like new condition at reasonable prices. A very fun place.

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Then I drove to Buford, Georgia for a quick stop in the Trainmaster on Main Street. I have been to Trainmaster dozens of times. It is one of my favorite hobby shops. Their selection of used items was pretty slim today, and treasure hunting in there was sparse. I bought all the NWSL itmes they had on the shelf... but it was not much.

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Then I tried a steakhouse in Buford called Bare Bones... EXCELLENT! I had a USDA Prime New York Strip Steak cooked rare over a wood fired grille, and it was perfect. The sides were all very good too, especially the macaroni and cheese with bacon.

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Things have been going great this week. I think this might be one of my best weeks ever.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:19 PM

Beware and be warned, all visitors to Chicago this weekend, there is a huge Star Wars convention in town.

Just heard about it on my local news. (Milwaukee, WI.)

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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:27 PM

 Evening Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer please and leave a stein outside for Ulrich.

 Lion Was that you reading the book about Pearl Harbor?

 Just don't feel like posting so later.

 Ken

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:39 PM

Hey Russ,

Those freight tunnels are cool!

Thanks,

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

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Posted by GeePee35 on Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:21 PM

Hey All!

Good Morning, Good Night, good afternoon, sometin lie dat!

I'm back!

I sarted a new part time job...night auditor at a hotel. so i work 11pm-7am {or 2300-0700 for you military folks.}

Its only 2 days {nights} a week, but it is messing up my schedule, though I slept most of today, because I could! nothng to do daytime today.

Garry: ony those who look at ARP as a poliical group, think of it that way. WE belong, have for many years now, and thnk of it as discount giving, health care plan alternative, thing. Its worth the $16/yr to us to get the discount and for me to have stable supplemental health insirance to my medicare. there is N OTHING political about gettig a discount, its just a discount. if giving/getting discounts is political, the AAA is political too. So is coupon clipping.

And we eat often at Denny's {when we eat out...rare, but often enough to save us the membership fee}, just down the road from us, and use our AARP discount on top of the discunted senior menu or the $2,$4,$6,$8 menu. Its not to many places 2 can eat for $10 or under.

We have eaten at cracker barrel, it was good, but prefer not to because we don't like their discrimination policies. I'll leave that there.

I, too wish Ulrich would come back, he is sorely missed. I wrote him {not through here} so maybe I'll hear back. He has such back luck, if it weren't for bad luck, hed have no luck at all, gloom despair and agony on him.

At work now. It's really boring, but its a slow pace this old body can take. So, I'm not complaining. on;y thing is geting tired by shifts end, and my back bothering me, I have to pump out breakfast too. So, no relaxing at shift end. I start breakfast tomorrow morning, but will have a relief show up at 6 am, so that is good. At least I hope she shows up......

well, thats about all for now.

 

my life is boring compared to some of you!

 

thoughts and prayers for all who need them.

 

QUOTE OF HTE DAY:

 

"You don't need a reason to help people". {anon}

 

Geeked

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:58 PM

GP35 / Galaxy ... I’m delighted to see you here. ... If you like Aarp , I won’t say anymore about it.  ... We get good discounts without it. .... best wishes with the job .  ... I agree about Ulrich and pray for him and Petra. Hopefully he will somehow find his was back to the Diner eventually .  Stay happy. 

 

 

GARRY

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, April 12, 2019 12:36 AM

Hi gang,

Please educate one of your Canadian brethern. What is the AARP?

Thanks,

Dave

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Posted by Weighmaster on Friday, April 12, 2019 2:47 AM

The AARP is the American Association of Retired People.  I will not join...Gary

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, April 12, 2019 4:27 AM

This sure looks like a model, doesn't it?

 Burlington by Edmund, on Flickr

1963 near Aurora, Illinois.

Regards, Ed

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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, April 12, 2019 7:10 AM

Good Morning All,

   48 and drizzly this morning. I'll have a regular to go please Chloe.  Good to see Galaxy in the diner. 

GeePee 35, you still in upstate (or Southern Tier or whatever)? I was out of the diner for so long catching up on posts was a nonstarter.  

  Too much to do today for a sit down.   Catch Y'all later, J.R.

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Posted by Erie1951 on Friday, April 12, 2019 8:03 AM

hon30critter
Hey Russ,

Those freight tunnels are cool!

Thanks,

Dave

Thanks, Dave! There's a small book entitled "Forty Feet Below" the freight tunnels and is available from Amazon and eBay. I recommend it for a more in-depth explanation and history.

Russ

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, April 12, 2019 8:20 AM

Good morning, everybody .

Russ .... I did not know about the Chicago freight tunnels even though I grew up in the Chicago area. 

Ed ... That's a nice photo of a CB&Q passenger train. 

Below is another Burlington train with four E-units running "elephant style" . Burlington had many E-units (E5, E7, E8, and E9). Except for some E5B's, all were A-units. This train is the combined Nebraska Zephyr, Kansas City Zephyr, and mail/express train. 

