Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Jeffreys Track Side Diner - MARCH, 2019: Upstate New York Locked

25138 views
591 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    February 2008
  • 8,818 posts
Posted by maxman on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:49 AM

They have an RS3 on display in Schenectady.  I beklieve it's the same one that was being displayed when I started working for GE back about 1970.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2361/2505795238_d7348891e9_z.jpg

  • Member since
    January 2017
  • 2,980 posts
Posted by NWP SWP on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:40 AM

Goodmorning guys!

Hey Ed, wow a lots changed at Schenectady since the golden days!

Just haven't been in the posting mood lately.

Heres what I've been up to finally went to the gastroenterologist, I'm waiting to do the testing (a scan, lab work, and a scope), I'm going to a prom at the end of the month (no I sadly do not have a date), I'm waiting for a buddy to help me pull the trans out of my truck (hes just started dating a girl so hes been busy on the weekends), then Bayou Rail Run is this weekend (BRR is an operators weekend that the MSMRC, CCMRC, and a local layout owner host), now I've also been trying to jump through all the hoops to start working at the Y, and I've been working as many hours as I can at the hotel to pay for the trans in my truck and I'm buying a tux for the Prom, I'm buying instead of renting one cause I've got a friends sisters wedding this summer and my sisters wedding is this fall. And I've been studying for the SAT the math is what I'm most concerned with.

Oh and I just found out my favorite band Bleachers is playing Jazz Fest in NOLA at the end of April, naturally I'll be going to that.

I sadly have no train progress to report, when I find time I'll finally get that heavy gon finished.

I'll try to be posting a bit more often.

Steve

If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!

  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,367 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 9:20 AM

Good Morning from chilly NE Ohio.

Woke up to a crisp 4°F (-16) and Sunday is already Daylight Savings Time for most of US?

GMTRacing
 I love the upstate area especially on the Hudson and of course the main Alco factory was just above Troy in Schenectedy.

Young Steven was asking about the old Alco plant in Schenectady a few months back and I took a look on Google to see what was left.

Not much it turns out:

 Alco_site5 by Edmund, on Flickr

I wonder if the people working in that building today know about the rich history and beautiful machines that were once created within its hallowed walls?

 

 Alco_remains by Edmund, on Flickr

I highlighted the building in blue.

Speaking of Yound Steven SWP-NWP, I wonder what's been keeping him so busy lately? Hello, Steven! 

No mention of the M-R April issue with its "special" hidden treasure? I found it yesterday while paging through the issue. Usually someone makes a thread about it.

Well, time to fill the bird feeders. The bluebirds have been visiting lately. They must really be hungry as they usually feast on insects and it is a bit cool outside to find an insect.

Cheers, everyone! I hope things take a turn for the better for the folks who are up against it Angel

Regards, Ed

  • Member since
    April 2018
  • From: 53° 33′ N, 10° 0′ E
  • 2,508 posts
Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 8:50 AM

Good Afternoon!

Is it April already? We have had just any type of weather within the last hour - from heavy rain to snowfall to a thunderstorm and now back to being sunny again! Weird!

CNCharlie - I am sorry to hear about not being a happy camper these days. I am in the same mood - I´ve lost all interest in trains, in fact not only in trains. I am somehow just dragging along, fighting for sleep at night and trying to stay awake during the day.

Our search for a new place seems to lead us into the nirvana, but not to a place we can picture living in for the rest of our days. Our hope to find a decent place in the kind of lovely town called Görlitz doesn´t materialize. The apartments available in our price range are usually top floor and Petra and I won´t be able to climb 6 flights of stairs! The way things are turning in this country we´d rather go away than stay. I am too old to be involved in the civil war which is ahead of us.

Here is a little bit of humor for the folks that could use some cheering up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASoD9xMUxs0

And some NY train stuff:

Have a good one!

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Kentucky
  • 10,660 posts
Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 8:28 AM

Brent .... I like the photo of the CP passenger train. Your lights on the roundhouse look very good. 

JR ..... Your FL trip sounds very interesting. 

Bear .... That was very funny. 

Richard .... A late happy birthday to your wife. 

