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Jeffreys Trackside Diner, January 2018 at Tehachapi Loop Locked

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Posted by FRRYKid on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:04 PM

NWP SWP

Shame with terrorism, lawsuits, insurance, ect... you just can't do things like that or take a self guided "tour" of a yard, ect...

Not an active yard, but when I was in Duluth last summer, the Lake Superior Railroad Museum was nice enough to let me climb on one of their exhibits to do some measuring on it. An NP SD45 that they have.

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Model railroads: ... Who has projects they are working on or are about to work on ? 

I've got a few.

The NP SW1200. (The loco for the new yard. See below.) Painted over the lettering I wasn't able to remove and I wasn't able to find an NP stock model. (LL P2K) Also got the replacement handrails installed. (The original ones were the stock plastic and were warped beyond use.) Brass wire, DA eyebolts, a couple of toothpicks and some CA. Need to hit them in a couple spots where I missed with the first coat. The spark arrestors are on order. Need to get the beacon next. (The prototype is a little different so I think I have the right one lined up.) I need to hit a few of handrails with my NP Yellow to get them correct as well. I will wait a bit until it warms up to do the decals.

Another one is the NP caboose. I need to get the new windows cut. (It is a KB from a pair of Athearn cupola caboose.) The paint will need to be ordered when it warms up. (Latex paint and cold don't mix.)

The major project is yet another expansion. I almost have enough pieces to get the yard built. I ended up having to plan a corner for room purposes. (So I wasn't jutting out into the walkway.) The corner is a modified NMRA corner module. one side is 24" to match the car shop side and the other is 28" to join to the doors. The framework is planned to be purchased the 12th and delivered to the ranch on the 13th. Also have some curves, terminal joiners, and a couple of turnouts on order for the yard. I also will need to order a couple more sheets of cork as well. (Wasn't planning on the corner when I ordered the cork the first time.) I figure that it will take a few weeks to get everything built. (And yes, I will take lot of pictures.)

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Posted by Steven Otte on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:31 PM

howmus

 

 
gmpullman
Sometimes there's a problem with ampersands, guillemets, tildes and apostrophes in thread titles as the html code doesn't like it and you get a lot of silly gibberish.

 

Ah, yes...  I have seen that from time to time...  Interesting that the code can't seem to handle that.

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It works fine the first time you post it. But if you edit the post, it passes the unicode (all that ampersand gibberish) back to the editor, which works fine for displaying in a web browser, but the editor, literal-minded thing that it is, re-uploads it as if those were characters, not code. So when editing a post with a special character in the subjectline, you have to be sure to edit the subjectline to make it appear how you originally typed it. Then it will work.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:22 PM

gmpullman
Sometimes there's a problem with ampersands, guillemets, tildes and apostrophes in thread titles as the html code doesn't like it and you get a lot of silly gibberish.

Ah, yes...  I have seen that from time to time...  Interesting that the code can't seem to handle that.

73

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:14 PM

howmus
LOL, but you still are missing the apostrophy.....  Jeffrey's (Possesive) not Jeffreys!

Sometimes there's a problem with ampersands, guillemets, tildes and apostrophes in thread titles as the html code doesn't like it and you get a lot of silly gibberish.

Sometimes Mr. Otte fixes it — sometimes not.

Hi, Jimmy!

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:34 PM

NWP SWP
I put Jefferys not Jeffreys...

LOL, but you still are missing the apostrophy.....  Jeffrey's (Possesive) not Jeffreys!

Sorry the old teacher instinct just had to jerk your chain.... Smile, Wink & Grin

Be Blessed!

73

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:19 PM

Now I see the error of my ways...

I put Jefferys not Jeffreys...

I thought the problem was Jeffreys/Jefferys vs Jefferies/Jeffries...

My bad... 

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:18 PM

Hey all.  Sup. 

(My Model Railroad, My Rules) 

These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway.  As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).  

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:07 PM

moelarrycurly4

"Jeffrey's"

It is possesive

Yep!  That is correct.  That is the word from an old Music Teacher who only lacked 3 credit hours to be certified as an English Teacher!

The Diner belongs to Jeffrey (not Jeffery...) aka Running Bear. 

Now you know why I cringe with certain posts that completely destroy the English Language....  LOL.  But the main thing here is that we do understand each other, so I tend to forgive those who butcher the language.  I was told once in College at Eastman by one of my education teachers that she was going to make sure I didn't graduate until I could correctly spell Rhythm!  I did, BTW. Whistling

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:57 PM

"Jeffrey's"

It is possesive.

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Posted by Clutch_Cargo on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:48 PM

Making a mistake is one thing. Reacting belligerently when it is pointed out is another. It seems you have much to learn about grammar _and_ humility, young buck.

