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Cisco Kid:
Nice paint job! Great work on the handrails and decals too!
I do have a question. How are you going to integrate the Bangor and Aroostook loco into operations in western Canada? I'm not being critical, I just want to know the storey.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
hon30critterHow are you going to integrate the Bangor and Aroostook loco into operations in western Canada?
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Cisco Kid,
Very nice job. I'm glad to not be alone loving BL-2's! I have always thought they were cool looking units. Having ridden them several times in the yards at Hagerstown, MD on the WM I have special spot for them.
I model the WM so naturally have 2 units. I always lamented that they never bought more of them. They look great in BAR colors too.
Thanks for sharing it with us!
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works
Thanks for the nice feedback.
Ah, you mention bringing in potatoes. That is a bit like "coals to Newcastle" here where I am......near to Pemberton, BC where I worked for years.
Pemberton is a certified seed potato area. Ok, you can bring in potatoes to eat, but not for your garden. There are actually potato police who have the authority to come over and rip out your potato plants to protect the purity of the zone....and I have seen it done.
No one is going to let those questionable Maine potatoes around here. Well, just to eat. Don't try getting all horticultural with them.
But thanks. I did learn a lot from reading up about the BAR. I see it did have a connection with the railroad in Quebec and unfortunately with the Lac Megantic crash, in an historical way.
The fact that you picked what I consider to be EMD's homeliest offering doesn't detract one bit from the very nice job you did on it. I suppose the runner-up in the above category, the low-nose GP30, will be your next project? The CPR had a couple.
Wayne
Cisco Kid It was a Krylon enamel made for plastic, so I sprayed a bit out into a cup and added 1/5 or so thinner.
It was a Krylon enamel made for plastic, so I sprayed a bit out into a cup and added 1/5 or so thinner.
Love the BL2.
What did you use to thin the Krylon?
CG
Thanks.
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doctorwayne The fact that you picked what I consider to be EMD's homeliest offering doesn't detract one bit from the very nice job you did on it. I suppose the runner-up in the above category, the low-nose GP30, will be your next project? The CPR had a couple. Wayne
Dr. Wayne.....I'm totally shocked that you don't see beauty in the low nose GP-30. Maybe it's the Chessie paint scheme, but it is one of my favorites.
Bob
Don't Ever Give Up
Sorry, Bob, but I've never cared for the appearance of the low-nose GP30, nor for the Chessie paint scheme....even on the T-1, which is a locomotive which I otherwise do like.
I worked for Chessie, and we hated that paint scheme. They looked like circus wagons.
First you disparaged my GP-30 and now you have added insult to injury by putting down the Chessie paint scheme.
Realizing that our rr modeling is a constant learning experience I'm sure you and Hobo will come to appreciate the beauty of this locomotive.
A bit off topic, IMHO I think the Chessie scheme ranks right up there with the Daylight and Warbonnet schemes. Icons.
The BL-2 and GP-30 have seemed to always invoke observations of dislike. Even the designer didnt like the BL design. I rather favor them. If you want an ugly diesel, look at anything made after 1980! Safety cabs, gensets, etc. Good grief now those are some fugly looking locos!
On topic - nice work on the model. You did a fine job! I like it.
PM Railfan
superbeWayne First you disparaged my GP-30 and now you have added insult to injury by putting down the Chessie paint scheme.....
Hey, Bob, don't put words in my mouth. I don't dislike your GP30, but rather all GP30s with low noses. And not a put-down of the Chessie paint scheme, either - I don't care for it, but I'm not in the habit of criticising anybody's tastes.
superbe.....Realizing that our rr modeling is a constant learning experience I'm sure you and Hobo will come to appreciate the beauty of this locomotive. Bob
You may be right, Bob....as they say, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". However, at this point in time, low-nose GP30s and the Chessie paint scheme, rather than beauty, feel more like a thumb in my eye.
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PM RailfanA bit off topic, IMHO I think the Chessie scheme ranks right up there with the Daylight and Warbonnet schemes. Icons.....
I actually don't mind the Warbonnet scheme, but not too fond of the Daylight scheme at all, and especially on steam. For Espee diesels, I do like the "bloody nose" version, though.