CN Charlie .... I'm sorry to hear your wife has trouble sleeping at night. .... My wife has a condition which keeps her from going to sleep, and it is called "book reading". 

 

Today, I'll be working on taxes. Yet another distraction from model trains. 

GARRY

HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR

EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Kentucky
  • 10,660 posts
Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 8:22 AM

MARTIN STATION

 

 
Heartland Division CB&Q

Howdy, everybody .. 

We just returned home from Nashville, TN. .... As expected, inbound lanes of I-24 are still closed because of last week's major mudslide. When we drove back on the poutbound side, we could see a lot of construction equipemnts being used with many floodlights .. Looks like they have a lot of work remaining. 

 

 
MARTIN STATION

Hey Gerry,

   I also went to the train show in Evansville, IN. Looked to me like they had a really good turn out, lots of people there. After that me and the wife headed south of Henderson, KY to the Farmer and Frenchman for lunch. We crossed those same twin bridges you did and you're right, the flooding was really bad, some of the worst I have seen in awhile.

 

 

 

 

Martin ..... Thanks for commenting, and it is good of you to visit the Diner. .. Feel free to post here again. .... I know of people who live near Henderson. They say deer who normally are in their habitat near the river have moced inland. The abundance of deer is a problem. .... We live in the Land Between the Lakes area of Western KY. Where are you from ? 

Everybody else..... Hopefully I can catch up tomorrow. 

Cheers. 

 

 

 

Gerry, I live just west of Evansville. Maybe I will see you at the fall show that will be held at the same place. 

 

Ralph

 

 

Ralph .... We will probably go back next time. Our group was 3 model railroaders who live here at the lake. Retired guys. We go to Henderson, KY and have donuts and coffee at "The Donut Bank", and then we go to the train show. .... Meanwhile, feel free to visit with people here in the Diner. 

 

 

GARRY

HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR

EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU

  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: New Milford, Ct
  • 3,232 posts
Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6:16 AM

Good Morning All,

    Back from 80F Florida to 10F Connecticut. Trip south went ok. Testing at Palm Beach International showed an issue with the new motor in the Lotus23 so I spent the time trying to fix it before parking the car after second practice at Sebring the week after. With the spare motor not back, I had limited options so when the truck gets back today or tomorrow it's out with the motor and back to the engine builder. Usually his stuff is flawless but we got caught out this time as the problem was excessive oil temp and didn't show until we got a long run in. The rest went fine with the Audi R-8 and other cars we brought to test. The owner of the Devin SS we brought down had to cancel Sebring due to medical issues but the cars we did run did well. We blocked out the front row in qualifying and the R-8 won both sprint races and the hour and a half race we in Historic racing call an enduro. Got lucky and did both mandatory pitstops under full course cautions so we ended up winning the enduro by two laps. The LMPC car we brought down did well also though that car qualifying and finishing second, was delayed with a flat and had to pit under green flag conditions and wasn't a factor after that. All in all a reasonable trip though not getting to run the 23 was annoying. 

   I love the upstate area especially on the Hudson and of course the main Alco factory was just above Troy in Schenectedy. The run from NYC to Montreal along Lake Champlain is also a great trip especially running a long distance along the cliffs of the west side of the lake.

Time to get back to the shop and pick up tools.  CUL, J.R.

  • Member since
    August 2011
  • From: A Comfy Cave, New Zealand
  • 6,220 posts
Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:30 AM

Snow. by Bear, on Flickr

"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Bradford, Ontario
  • 15,797 posts
Posted by hon30critter on Monday, March 4, 2019 9:24 PM

gmpullman
Here are some soldering tips from those folks: https://www.ngineering.com/micro_wiring.htm#LEDtool

Hi Ed,

I bought the Ngineering clip mechanism some time ago but I have never seen the 'how to' tutorial. I was able to make it work but not as neatly as what the instructions show. Thanks for posting!

For those who might be interested, here is a link to the actual tool. Scroll down a bit:

https://ngineering.com/other_cool_tools.htm

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Bradford, Ontario
  • 15,797 posts
Posted by hon30critter on Monday, March 4, 2019 9:12 PM

CNCharlie
I'm not in a happy place.  CN Charlie

I can't help much with mere words, but I think you know that we are all supporting you.

