Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Detailing Boxcars November 2017

3005 views
11 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: CA
  • 26 posts
Detailing Boxcars November 2017
Posted by wilsonbrucea on Friday, October 13, 2017 10:46 PM

Where did Lou Sassi get those neat little clamps he used to hold the floor in the boxcar while the glue dried?

  • Member since
    October 2001
  • From: OH
  • 17,574 posts
Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:30 AM

Larry

Conductor.

Summerset Ry.


"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt  Safety First!"

  • Member since
    December 2015
  • From: Shenandoah Valley
  • 9,094 posts
Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:36 AM

It's not there and google has failed me too  Crying

Imagine a lolly pop with a thumb screw on the end of the stick.  The arms of the clamp are semi-circular ending at the top of the lolly pop and it is an all metal clamp.

Couldn't even find a picture of anything close.

 
 

Henry

COB Potomac & Northern

Shenandoah Valley

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Franconia, NH
  • 3,130 posts
Posted by dstarr on Saturday, October 14, 2017 3:09 PM

The clamps Lou Sassi used are cute.  I've never seen the like before.  But you can get to the same place at your local stationary store.  They sell a black springy paper clip/grabber gizmo that would work just fine.  I have one in my desk drawer that is stamped "binder clip".  They come in various sizes. 

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: CA
  • 26 posts
Posted by wilsonbrucea on Saturday, October 14, 2017 6:09 PM

Tried Micromark they do not have them.  The binder clamps are too strong and will crush wood.

  • Member since
    June 2002
  • From: Pittsburgh, PA
  • 470 posts
Posted by ctyclsscs on Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:44 AM

I'm not sure if these folks might have them since their website isn't up and running yet, but they are probably the largest tool dealer you'll ever see at any show. They may be at a show near you soon. http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/p/3001749/reply.aspx

The site says hobbytools.com, but at shows they go under B&B Hobby.

Jim

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Franconia, NH
  • 3,130 posts
Posted by dstarr on Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:26 PM

The binder clips come in all sizes, from tiny thru humongous.  Or, try spring clothes pins. 

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: CA
  • 26 posts
Posted by wilsonbrucea on Sunday, October 15, 2017 4:08 PM

dstarr

The binder clips come in all sizes, from tiny thru humongous.  Or, try spring clothes pins.

I have tried binder clamps and they do not work for me.  I have all sorts of modfied clothes pins and they are overall good as are those sprung hair clamps.  These little clamps will get into tight spaces.

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Canada, eh?
  • 13,375 posts
Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, October 15, 2017 4:30 PM

I don't have the magazine, so can't comment on that particular clamp, but I wonder why a clamp would be needed to glue a floor into a boxcar....actually, I wonder even more why anyone would want to glue the floor into a boxcar.  
Even on craftsman-type resin kits, where the instructions have a step telling the modeller to "glue the floor in place", why not make a couple of easy extra steps to alter the carbody and floor to allow attachment with screws.  It's almost always easier to repair or alter rolling stock when interior access is available.

F'rinstance, I built this Seaboard ventilated boxcar from a WrightTRAK kit...

While the car has been in service for a while, I still intend to make a load of watermelons, along with the appropriate dunnage, for the car's interior, so I added provisions for a screw-secured floor...

I'll probably secure the load to the floor with screws, too, as that will allow me to run the car either loaded, or as an empty.

Wayne

  • Member since
    March 2002
  • From: Milwaukee WI (Fox Point)
  • 11,439 posts
Posted by dknelson on Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:10 PM

Wayne, the article in question is about modeling detailed boxcar interiors so what is being glued into place is not the actual floor to the car but the modeled representation of a prototype boxcar floor to the actual floor of the car.  So the clamp is holding one flat surface to another and needs to be parallel to both.

The clamp in question is a pinching clamp with a screw tightener but of an unusual sort I have not seen before.  There are however many clamps that offer the same parallel force on the work.  

Dave Nelson

  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,367 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, October 15, 2017 10:07 PM

dknelson
The clamp in question is a pinching clamp with a screw tightener but of an unusual sort I have not seen before.

I have a few like this—and they are about as close to the ones in the article I've come across...

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,41637,41659&p=64791

but they have a bulkier jaw than the ones Lou was using. I can't believe we found something that Google doesn't know about!

Will someone send an email to Mr. Sassi today?

Regards, Ed

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Canada, eh?
  • 13,375 posts
Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, October 16, 2017 2:43 AM

dknelson
...The clamp in question is a pinching clamp with a screw tightener but of an unusual sort I have not seen before.  There are however many clamps that offer the same parallel force on the work.  

Thanks for the info, Dave.
I would use spring-type clothes pegs for a job like that...I have about 30 of them with the tapered tips cut off.  This allows me to clamp close to obstructions that would normally prevent the contact surfaces from reaching the item to be clamped.

I've put modelled floors in a few boxcars, mainly to use up stripwood that had become surplus once I discovered dimensional strip styrene.  Of course, if you model the floor, then you need to model working doors, too.

Wayne

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!