NWP SWP
I put Jeffreys

No, you didn't. Check the thread title. And it's still wrong ... no apostrophe.

NWP SWP
And is it really all that disrespectful to simply not have the "correct" punctuation/spelling?

Yes.

But hey, I'm not a Diner guy. So if the long timers don't care about Jeff's memory, so be it. Darned shame.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:36 PM

Afternoon diners,

Couldn't sleep last night so I got to typing a bit of history for my railroad I posted it in a thread in the General Discussion forum, please check it out... 

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:20 PM

I put Jeffreys not Jeffries because that like story's vs stories one is possessive the other plural are there multiple Jeffries? Correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I learnt it (<purposely misspelt learned) Smile, Wink & Grin

And is it really all that disrespectful to simply not have the "correct" punctuation/spelling? It's not like it's Jeffs trackside diner... Just sayin' Whistling

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Posted by Clutch_Cargo on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:27 PM

I'm not a Diner guy, but it has been jarring to see the honoree's name spelled and punctuated incorrectly all month. I hope that whoever sets up the next month does it correctly. Jeff was an online friend and deserves that much.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:35 PM

Afternoon, Diners

 

howmus
I also get to have the "rotorouter" procedure on February 13th. (colonoscopy).  Lots of medical stuff going on in my life at the moment....

I had mine back on January 15th. All Clear says the doctor. I don't have to have another until 2028 Smile

I'll be up at midnight tonight so I can move the Diner— IF I can get those pesky hand brakes released.

If there are no objections I might make arrangenments for the Sacramento, California location? Plenty of sun and temperatueres in the 70s (20s C)

Just caught some news that an Amtrak train carrying US Representatives and Senators has hit a truck in Virginia. No one on the train was hurt seriously but not so good for the truck driver.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/train-carrying-gop-lawmakers-retreat-hits-trash-truck-n843311

Well, off to see the Wizard... My ch*re for today is to refill the bird feeders.

I'll stop by later!

How about a little Toronto PCC action?

 Toronto_PCC_1987 by Edmund, on Flickr

From November, 1987

Cheers! Ed

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:14 PM

Afternoon from the cold and again sn*wy Finger Lakes region of NYS...

cudaken
Evening Hum, Steven? Seems the other diners where delate by Mr Otto Delated Ray?

Huh????????  I can assure everyone I have not been Deleted nor Delated.......  Just haven't had the time to do more than read a few posts for the last few days.  Been trying to get some tax stuff started and still up to my eyeballs in alligators with the MLK committee stuff, not to mention....

OK, I will mention.  Had my appointment with the eye surgeon yesterday, had a series of tests and photographs taken to send to my insurance company to hope they give complete coverage for me to have my eyelids surgically corrected so I will be able to see better again.......  The surgeon doesn't think there should be a problem but they have to go through everything to show that this will be a medically nessesary procedure and not cosmetic surgery.  One of the tests is a "Perimeter" test to evaluate if the eyelids are restricting my periferal sight (They are).  So now I wait to hear if my insurance will cover the basic surgery.  I will also have a ultrasound proceedure on my eyebrows that will also improve the ability to see well but are considered a "Cosmetic" procedure by insurance.  That will cost me $750, but I figure is worth getting done along with the actual eyelid surgery....

I also get to have the "rotorouter" procedure on February 13th. (colonoscopy).  Lots of medical stuff going on in my life at the moment........

I am supposed to be heading out soon for a Class of 64 reunion committee meeting in Canandaigua this afternoon, but with the snow and wind, I just begged off attending.  I have nothing to report anyway.  I am in charge of the entertainment for our 55th. reunion coming up in 2019.  Basically all I am doing is providing the sound system and DJing for the party....

Just remember: "You can't have too much winter in the winter." - Robert Frost or as an old Eastman College buddy of mine says: "Winter is the reason we enjoy spring, summer, and fall."

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:07 PM

ricktrains4824
See, it's like this: They brought them in to hunt down some of the coyotes that have over-run the area.

The coyotes were brought in to help cull some of the deer that had over-run the area. So, me thinking about what kind of animal they are going to bring in once the mountain lions over-run the area?!?

That is what scares me!!!!!

"She swallowed the bird to swallow the spider,

That wriggled and jiggled and squiglled insider her.

She swallowed the spider to swallow the fly,

But I don't know why she swallowed the fly.

Parhaps...."

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:44 AM

well it has been a wild week.

Retired the wife's 21 year old car. Finally got off call.

need some rest

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:41 AM

Howdy .... We were in Nashville yesterday. We drove back home in the evening listening to the speech. 

We need somebody to start the February thread. It really does not matter to me what location is selected. My suggestion is only a suggestion. Steve O has a suggestion also. 