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

  • Member since
    August 2007
  • 2,109 posts
Posted by CNCharlie on Monday, March 4, 2019 7:19 PM

Good Evening,

Well I boxed up the N scale RS18 along with a half dozen pieces of rolling stock to take out to the hobby shop for consignment sale. Wondering if I should include the 2-6-6-2 as I don't run it much. It is a nice loco but sure can't pull much

CN Charlie

  • Member since
    October 2011
  • 273 posts
Posted by MARTIN STATION on Monday, March 4, 2019 6:48 PM

Heartland Division CB&Q

Howdy, everybody .. 

We just returned home from Nashville, TN. .... As expected, inbound lanes of I-24 are still closed because of last week's major mudslide. When we drove back on the poutbound side, we could see a lot of construction equipemnts being used with many floodlights .. Looks like they have a lot of work remaining. 

 

 
MARTIN STATION

Hey Gerry,

   I also went to the train show in Evansville, IN. Looked to me like they had a really good turn out, lots of people there. After that me and the wife headed south of Henderson, KY to the Farmer and Frenchman for lunch. We crossed those same twin bridges you did and you're right, the flooding was really bad, some of the worst I have seen in awhile.

 

 

 

 

Martin ..... Thanks for commenting, and it is good of you to visit the Diner. .. Feel free to post here again. .... I know of people who live near Henderson. They say deer who normally are in their habitat near the river have moced inland. The abundance of deer is a problem. .... We live in the Land Between the Lakes area of Western KY. Where are you from ? 

Everybody else..... Hopefully I can catch up tomorrow. 

Cheers. 

 

Gerry, I live just west of Evansville. Maybe I will see you at the fall show that will be held at the same place. 

Ralph

  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Maryville IL
  • 9,577 posts
Posted by cudaken on Monday, March 4, 2019 6:31 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang and Ia Beer please.

 As Much As I Like Winter I am getting a Little Sick Of This One! Today high was 18 degrees Fahrenheit and it is now 16 F.

 Cleaning out the garage. Got a little more done today and then I ran into a box Iam a little torn about throwing away. They are old awards I won while I was working for Mattress Giant. I worked hard to win the awards. Have never displayed them here in the Garage / Train Room in 8 years. So my rule of thumb is I don't need them. Yet I have other awards from 30 years ago on display? Hum, maybe I should make some room for them.

 Richard Tell your wife Happy B-Day from my family!

 Later Ken

I hate Rust

  • Member since
    April 2002
  • From: Paducah KY
  • 1,183 posts
Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Monday, March 4, 2019 2:54 PM

You use one of those soldering helping hands gizmos to hold your LED and your wire. 

  • Member since
    December 2012
  • From: Mesa, AZ
  • 1,530 posts
Posted by RideOnRoad on Monday, March 4, 2019 2:33 PM

Today is my wife's birthday. My dad always tells her, her birthday is the only day that is a verb. (The march fourth thing.)

Richard

  • Member since
    April 2002
  • From: Paducah KY
  • 1,183 posts
Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Monday, March 4, 2019 2:19 PM

Just set me under the soft serve ice cream machine and I will be good.

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: 4610 Metre's North of the Fortyninth on the left coast of Canada
  • 9,352 posts
Posted by BATMAN on Monday, March 4, 2019 2:17 PM

gmpullman
BATMAN I made various gizmos to hold the LED and or wire to no avail. I admire your determination to use those tiny SMD devices, Brent  I buy nearly all my tiny chip LEDs with the wires already attached. Life's too short! The few times that I have soldered SMDs I used these little flat-billed alligator clips to hold the device. They also help to reduce the heat of the soldering iron (heat sink) https://www.amazon.com/Toothless-Alligator-Copper-Plated-Microscopic/dp/B0187MIUU4/ref=sr_1_28?keywords=flat+alligator+clips&qid=1551724120&s=gateway&sr=8-28 I s

I love a good challenge Ed, besides I bought 'em and I'm using them.GrumpyLaugh

Those toothless alligator clips are great, I have some in different sizes, have no idea where they came from but they are mine now.Pirate My wife has a vast array of surgical clamps of all sorts that also come in handy. I also have a bunch of these in different sizes that I use a lot, I think they are called binder clamps.