 

GARRY

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Posted by Steven Otte on Friday, April 12, 2019 9:13 AM

It seems the Diner's been pretty slow lately. Maybe we need a good lunch special to get customers in the door. Flo, why don'tcha write up on that chalkboard that today's special is a Chicago-style Italian beef. Mmmm, look at all those juicy peppers. Yummy.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Friday, April 12, 2019 9:46 AM

Good-Morning from (Still Winter Wonderland)Sad

Thanks Steve-O.  Mighty tasty.  I remember having something like that the last time I was in Chicago.

An interesting topic of conversation yesterday was why the sleet in Minnesota was tan in color.  Apparently the dust, from the dust storms in Texas made its way up here, blending into the mix of things in the atmosphere over the Midwest.

Thanks guys for all the Chicago railroad pictures.  EnjoyedYes

TF

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Friday, April 12, 2019 9:52 AM

Good morning from the Southern Command,

Today starts stop one one the wife's book tour. We are at the Juke Joint festival this weekend , A large Blues festival in Clarksdale Mississippi. 

Her book was supposed to come out in May, but it was early and arrived in the warehouse in March.

 

Her book is a biography of a well known blues manager, He was manager of Buddy Guy, Junior Wells, Son House and others. He discovered and managed Bonnie Raitt. I don't want this to be an ad but I am proud of Mrs MLC acomplisment. This is not a book that will make anyone rich, but it is still a big deal in the MLC household.

 

I will see the small shortline RR here that runs on Ex-IC lines. 

 

talk to you all later.

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Posted by Eilif on Friday, April 12, 2019 10:29 AM

You guys are killing me with the georgeous E and F unit pics!

I've been trying so hard to stay within my 80'-00's Chicago setting but it's hard.  I've already put together budget vintage Rock Island Rocket and Daylight passenger consists just to test the waters and it seems like every other day I'm confronted with another great deal on a shiny streamlined passenger set.  Resisting....

Got a nice Chicago area loco in the mail yesterday but I'll post it in the appropriate thread.

 

The Chicago Freight tunnels are facinating. Many of them still exist but from what I understand, some were closed, filled or blocked after the river broke through one and cause major flooding. I remember seeing it on the news when I was a kid.  It was a big deal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_flood

 

 

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Friday, April 12, 2019 10:56 AM

I have the book, The Chicago Tunnel Story

 

Very good book

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, April 12, 2019 11:09 AM

cudaken
Lion Was that you reading the book about Pearl Harbor?

 

Yeah, dat's da LION before him became a monk.  Here is another oldie but goodie...

 

ROAR

 

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, April 12, 2019 3:05 PM

Hello everyone —

Another weekend is upon us.

I scanned and uploaded a Burlington Zephyr brochure from 1939 which has some great photos and a description of the train.

 Zephyr by Edmund, on Flickr

You can see the complete album here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gmpullman/albums/72157708128596274/with/40628573213/

Enjoy, Ed

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, April 12, 2019 4:24 PM

I ate at Cracker Barrel once.  Dirty silverway puts you right off.  The people at the next table ordered the bacon, sausage, egg, pancake, cheesy potato, fried apple, biscuit special.  It was like the Monty Python movie, except no one exploded.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Friday, April 12, 2019 4:50 PM

I've eaten at the Cracker Barrel a couple times.  I would have to say it's a few notches up on the totem pole from Denny's. 

I think you may have to know what you're after from somebody's else's suggestion, before you get there.  Otherwise you may end up with a rather motley contraption HenryLaugh 

Hit and miss.  Like all these places, it depends what cook is on that day.  You're rolling the dice.

Judy and I wanted a quick easy fix for breakfast the other morning.  We ordered off the budget menu at Denny's.  She got the $4, I got the $6.  We got out of there for 11,  14 with the tip.

It filled the hole but I'm in no hurry to go back.  I may have developed better tastes for food as I've aged.  Well,... you know the saying.  You get what you pay for.

Wink    TF

 

PS       Congrats on Mrs MLC's book MLC!   Yes 

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, April 12, 2019 6:12 PM

 Afternoon Diners

 Flo, get the gang and I a Beer please and leave a stein outside for Ulrich.

 Galaxy Good to hear from you again. I keep forgetting your new site name.

 Lion I wonder what you look like now? Whistling

 Lack Of Health Front. Well I am starting to do something about it!

 1 I have cut my smoking down by about half this week. I was smoking around 38 to 45 cigarette's a day. I am now around 22 to 28 a day. I know I know, I need to stop cold turkey but it is a start. Next time I am at the VA I'am going to ask for some help stopping.

 2 Today while I was doing my running in my car for 2 hours I did not have a single cigarette! That was a mile stone for me!

 3 Starting to ride my exercise bike after 19 years again. While I am taking baby steps for the last 3 days I have ridden it. I am not pushing my self but every day just a tad longer.

 After having bronchitis last September my lungs have not been the same. Sigh

 Later, Ken

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