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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, June 12, 2017 4:54 PM

Track fiddler

Since running track straight is a part of the thread.  I'm going to bite.  

Edit. Accidentally pushed the submit button.  So I'll finish with another post.

 

It would seem to me.  One could rip some 1/8 inch Masonite through the table saw the exact width between the rails.  Than  just put that spacer between the rails whenever you caulk down your track.  That would prevent any sway or dog wagging.  I haven't tried it but I don't see how it would not work.  

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, June 12, 2017 5:11 PM

Track fiddler

 

 
Track fiddler

Since running track straight is a part of the thread.  I'm going to bite.  

Edit. Accidentally pushed the submit button.  So I'll finish with another post.

 

 

 

It would seem to me.  One could rip some 1/8 inch Masonite through the table saw the exact width between the rails.  Than  just put that spacer between the rails whenever you caulk down your track.  That would prevent any sway or dog wagging.  I haven't tried it but I don't see how it would not work.  

 

That's my fault. I inadvertently took the thread off topic a while back.

I actually use 10" strips of metal Ribbonrail Track Alignment Gauge to set my flex track straight, but that tool does not work as well as the curved Ribbonrail Track Alignment Gauge does for setting the desired radius. To be effective, the straight Ribbonrail Track Alignment Gauge would need to be a lot longer, say 30" or so.

Ripping lengths of 1/8" Masonite might work if you could keep the width uniform.

Rich

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, June 12, 2017 5:32 PM

I'm sure the rip width would remain consistent as long as you have a true sharp blade that doesn't wobble. Also it would be wise to rip more than you think you need.  So you have plenty to cut any length you need.  Then just T pin on the outside of the tie ends while the caulk dries.

Edit.     The key to this trick is having a table saw.  I realize not everybody has one. There's always a buddy that has one though.  It doesn't take long to rip a bunch of four foot strips of masonite.  

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, June 12, 2017 5:38 PM

Yeah, you need a good quality table saw. In all my years as a homeowner, I never bought one. I have a circular saw, a jig saw, and a reciprocal saw, but none of these are reliable for such a task.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:53 PM

richhotrain

Yeah, you need a good quality table saw. In all my years as a homeowner, I never bought one. I have a circular saw, a jig saw, and a reciprocal saw, but none of these are reliable for such a task.

Rich

 

You can make your own table saw with a circle saw and a small piece of three-quarter inch plywood.  You drill four holes in the base plate of your circle saw.  You raise the blade all the way up as far as it goes.  You screw the base plate of your circle saw to the plywood with three quarter inch screws.  Turn it on and slowly lower the blade through the plywood all the way down.  Unplug your circle saw and zippy tie the on button on.  Flip the plywood and circle saw over on your horses so the blade is now on top.  Screw a straight board parallel to your saw blade at the desired width.  Screw the plywood down to the horses so it's stable.  You now have a table saw.

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Posted by wdcrvr on Saturday, June 29, 2019 10:05 PM
Hey Cudaken. Are you still out there and are you still using ATF to clean your track? And is it still working well?
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Posted by NVSRR on Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:19 AM

All you need is a rip fence.   Clamp that to the material being cut and work bench and let the guide the saw.  They have rip fences with saw tracks now that the saw locks to.  As long as the fence is straight. The cut will be straight. It a good alternative for those with no space for a table saw.  

 

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, June 30, 2019 4:51 PM

wdcrvr
Hey Cudaken. Are you still out there and are you still using ATF to clean your track? And is it still working well?

 Yes I am and I swear by it! Guess I am going on three years now and seldom clean engine wheels! My short line was and still is the problem track. Other day my BLI F7 ABA consist started stalling. Added about 6 drops of ATF (3 on left rail and 3 on the right) and it helped. Still the B unit wanted to stall. So I did above again and no more problems! Thumbs Up

 I have had no gunk bulid up on the rolling stock wheels or gunk bulid up on the side of the tracks.

 Now BLI Smoke Fluid, that is straight up Evil! Got a new BLI PRR I1sa and tried the smoke! Bang Head Still fighting for traction with my steam engines now, but that is a different story. Angry

 ATF is good, smoke fluid is evil.

 Cuda Ken

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Posted by wdcrvr on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:45 AM

Thanks for the update.  I am thinking I should give it a try.  I thought that if I poked this sleeping dog maybe somebody would chime in and tell me about all the bad things that go with using ATF to clean rails.  But no one has chimed in and I have not been able to find any actual claims of problems.  I have seen quite a few postings of people with concerns but none of them had actually tried the process.  Thanks

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Posted by bearman on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 8:19 AM

I tried it, and a film developed on the rails which attracted all sorts of crud.  Took a while using elbow grease and lacquer thinner to get it all off.

Bear "It's all about having fun."

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Posted by UNCLEBUTCH on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 8:48 AM

bearman

I tried it, and a film developed on the rails which attracted all sorts of crud.  Took a while using elbow grease and lacquer thinner to get it all off.

 

bearman

I tried it, and a film developed on the rails which attracted all sorts of crud.  Took a while using elbow grease and lacquer thinner to get it all off.

 

 More MR drama,  I use it, been useing it for years. Threr is NO flim, no black stuff splatter, no issues except that it works.

 Threre is info out there that explains why it works, I'm not smart enuff to understand it,or explaine it. It works

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Posted by bearman on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 9:38 AM

Fine, if it works for you, then that's great.

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Posted by chorister on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:39 AM
Gleaming is still the best
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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 11:19 AM

chorister
Gleaming is still the best 

I dunno...sounds like a lot of work to me.

I find that an occasional vacuuming, perhaps every year or two, keeps my track clean and the trains running reliably.  It does help that the layout is in its own finished room, well-insulated and with no need for heating or cooling - often a source of dirt and other contaminants that can affect performance.

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Posted by UNCLEBUTCH on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 11:50 AM

chorister
Gleaming is still the best
 

chorister
Gleaming is still the best
 

I have never tryed it,so can't offer an opinion. But of the many,many articals I've read on the reasons that we have to clean track, gleaming does not address any of them. I can't understand why it would help

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Posted by bearman on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 11:59 AM

Sad to say, but this is turning into a "discussion" similar to "Which DCC system is the best?"

Bear "It's all about having fun."

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Posted by HO-Velo on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 1:28 PM

Food for thought; recently read some science in regards to micro-arcing between loco wheels and rail causing metal oxide build-up (black gunk?) and track cleaning solvents.

"Non-polar solvents work best at cleaning electrical contacts and protect by inhibiting micro-arcing."  "Examples of non-polar solvents are kerosene, WD-40 contact cleaner, CRC contact cleaner & protectant, minerial spirits and Wahl clipper oil."  "Semi-polar solvents include CRC-2-26, ATF and Rail Zip."  "Polar solvents include Iso-alcohol, acetone and lacquer thinner."

Think I'll suspend using the lacquer thinner for rail cleaning and give one of the non-polar solvents a try. 

Be happy in your track cleaning.  Regards, Peter 

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, July 2, 2019 9:42 PM

 Peter, while it was all sort of Greek to me, thank you anyway.

 I don't think ATF cleans the rail as much as help the conductivity. Regardless it works for me!

 Later, Cuda Ken

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