Model railroads: ... Who has projects they are working on or are about to work on ? 

Regarding my model railroad, I have a big mess I am cleaning up. My 1900-era project is the reason for the mess. Making scenery is always messy. 

Next, I need to clean the rails on the layout. I've not been running trains while I worked on the 1900-era scene. 

After that, I can get back to the work table. I have some decoders to install and a few freight cars kits to build. I never run out of model railroad projects.. 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:23 AM

I was watching the SOTU speech.

Do mountain lions actually kill coyotes?  They use dogs to hunt mountain lions, I would think coyotes would get that message and turn the table.

I have decided to use 2' wide kraft paper to plot out my next module.  I had planned an L-shape but then I bought a turntable off ebay.  Which means I will need a roundhouse.  I have the room to not use the L, I have to see what works out best, space wise.

 

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:48 AM

Good morning diners!

Glad a few regulars stopped in!

Shame with terrorism, lawsuits, insurance, ect... you just can't do things like that or take a self guided "tour" of a yard, ect... people today need to chill out and be cool as a cucumber! (Which are actually cooler because they're basically 100% water therefore they are always a few degrees cooler that room temperature)

Hey, anybody heard of a singer one Andrew McMahon and his band In The Wilderness??? He opened at the BJ concert and foe some reason my family got me one of his albums (CD) for my Birthday?! Guess they're telling me I need some culture in new music...

Well I might lurk around for a few more minutes then I'm gonna hit the hay...

Oh by the by I'm working on getting my own website I might go through squarespace now that I will be getting a job... I also may post a "History of my Railroad" thread here on the forums...

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:23 PM

gmpullman
Here's a photo I came across of my dad standing on the pilot of old No. 7 on the Narrow Gauge Bridgton & Harrison Railroad when he was there for a fan trip back in September of 1937. B and H No. 7 by Edmund, on Flickr

Hi Ed!

That shot would be almost impossible these days. Can you imaging a railfan being allowed to stand on the front of a steam engine as it rolled onto a turntable in this day and age?

I found something interesting when I was looking at the picture of your dad posing on the steam engine. If you look at the tracks in front of the cow catcher you will see that some of the boards between the tracks are out of place. I wonder if the wheels would just push the boards out of the way or if there was a disaster about to occur?Smile, Wink & GrinLaughLaugh

I love the angled boards on the engine house doors!

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:00 PM

Evenin' Folks

Here we are, almost done with January Yeah

 

ricktrains4824
Blue moon night - Blue moon (second full moon of the month) tonight, while being a super moon. It's also a blood moon, meaning there will be a partial eclipse for most people. (Full eclipse will occur for our friends in Hawaii...) Can we get any more rarer then that? And here I am with cloud cover.....

Well, Rick, it's clear skies here in Geauga County, Ohio and with the freshly fallen snow the moonlight looks like a well-lit stadium outside!

We were blessed with two baby boy goats a few hours ago. I think I'll come up with names related to the full moon (Maybe Luna and Badar?). We had one of the babies in the house for a while to bandage up a weak pastern (rear hoof). The cats were pretty curious but nonplused for the most part.

Headed down to the layout now. I'm not sure which project will arouse my interest but I'll find out when I get there Whistling


 

Most folks seem to want a warm and sunny spot for February's Diner. May I submit the Sacramento California State Railroad Museum?

https://www.californiarailroad.museum/

Lots of train action, including Amtrak, a Cab Forward and a model railroad to see. The Diner can be taken there by the California Zephyr, cut off and shoved into the Museum siding.

Sacramento Valley Live Steamers are nearby, too!

http://www.svlsrm.org/index.php

 


 

Well, that's all for now...

Here's a photo I came across of my dad standing on the pilot of old No. 7 on the Narrow Gauge Bridgton & Harrison Railroad when he was there for a fan trip back in September of 1937.

 B and H No. 7 by Edmund, on Flickr

I sure wish I could ask him about his experiences that day. It looks like there was a pretty big turnout for this excursion.

Cheers! Ed

 

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:37 PM

Good evening all.

Chloe - I will take a nice mug of peppermint hot cocoa please. Thanks.

Ken - Sorry, but the mountain lions themselves don't scare me.

See, it's like this: They brought them in to hunt down some of the coyotes that have over-run the area.

The coyotes were brought in to help cull some of the deer that had over-run the area.

So, me thinking about what kind of animal they are going to bring in once the mountain lions over-run the area?!? That is what scares me!!!!! Indifferent Blindfold

Weather - Cold and snowy. And, cloudy. (Important for a point below.)

Erie PA snowfall record watch - 143.3" and counting. The record for a entire winter season? 150.9.... I see a record falling real soon! (Pun intended.)