Related image

Well, all my handyman stuff is up to date, Today's jobs were; Our front entrance hall is 16' high with a window up at the top, so I got that all cleaned up and thoroughly cleaned the chandelier that is also way up there. I fixed the power head on the vacuum as it was shorting out (broken wire) Had that one done 5 minutes after the wife screamed I have been electrocuted. I put all new weather stripping around the front door as it just fell to pieces the other day, had to take the door off for that one, either I am getting old or the door has gained a lot of weight. Our three car garage is clean and tidy, I washed the floor twice, I just had to do the last finishing touches. So now there is nothing left to do that can be done, so back to the trainroom. 

cover photo, Image may contain: sky and outdoor

Brent

"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."

  • Member since
    April 2018
  • From: 53° 33′ N, 10° 0′ E
  • 2,508 posts
Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, March 4, 2019 1:45 PM

Heartland Division CB&Q
March Forth.

I am getting slow - it took me some thinking to understand!

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Kentucky
  • 10,660 posts
Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, March 4, 2019 1:21 PM

By the way, Everybody.

Happy Soldiers Day.

March Forth. 

GARRY

HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR

EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU

  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,367 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Monday, March 4, 2019 12:34 PM

BATMAN
I made various gizmos to hold the LED and or wire to no avail.

I admire your determination to use those tiny SMD devices, Brent Whistling

I buy nearly all my tiny chip LEDs with the wires already attached. Life's too short!

The few times that I have soldered SMDs I used these little flat-billed alligator clips to hold the device. They also help to reduce the heat of the soldering iron (heat sink)

https://www.amazon.com/Toothless-Alligator-Copper-Plated-Microscopic/dp/B0187MIUU4/ref=sr_1_28?keywords=flat+alligator+clips&qid=1551724120&s=gateway&sr=8-28

I soldered these clips to about 8" lengths of #10 copper wire and these act like bendable supports.

I put over a hundred 0604 LEDs in my roundhouse and they were all pre-wired. They came from WeHonest. I see their prices have gone up quite a bit. When I bought them they were about a dime each.

 RH_lamp2 by Edmund, on Flickr

I think in another thread I mentioned those crazy-tiny Ngineering goose neck lamps. Again, the ones from WeHonest suited me just fine. My Ngineering ones are still in the bag, I think. I can't see them but I think they're still there.

Here are some soldering tips from those folks:

https://www.ngineering.com/micro_wiring.htm#LEDtool

 

Good Luck, Ed

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: 4610 Metre's North of the Fortyninth on the left coast of Canada
  • 9,352 posts
Posted by BATMAN on Monday, March 4, 2019 11:22 AM

Good morning from the West Coast, it is sunny and 0c. Our gas consumption has been huge for the last month or so as the temps have been about 10c (20f) lower than usual. 

I spent a lot of time trying to solder LEDs (603s) to some #38 wire yesterday and was not having much success. I made various gizmos to hold the LED and or wire to no avail. It's a good thing I don't get very frustrated when things don't go well, it only makes me more determined to make it work. Anyway, the solution I came across was taping the LED to some double sided tape to hold the LED and using a clothespeg to hold the wire. We are now ready to start mass production as it worked really well. 

I mentioned my friend earlier that had health issues related to his obesity. His diet was awful, he lived on pop, deli-meat, coffee and potato chips. I asked him if he had normal blood pressure and someone suggested he took pills to give him high Blood pressure what would he think? Of course, he thought that was crazy. So I told him to stop drinking coffee, pop and anything else with caffeine it and eating meat and other food with preservatives in them. He did and his blood pressure dropped like a stone and he went off his BP meds.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/sodium-nitrate/faq-20057848

Makes you wonder why people like to spend good money on meds when they just need to change their diet in some cases.

Even though he was obese he was still capable of long hikes and other activities as he was active, but now he is skinny again he is really enjoying life.

