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Posted by MidlandPacific on Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:59 PM

SETH CRAWFORD

 

 
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I agree on the Crescent, but would really love to see one with a green and gold PS4 on the front.

jim

 

 

 
Walthers can make the cars and BLI can finally stop being stupid and make the obviously needed PS-4 that hasn't had a proper model of it since brass for some strange reason. Seriously that boggles my mind, why haven't we had a PS-4 since brass? If you say demand isn't there, you're wrong, I know a battleship's worth of people who would jump at a chance for a gorgeous green Pacific like that. 
 

You can easily get a smooth running PFM Ps-4 unpainted in good or better condition for under $300.  You would have to spend more on sound, DC, and a good paint job, but by the time you get there, you're probably not too far past what Rapido is asking for a Royal Hudson.

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Posted by TheWizard on Saturday, September 23, 2017 8:09 PM

I'll 2nd the Prospector, preferrably a '64-'67 version. It's a fun train, and IIRC, not too long, and I'm sure Walthers would paint some trailers to go with it.

And more Viewliners please.

 

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, September 23, 2017 8:43 PM

I got one.  I got one!!:

 

The Twin Cities Zephyr:

 

 

Anyone out there like dome cars????

And.  Walthers is coming out with Burlington E8's in a few months.  Of course, those in the picture are E7's.  But Eights will do nicely.

And it's kinda short.  For people who can't field a 16 car train.  SEVEN cars.  Very nice. 

Get started, Walthers!

 

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Posted by garya on Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:00 PM

Much as I'd like to see Bat-Train, I hope to get the Frisco Meteor or the Texas Special. 

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Saturday, September 23, 2017 11:06 PM

[:-^

]I'm happy,  why wouldn't I be happy ? 

The C.Z. is already done.........

But I have to admit that the North Coast Limited would sure be sweet.

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Posted by fmilhaupt on Sunday, September 24, 2017 8:36 AM

I think that the Prospector would be a great choice- it's short enough that even people like me who don't model the D&RGW might consider it, because it's "neat."

I know that I'd probably buy one.

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Posted by LensCapOn on Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:46 AM

7j43k

I got one.  I got one!!:

 

The Twin Cities Zephyr:

 

 

Anyone out there like dome cars????

And.  Walthers is coming out with Burlington E8's in a few months.  Of course, those in the picture are E7's.  But Eights will do nicely.

And it's kinda short.  For people who can't field a 16 car train.  SEVEN cars.  Very nice. 

Get started, Walthers!

 

Ed

 

Since I'm in N, the Walther trains don't mean that much to me.

 

However, this train is special and Kato's CZ cars offer a good start for producing it. So would like to see this done especially since it is relativly short and so better to model. (not to mention Cool)

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Posted by LensCapOn on Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:50 AM

Go Modern!

 

Go Brightline!

 

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Posted by The Jet Clipper on Saturday, October 14, 2017 6:53 PM

After pondering on this for about a few months, I came up with a list that I want to see potentially become a reality:

-1938/40 "Broadway Limited" (the ones with the heavyweight and streamlined diners)

-1938 "Super Chief"

-1960's "Commodore Vanderbilt/20th Century Limited (Proto treatment w/ window gaskets and plated cars where applicable. Maybe reissues of the cars released in 2008 for a 1948-1960's train??)

-"Prospector"

-"Panama Limited"

-"Southern Cresent"

-"North Coast Limited" (maybe with some SP&S scheme cars for later trains)

-"Sunset Limited"

-"Bluebird"

-"Hummingbird"

-"Golden State"

-"Texas Special" (That's one I haven't heard of in a while)

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, October 14, 2017 7:47 PM

The Jet Clipper
After pondering on this for about a few months, I came up with a list that I want to see potentially become a reality:

A few days ago Walthers sent out a survey. In it they asked about interest in the following trains and individual cars:

How likely would you be to purchase the following HO scale WalthersProto name trains, if offered at a price similar to our current name trains and (unless noted) modeled as they appeared in the streamlined era? 