Blue moon night - Blue moon (second full moon of the month) tonight, while being a super moon. It's also a blood moon, meaning there will be a partial eclipse for most people. (Full eclipse will occur for our friends in Hawaii...) Can we get any more rarer then that?

And here I am with cloud cover.....

W*^k - Slow customer day.... Annoying everything else day... Not a good combo.

We got some new communication about floor plans, and not at all is this going to be fun. Just about everything is being rearranged.

One communication I have already said I will flat out not follow right now. That one they want us to pull every item out of one display, effective immediately. One of those items, is a built-in double wall oven. 

We have zero places to put it once it is removed from the displayer. So, it is either staying there until we sell it off, or it will get extremely beat up, and become un-sellable. (Would we rather write off a $3800 item as scrap for no reason other than we no longer want it displayed there, where it is protected from damage?)

Once the wall oven is out of the displayer, we are to then modify the displayer, as it will no longer be holding a double wall oven.... But a refrigerator. 

Only problem with that? I built the displayer, and I know that modifications of that nature will not be easy, or advisable. The displayer is made of particle board, with a few 2X4's to hold up the wall oven, hidden behind a facia panel. 

What is behind that facia panel? Bare particle board, now filled with screw holes from the facia, and the 2X4's. 

Oh yeah, the left side of what would be the fridge? Will be scratched to smithereens  by screws, that are currently holding a over the range microhood to the front wall. The built in wall oven is not as wide as a fridge, and therefore, there is no protective facia panel behind the front wall the microhood is mounted on. 

And the displayer that can fit a fridge on that side? 

Well, it has some extra panels added for stability on that side, that this displayer with the wall oven doesn't have.

So, not only will this displayer look horrible, it will be less safe, and possibly damage any products displayed on that one side, except for wall ovens. 

The other new communication was about price matching "issues", mainly stemming from the fact that over 70% of price matches are to match a single competitors pricing, implying that store employees are creating problems, and that if it continues we will be losing our commissions. I politely pointed out that we are told, two very important things. 

First, being told that we do indeed price match for identical items. (Same brand, model number, etc...) That is the rule. We have all been told this.

Second, we are told, that we are to, as much as possible, "say yes" to our customers. (Very few exceptions, but there are a couple. This is not one of them most times.)

I also politely pointed out a couple of facts.

First, that we do not initiate the price matching, but the customer does. (We do not volunteer to anyone to give them a "better price" by matching it to company X. That is the customers responsibility to do, not a gift because I feel like it.)

Second, that our customers are educated enough to have already price-compared, with more than just us.

Third, that we do not take our customers online to a competitors website, but check our own site (and most customers don't know what it even is.) for expanded in inventory options, color options, and for additional specs. (It was implied that we are not going to our own webpage, but elsewhere.)

Fourth, I have not had a single customer know what our correct website addres even is.

I then said that, if, you are telling me I have to match this price, and that I have to say yes to the customers on this point, that it should not come out of my pocket, as I am doing my job the way I am told. 

I will take the stance that I will refuse to say yes if it costs me money every time I do. (My boss is aware of this fact.) 

I will stop ranting now.

Hope all are well, and all have a good night!

Ricky W.

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:19 PM

 Evening Hum, Steven? Seems the other diners where delate by Mr Otto Delated Ray?

 Flo, if the gang Materializes again give them a cold Beer and give Rick and Steven a drink of there choices.

 Steven Found a little bigger box.

 Just beat so that all I have to type.

 Ken

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:07 PM

It was a beautiful sunny warm day today on the Coast. Just popping by to thank you all for the kind Birthday wishes.

Had another full day in the train room, I better be careful, it could be addicting. Laugh

  

All the best to all.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:26 PM

Evening diners,

Where is everybody???

Diners empty!!!

Maybe if drinks are on the house it'll lure some customers...

Well I'll be in the corner if anybody stops in...

Steve

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Posted by Steven Otte on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:13 PM

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Posted by OldSchoolScratchbuilder on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:49 PM

At the risk of having back-to-back posts, picked up a very nice MRC Sound Station 312. Love the sounds.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:50 PM

Good day diners,

I was in no way discouraging OldSchool from posting about his various train related projects, be it display cases/dioramas or Lego model trains, I was just wondering if he could condense some of the content into one or two posts not an entire page of them, that's all! No point in arguing over it! I also suggested he should consider a blog something I'm planning to do to post my ideas/opinions/advice in a way that they'll be more accessible and unrestricted by forum rules... that's all I was saying! No need to get all up in arms! So calm down please!

Anybody got some ideas for the February diner? Pennsylvania sounds too cold!

Well lunch breaks over...

Steve

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