It is handyman day.

All the best to all.

 

Brent

"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."

  • Member since
    August 2007
  • 2,109 posts
Posted by CNCharlie on Monday, March 4, 2019 11:21 AM

Good Morning,

Brent, nice photo of a Selkirk. Do you have a model of one? I think Sunset came out with one a couple of years ago. 

Well I did the repair, some plaster just behind the kitchen tap but according to the Boss, I didn't do a perfect job, so not good enough. She said she would do it so fine with me. I thought it was a big improvement but what do I know.  Seems I can't do much that is right lately, actually nothing. 

Not doing much since I got up, wife is back to bed as she only slept about an hour last night. She has sleep problems so rarely is up before noon. 

Wish I could get motivated about my railroad. I would just like to sell the N scale and may just whittle it down more as there isn't a market for a 'door' layout. It would be a dumpster case. I could sell off more rolling stock and a few engines so that I only have a couple of engines and enough rolling stock to fill the sidings. 

As you can probably guess I'm not in a happy place. 

CN Charlie

 

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: North Dakota
  • 9,592 posts
Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, March 4, 2019 11:18 AM

 

YEAH! LION is on the top! Wild rare wildebeest for all!

Yorkshire pudding and creamed spinich!

 

Much better than leftover roadkill.

 

ROAR

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: North Dakota
  • 9,592 posts
Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, March 4, 2019 11:17 AM

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: North Dakota
  • 9,592 posts
Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, March 4, 2019 11:16 AM

ROARING

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

  • Member since
    April 2018
  • From: 53° 33′ N, 10° 0′ E
  • 2,508 posts
Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, March 4, 2019 10:08 AM

RideOnRoad
Tinplate Toddler
. . .I am getting ready to sell my layout - I hope I get a fair amount for it!. . .

 Does this mean you have a prospective buyer? Good luck!

 

I wish I had, but not yet! I have advertised it in a tinplate train forum. It usually takes quite some time to sell a layout.

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"

  • Member since
    December 2012
  • From: Mesa, AZ
  • 1,530 posts
Posted by RideOnRoad on Monday, March 4, 2019 9:56 AM

Tinplate Toddler
. . .I am getting ready to sell my layout - I hope I get a fair amount for it!. . .

Does this mean you have a prospective buyer? Good luck!

Richard

  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,367 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Monday, March 4, 2019 7:48 AM

Good Monday Morning —

I hope this finds everyone well. I also hope no one here was directly affected by the tornados and nasty weather that affected areas of Alabama and Georgia. 

I had mentioned the Gulf Curve wreck in an earlier reply. I've always been interested in studying disasters such as this. Similar to three recent accidents where overspeed was the cause — the 2017 Amtrak Cascades wreck in Tacoma, Washington and the 2015 Frankford Curve wreck near Philadelphia, and the   2013 Metro North Spuyten Duyvil curve accident. Memorable, too, was the 1947 wreck of the PRR's Red Arrow on Bennington curve, also caused by entering the curve at too great a speed for the conditions. These are what I would describe as "head-scratchers" since, presumably trained and seasoned railroaders had been operating trains for years and certainly should have reduced the speed as necessary for that degree of curvature. Little Falls, New York is 73.49 miles west of Albany.


 

ACCIDENT OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD


LITTLE FALLS, N. Y.


APRIL 19, 1940

 

INVESTIGATION NO. 2423 SUMMARY:


Railroad: New York Central
Date: April 19, 1940
Location: Little Falls, N. Y.
Kind of accident: Derailment
Train involved: Passenger
Train number: 19
Engine number: 5315
Consist: 15 cars
Speed: 59 m.p.h.
Operation: Automatic block-signal and automatic train-stop system
Track: Four; 7 degree 24’curve; ascending grade westward
Time: 11:33 p.m.
Weather: Cloudy
Casualties: 31 killed; 51 injured
Cause: Excessive speed on sharp curve combined with a run-in of slack resulting from throttle being closed suddenly.


 

 Valley2_1 by Edmund, on Flickr

Another head-scratcher was the fact that the Road Foreman was riding in the cab that night. Did he distract the engineer? He was the only survivor of any of the head-end employees.

