So, It's been almost 3 months since the current name train (60's C&O 'George Washington') from Walthers was announced, and there will be another one next month. I know I'm probably not the only one when I say this, but, I'm always excited to see what the next trainset will be. So, I want to take a crack at some theory crafting (woo), trying to guess what the next train will be.
Let's take a look at the past few trains:
Now, 3 SF trains and 3 East Coast trains (counting the George Washington) can mean one of two things; another Santa Fe "Chief" styled train or a warming up to the Streamliners of the East. Hmm... Let's see what they can do.
Well, what do you guys think? Some of these may not make sense, but they are only theories after all. Walthers may just announce the North Coast Limited or a rerun of the 20th Century Limited, but maybe they will do one of the trains I listed. One can only hope...
The B&O Columbian or the Milwaukee Columbian?
The pre 1949 B&O train or the post 1949 B&O train?
No they don't have cars for a pre 1949 B&O Columbian.......
Sheldon
Out of everything you listed, I would love to see the North Coast Limited.
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-Kevin
Living the dream.
I would like to see C&O's FFV. We have the George but,not C&O's other premiere train.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
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SeeYou190 Out of everything you listed, I would love to see the North Coast Limited. . -Kevin .
Kevin. I agree .
The North Coast Limited would be a good choice.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
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The NCL here, too.
It's such an obvious one, the fact that it hasn't been done by now gets me thinking Walthers is in some sort of snit on the matter.
Ed
The Southern Crescent is what I say, they've already made most if not all the rolling stock for it (streamlined Budds with Southern lettering) and painting an E8 in Southern green can't be THAT hard for someone like Walthers.
I agree on the Crescent, but would really love to see one with a green and gold PS4 on the front.
jim
The Southern RY is a good choice for a Passenger Streamliner. I love the "Crescent Limited" in the 1970's with four E8's on the head end and that PS Dome Car near the back of the train.
But, the question is, "Will it SELL?"
jmbjmb I agree on the Crescent, but would really love to see one with a green and gold PS4 on the front. jim
I am partial because I am a modern era modeler, but how about a modern Amtrak consist? Capitol limited maybe? Or City of New Orleans?
If we have to go back... I wouldn't mind seeing a NW consist, since the Pennsy has been done to the moon and back. I'd say my fallen flag, but the PWV got out of the passenger business in the 1930s or 1920s.
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These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway. As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).
20th Century Limited might sell pretty well. With either E7s or E8s on the head end.
If the cars are in the $80/90 dollar range, I'll PASS.
Walthers serioulsy needs to trim down the price for passenger cars, the company was never this way in the 2000's. It's completley ridculous to pay $100 for a passenger train. The Super Chief cars were around $20/30 dollars and I think that's much more reasonable!
How about L&N's "Hummingbird" or "Pan American"?
Both of those Streamliners are ignored.
Oh.. what about the PRR "General" Pullman cars, and the pre war view series cars
or, the PRR Congressional "Fleet of Modernism"
Heck, we wanna go deep...how about a commuter train consist. Undecorated coaches so you can make it whatever road you want it to be.
ATSFGuy How about L&N's "Hummingbird" or "Pan American"? Both of those Streamliners are ignored.
as long as we get the pretty blue engines L&N had for the Hummingbird and not that ugly grey that they decided to change to in the 50's for some stupid reason then that would be pretty sweet
Since we are all listing our favorite passenger trains needing to be made in plastic, all get my ore in:
Rio Grande Prospector.
Rio Grande. The Action Road - Focus 1977-1983
M-10005 City of Denver
Brass sets are $5000+ and always sell out.
Steve
My bid for trains would be the Southern Ry Tennessean corrugated tran set. You would have a place to run an N&W J, Southern E-units or one of those plentiful PFM or PSC Ps-4's.
I'd also like to see an N&W Pocahontas or Powhatan Arrow. They could use Redbird GP-9's.
A Reading Crusader or the North Coast Limited would be nice too, as long as we're wishing!
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works
Jimmy_Braum I am partial because I am a modern era modeler, but how about a modern Amtrak consist? Capitol limited maybe? Or City of New Orleans?
They already make all the components for a Superliner or Amfleet train, although the baggage cars are tough to find. They're just a reissue away on the Viewliner sleepers from anything else.
ATSFGuy,When were Walthers passenger cars $20/30? In 2003, the Super Cheif cars were $40 ea. ($54 in today's money) with plastic couplers and no grabirons installed.
https://web.archive.org/web/20031203230018/http://www.walthers.com:80/exec/page/super_chief
Today's Walthers cars are $70 to $85, just $16 to $31 more than they were 15 years ago in today's money. Yet the ATSF cars today are now plated, have metal knuckle couplers and have all the grabs installed. How much would you charge someone to install grabs and couplers on their cars? I don't think $16 to $31 is unreasonable for that job.
Why do you think it's "completely ridiculous" to spend $100 for an entire passenger train? Even at your incredible low-ball price of $20 per car, a decent 10-car train would still cost $200. It doesn't make any sense unless all one does is short commuter runs.
I'll go with the Southern Railway train. I think that will be next version.
ATSFGuy The Southern RY is a good choice for a Passenger Streamliner. I love the "Crescent Limited" in the 1970's with four E8's on the head end and that PS Dome Car near the back of the train. But, the question is, "Will it SELL?"
Not only would I buy one, but plan my next layout around it.
I'm thinking a western train this time.
There's the previously commented on North Coast Limited.
A Burlington train wouldn't be unreasonable, epecially with Walthers' upcoming E-8A's ready to pull it.
An SP train wouldn't be out of line. Perhaps the Sunset Limited that ran down south. Silver with a red letterboard, as I recall.
Any of those would be well received, I think.
7j43k I'm thinking a western train this time. There's the previously commented on North Coast Limited. A Burlington train wouldn't be unreasonable, epecially with Walthers' upcoming E-8A's ready to pull it. An SP train wouldn't be out of line. Perhaps the Sunset Limited that ran down south. Silver with a red letterboard, as I recall. Any of those would be well received, I think. Ed
That's a pretty good shout, and I'm always up for an Espee train. There are the ALCO PA's in the Mainline series, so possibly we could see a Daylight PA or E8 (as you brought up) in the coming years. Maybe an SP train or two, of which will be welcomed with open arms, will follow.
The Daylight colors are very beautiful, but I think it's time to try another scheme. That's why I suggested the Sunset Limited.
They need to go North of the Boarder. CN's Ocean or Super Continental. Or CP's Dominion. The Canadian was done well ( but very expensivly by Rapido )
Here's my candidate.
--Steven Otte, Model Railroader senior associate editorsotte@kalmbach.com
Steven Otte Here's my candidate.
Now your talkin.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."