As for the Chessie scheme being iconic, it's my opinion that C&O/Chessie changed their paint schemes more often than most people change their socks - none were ever around long enough to reach that status. Besides that, I haven't yet decided to forgive C&O for their takeover of the Pere Marquette.I do railfan CSX, though, and consider the paint scheme below to be preferable to the Chessie scheme (even if it's on a boxy diesel with a safety cab) :
...and on my layout, the C&O is still around...
...as is the Pere Marquette...
Well, I for one really like the low nose Gp30s. I have always felt that they really looked like they meant bussiness. Ready to do the job. I have three of them.
But the Sharks, I don't care for them, never have.
Just my opinion, not trying to change yours.
Johnboy out......................
from Saskatchewan, in the Great White North..
We have met the enemy, and he is us............ (Pogo)
Perceptions may change over time: initially, I didn't like the Sharks, either, but wouldn't mind seeing (and hearing) one running now, especially if it were wearing NYC lightning stripes.The low nose GP30 reminds me of late '50s automobiles...perhaps a '58 Chev or Pontiac. I don't mind seeing those old cars at a car show, but didn't care much for them at all when they were new. (I drove an early '50s car as my first.) High hood GP30s are fine with me, though.F- and E- units were okay, but FAs were better and FPAs the epitome of cab units. Oddly enough, I wasn't overly enamoured with the PA, nor Baby-faced Baldwins, C-Liners, or Erie-Builts, but all rank in the "okay" category nowadays.I perhaps should have listed the BL1/2 as my second least liked EMDs and put the low-nose GP30 in third place....but that would have put the Aerotrain in the top least-liked spot, even though it was actually a bus on rails.
Anyway, Kid, as I said in my original post, nice job on the paint and lettering on your BL2, despite the unfortunate fact that EMD's design team dropped the ball...the F-unit must've exhausted their good sense.
Wasnt this threah about BAR BL2's?
Maine_Central_guy Wasnt this thread about BAR BL2's?
Wasnt this thread about BAR BL2's?
Been away for a while.
Thanks for all the nice comments and interesting observations on design and paint scheme.
I don't know what it is about BL2s but they have been one of my favorite models since I began the hobby again 10 or so years ago. Perhaps it was because until I bought my first one, I had no idea such a design had been in production. And my Monon BL2 was the first model I bought. I had no idea there was such a railroad as well. I guess the novelty of the new knowledge grabbed me. I have 7 now and they are my ugly beauties.
My appologies for going off topic - blame it on Wayne! The PM is so rare when someone mentions it you better speak up quick before the subject changes, even if it isnt on topic. And as popular as the Chessie is, im suprised i dont see more of it. I remember when Chessie registered their logo. There are modellers out here still today that are steaming mad about that one!
Wayne - I meant to get back to your post above but got sidetracked (pun intended). Your right about the northern part of the CSX family (B&O, C&O, etc) changing schemes alot. Numbering too. Im pretty sure it had alot to do with ownership/management changes which seemed to change just as much.
In fact, it was a retired C&O RPO crew member that turned me on to the PM via a C&OHS newsletter. I was already hooked on the C&O from the teachings of my mentor at the time. However thats where it ends. After NS and CSX banned steam, i returned the favor by banning them from railfanning. Makes it hard to railfan on the east coast when thats pretty much all there is to look at though.
I am glad to see someone out there with PM models other than me. However, if I am ever lucky enough to tour your layout, I expect you to back up your statements.
Forgiving C&O for the takeover? Well, if it had to happen, im glad it was the C&O. Though a NKP-PM merger wouldnt have been that bad either.
I came the the thread hoping to see the BL2 model by the OP in another BAR scheme which i think IMHO is the best applied. As I said above im not much for the pastel blue color scheme. Though the OP did a very fine job on the model!
I will relent to the fact I favor the BL2 and the GP30. Im a PM fan.... im used to being in the vast minority of things. Hopefully, and with alot of luck im sure, I have a BL2 that will eventually go from undecorated to PM. Yes I know, they didnt have any, but they did order them. Thats where the C&O got theirs. Without having said that, how many of you knew that? Besides, a little modellers licensing never hurt, right? When the time comes, possibly I can post my PM BL2 and yall can talk about the Great Northern.
Once again to the OP, nice job on the BAR BL2. Nice to see a locomotive 'type' not usually modelled. Appologies for the topic change.