New York Central - Commodore Vanderbilt  (1950s)
Milwaukee Road - Twin Cities Hiawatha  (1960s yellow)
Rock Island - Corn Belt Rocket (1960s)
Kansas City Southern - Southern Belle  (1960s)
Southern Pacific - Sunset Limited  (1950s)
Chicago Burlington & Quincy - Denver Zephyr (1960s)
CB&Q - Twin Cities Zephyr (Morning, Afternoon) (1960s)
Pennsylvania RR - Pittsburgher  (1950s)
New York Central - 20th Century Limited  (late 1950s)
Pennsylvania RR - Congressional Limited  (1960s)
Burlington Northern - Empire Builder  (late 1960s)
B&O - Columbian (1950s)
Northern Pacific - North Coast Limited  (1960s)
Seaboard Air Line - Silver Star or Silver Meteor  (1950s)
Santa Fe - San Diegan  (1960s)
Wabash - Cannonball  (1960s)
Missouri Pacific - Texas Eagle  (1950s)
Union Pacific - City of Los Angeles  (1960s)
Seaboard Coast Line - Silver Star or Silver Meteor  (1960s)
Soo Line - Laker  (1950s)
Chicago & North Western - Twin Cities 400 (1950s)
Southern Pacific - Lark  (1950s)
Grand Trunk Western - Maple Leaf  (1960s)
Rock Island/Southern Pacific - Golden State (1950s)
New York Central - New England States  (1950s)
Atlantic Coast Line - East Coast Champion
Santa Fe - combined Super Chief/El Capitan  (1960s)
Lackawanna - Phoebe Snow  (1950s)
Southern Pacific - Del Monte  (1960s)
Milwaukee Road - Twin Cities Hiawatha  (1950s orange & maroon)
Illinois Central - Panama Limited  (1960s)
Union Pacific - City of San Francisco  (1950s)
Santa Fe - hi level El Capitan (1957)
 
 
How likely would you be to purchase the following HO scale WalthersProto name trains, if offered at a price similar to our current name trains? Please note these trains are from various eras. 
NS executive train (2000s)
Santa Fe executive train (1970-80s)
BNSF executive train (2000s)
Conrail executive train (1990s)
Southern - Southern Crescent (1970s)
Auto Train (1970s, pre-Amtrak)
C&NW executive train (1990s)
DRGW - Rio Grande Zephyr (1970s)
Amtrak - Coast Starlight (1980s)
Georgia Railroad mixed train  (1970s)
Chessie Steam Special  (1970s)

How likely would you be to purchase one or more HO Scale WalthersMainline Budd cars, painted for the following railroads, if offered at a price similar to our current WalthersMainline passenger cars? 

Norfolk & Western (red)
BNSF
New Haven
Boston & Maine
Atlantic Coast Line
Kansas City Southern (black)
Alaska (blue with yellow stripes)
Illinois Central
Rock Island
Monon (gray/red)
Southern Pacific Daylight
Erie Lackawanna
Northern Pacific
Seaboard Coast Line
Burlington Northern (silver)
Chicago & North Western
Norfolk Southern

If there's any interest or suggestions I would send Walthers an email.

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:03 PM

What an excellent way to get the modelers attention, I like it!

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:58 PM

gmpullman

 

 
The Jet Clipper
After pondering on this for about a few months, I came up with a list that I want to see potentially become a reality:

 

A few days ago Walthers sent out a survey. In it they asked about interest in the following trains and individual cars:

How likely would you be to purchase the following HO scale WalthersProto name trains, if offered at a price similar to our current name trains and (unless noted) modeled as they appeared in the streamlined era? 

 

Burlington Northern - Empire Builder  (late 1960s)
 

Odd.  I didn't receive the survey.  Guess they don't want my opinion.