 

If anyone is interested I can add more photos and information. Please chime in if you have an interest.

The New York central, in a huge undertaking, realigned the main line here some years later and reduced the cruvature of the track.

Cheers, Ed

  • Member since
    April 2018
  • From: 53° 33′ N, 10° 0′ E
  • 2,508 posts
Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, March 4, 2019 7:12 AM

Good Afternoon!

I took a nap since I didn´t sleep much last night. Something is keeping me awake lately and it is not only my aching back!

GP35 - I can relate to that situation. I am no midget either, but I remember a flight I got stuck in a middle seat between to "elephants". Both also apparently didn´t know how to use a shower, just to make things worse! That flight was no fun!

I am getting ready to sell my layout - I hope I get a fair amount for it!

Have a good one!

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"

  • Member since
    February 2019
  • 9 posts
Posted by GeePee35 on Monday, March 4, 2019 6:10 AM

Good Morning! {Or as Ulrich might say: Guten Morgen}

Hope this finds all of you well, oops I see one of is sick and in bed.

 

The following is not pointing any fingers and may be offensive to some,it is NOT meant to be {as you'll see i'm in there too}but I'd like an opinion {you may have already seen it}:

I saw an article about a man who booked a flight. This NOT hypothetical, it really happened. He booked An aisle seat on the 2 seater row for a 5 hour flight across country. The man who took the window seat was er, um, no delicate way to put it, but F A T. He was wide as well {#2}, and took up 1/3 the first man's {#1} seat. #1 called it to the attention of the stewardess, who checked and they had no seats available for the fat man to have 2 seats together, they were sold out. SO #1 says to the #2 "if you compensate me $150 {half my ticket}, I'll make do with your body overage into my seat". Man #2 gladly pays it as he could not take a later flight where he could have two seats together, which is what the airline wanted him to do...

The story went viral, and many called #1 a word I cannot print here due to forum rules, but starts with an "a". A Major one, not just one. I am sure many who called him that are also w i d e.

Now I am sure someof us on here are wider than others, amd some of us were heavy, but, like me, have lost{I lost 80 pounds} and may face the same situation. Now I"m still overweight, but I never was W I D E, I was all up front "ball belly", and could get the seat belt buckled under my flab. SO what do you all think? was the guy a jerk? WOULD YOU want  a F A T person encroaching on yourself in a plane? {regardless of how wide you are?} I realize the seats are only 18" wide,and they want to make them/or are now only 16" wide {and they definitely have NO plans to W i d e n the seats} , but that is a little unrealistic.  SO what would YOU do in such a situation? I'm inclined to agree with the squeezed out man...if you cannot sit in the seat without "spillover", then you need two seats and should pay for them both, or at least 1/2 the fare of that seat, but the plane companies will never go for that, they want full fare for the seat.

I've HAD to sit next to a f a t person before who spilled over into my seat, was very uncomfortable and at the time, and she smelled to boot, thnak goodness it was only a 3 hour flight I weighed a whole 140 pounds,had a 29" waist.

I also have, as a heavy guy{who was all belly} had the "luxury" of a w i d e person sit next to me, who had spillover into my seat, so the armrest could not be put down.

So do you think #1 was a jerk? DO you think #2 should have been made to take teh later flight anyway with two seats paid for? Do you think it was just fair for #2 to compensate #1?

 

On another note, snow today, gone sunday Maybe, heat wave of 40f!!, really cold in between. Not as cold as other territoriesa, and I see CNCHARLIE has enlightened us to the temps up there in the fair nrthern territories of the continent.

On another note...spring is coming and have you ordered your seeds or plants yet? I'm thinking about it. my Other half {OH} and I argue over what we should order. I WIll surprise my OH with a few rose bushes for my OH s birthday, which is mid April, they wont arrive until end of April or MAy, though.

 

Ok, I will get going.....have an interview to go to. Probably won't get it. You watch. No one wants to hire the guy with a cane in hand.

HAve a great day, and special thoughts and prayers to everyone

 

GeePee35, formerly known as Galaxy

 

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!