Since there was no Burlington Northern in the late '60's, and they use the magic words EMPIRE BUILDER, it sounds like what they're talking about is painting their long-standing EB in the BN white on green style.  Likely with no new cars at all.  For me, that's not all bad.  I might pick up an F unit or two in BN, and a few cars to run in a later Amtrak train.  Perhaps they could do some E's, too, for the Burlington part of the run.  Inicidentally, I've got some Burlington E's on order for just such a a thing.  But pre-BN/Amtrak.

 

I AM glad to see the Twin Cities Zephyr there, though.  Nice.

 

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Posted by The Jet Clipper on Sunday, October 15, 2017 5:00 PM

Wasn't the late 50's 20th Century Limited combined with the Commodore Vanderbuilt? If so, they could kill two birds with one stone with a reissue of the Century and the new run of the CV. I can imagine the "Creek" series observation cars with the faux window gaskets and factory-installed Stainless Steel grabs, and I like what I see!

 

The San Diegan, NCL, Texas Eagle, Auto-Train, and Panama Limited are really good shouts, too. I swear, if we need to wait another year or two for the North Coast Limited, they're getting a very strongly worded email (not really ;) ).

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, October 15, 2017 5:51 PM

The Jet Clipper
Wasn't the late 50's 20th Century Limited combined with the Commodore Vanderbuilt?

Yes, that happened in 1957, IIRC. The smoothside Pullman cars also got a slightly revised two-tone gray paint scheme in 1953, eliminating the black "pinstripe" outlining of the lettering and stripes. Once the Commodore and Century were combined the train ran with the Budd equipment toward the head-end and the Century cars making up the last four or five cars toward the rear along with the Creek observations or sometimes a Budd Wingate Brook as a stand-in.

Original 1948 style on the left and circa 1953 on the right.

Regards, Ed

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Posted by The Jet Clipper on Sunday, October 15, 2017 6:56 PM

gmpullman

 

 
The Jet Clipper
Wasn't the late 50's 20th Century Limited combined with the Commodore Vanderbuilt?

 

Yes, that happened in 1957, IIRC. The smoothside Pullman cars also got a slightly revised two-tone gray paint scheme in 1953, eliminating the black "pinstripe" outlining of the lettering and stripes. Once the Commodore and Century were combined the train ran with the Budd equipment toward the head-end and the Century cars making up the last four or five cars toward the rear along with the Creek observations or sometimes a Budd Wingate Brook as a stand-in.

Original 1948 style on the left and circa 1953 on the right.

Regards, Ed

 

I didn't know that, Ed. You learn something new everyday, I guess!

 

So, assuming that there is a 20th Century Limited down the line, I'm guessing that Walthers is doing the 1953 train, because the 1948 train isn't needed. Also, if there is a Commodore Vanderbilt in the near future, that'll pair perfectly with the '53 train for a 1957, no longer all Pullman, 20th Century Limited! I was originally one for a North Coast LTD , but the 20th Century/Commodore Vanderbilt is now my most desired train. I really want to see the toolings for a full '53 Century and CV, for those who want the separate trains and a combined train. I, personally, will go for the separate Century (probably my favorite train from the East). 

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Posted by steemtrayn on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:44 AM

CNJ Jersey Builder

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 1:18 PM

Do the Pacific Surfliner!!! Big Smile

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Posted by The Jet Clipper on Saturday, October 21, 2017 12:02 AM

UPDATE: NEW E UNITS!

 

So, through Blue Ridge Hobbies, I got to see the November Flyer early, and I saw new E units for preorders. Projected to come out in February, the Illinois Central, New York Central, and Southern are offered. So...

Panama Limited?

Commodore Vanderbilt/20th Century Limited??

Southern Cresent???

The future looks bright! :) 

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Posted by caldreamer on Saturday, October 21, 2017 8:24 AM

I would like to see the Southern Pacific Lark.  Its two tone grey cars are nifty.  An all sleeper train that complemented the Daylight trains.  Left San Francisco and Los Angeles at 9 PM and arrived at its destiantion at 8:30 AM.

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Posted by RevRob on Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:17 AM

I’m with you, Eric.  I’d even settle for PA-1s! Back around 1970s when I was in junior high school, I started building the Diamond with Athearn PAs and the old Walthers‘ wood and metal passenger car kits.  The PRR diner and two modernized coaches, all lettered for the LV, was as far as I got.  

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Posted by cuyama on Saturday, October 21, 2017 11:12 AM

caldreamer
I would like to see the Southern Pacific Lark.  Its two tone grey cars are nifty. 

If you still model in N scale, the KATO Lark train sets are available via eBay and other resale channels. Not perfect renditions of some of the cars, but pretty close.

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:15 PM

Jimmy_Braum
Or City of New Orleans?

I'd go for that one.

Of course, I still suffer from small-radius curves so these name-trains that need wide curves will never run on my layout.

A few weeks back, I was on the Cape Cod Railway, a scenic railroad out of Hyannis, Massachusetts, that also runs lunch and dinner trains for us "trainiacs," as they call us.  We took a lunch train, and had the incredible luck to be seated on the "Cape Codder," with only about 10 seats for diners.  It was a beautifully restored parlor car, with a bar and a small amount of table seating.  The car, we were told, was 100 years old this year and originally ran on the Illinois Central, as part of the consist for City of New Orleans.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:32 PM

How about the Silver Meteor or Silver Star? 

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Posted by caldreamer on Saturday, October 21, 2017 6:21 PM

Cuyama:

  Look what Kato did with Coast Daylight and the Braodway Limited in N scale.  Walthers did it with the City Of Los Angeles, they produced the correct cars for the train. They could do the same with the Lark, baggage express, 60 foot RPO, 13 sleeping cars, the triple diner, and the 2-1-1-Cafe Observation.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Sunday, October 22, 2017 2:07 PM

I would probably buy the KCS Southern Belle Observation Car because there's one right up the street from my house.

http://rs557.pbsrc.com/albums/ss12/WardsTwinOppySpecial/Screenshot_2017-10-22-14-01-17_zpslkx7sd7w.png?w=480&h=480&fit=clip

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:26 PM

The Jet Clipper

Well, what do you guys think? Some of these may not make sense, but they are only theories after all. Walthers may just announce the North Coast Limited or a rerun of the 20th Century Limited, but maybe they will do one of the trains I listed. One can only hope... 

I'm pretty sure it will be the C&WI commuter train.

http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr0107/cwi261.jpg

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:10 PM

The Jet Clipper
I got to see the November Flyer early, and I saw new E units for preorders.

The future looks bright! :) 

And— I see they're going to use Loksound Select decoders! Yes

https://www.walthers.com/emd-e8a-a-set-loksound-select-dcc-sound-new-york-central-1-2

I hope the mention of Black paint is a typo. You can clearly see in their supplied photo, NYC's simplified passenger scheme was dark gray, although they DID try one experimental, all black, E unit.

Cheers,

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Thursday, October 26, 2017 10:25 PM

So Walthers is doing an NYC Train, what's the name?

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Posted by 7j43k on Thursday, October 26, 2017 11:02 PM

ATSFGuy

So Walthers is doing an NYC Train, what's the name?

 

 

If Walthers making a NYC diesel means they're going to make a NYC train, what does it mean that they're making CB&Q diesels ahead of the NYC?

Or, in other words, when's the CB&Q train coming?

 

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Posted by coachrider on Sunday, December 31, 2017 11:37 AM

Big vote for the North Coast Limited. Been prodding Walthers, even Rapido to do this beautiful train. Broadway Limited is doing a run of Lowey, and Athearn has told me they would be open to another fun of NP Fs, so maybe time is right!!

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