Good Evening to you all.
I would like to ask "does anybody have the insrution sheet for 1 of the above"?
I bought 1 at a collectors meet last sunday, but, upon getting back home and looking at the model,
a door was missing.
I have looked through all 4 of my Walthers and HOseeker and HO resourses.
I have only found a Lifelike Proto2000 model that is anywhere near, but is only a single deck.
Hope somebody can help or suggest a company who might make doors for such a model.
Many thanks
Garfield
This one?
There were a couple of different owners and road numbers, but the cars were basically all the same. They are a Walters Proto kit.
I've e-mailed Walthers before asking for a copy of an instruction sheet, and I had a PDF in my inbox an hour later. That's one approach. I'll look around and see if I saved the instructions when I built this one.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
At first I had visions of cattle on the lower level and a lighter load- chickens or turkeys- in the upper berth. Then, when I searched for Google images of the real thing, it was teenaged porkers coming down the ramp from the upper berth at the Chicago yards in the late 1910s or early 1920s in the photo I found online.
Pretty efficient loading, with the little baconators above and below!
A few of those double Deckers would look appropriate on my layout, but oh, what a cleaning job after the car was emptied!!!
Cedarwoodron
Also sheep
George In Midcoast Maine, 'bout halfway up the Rockland branch
Mr. B's pic is an illustrative example. Many double-deck cars had the dual door arrangement, as it made controlling the animals' exit somewhat easier to control.
Some double-deck cars had only single height doors. The ones I'm thinking of are the Rio Grande's double-deck narrowgauge cars, used primarily for sheep. Many of their loading points had double-deck loading ramps, so the dual door arrangement may not have been needed. The Rio Grande's standard gauge double-deck stock cars, however, had dual doors.
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
Westerfield makes, or made, a double deck stock car and I have never seen one so cannot say whether the doors are separate castings or not. I checked their website and they do not offer stock car doors as separately sold parts - but it cannot hurt to ask. A cat can look at a king.
AHM for a time sold a double deck stock car and I checked mine - the doors are integral to the casting so I am sure that is not what you have (it is actually not a shabby model). Some train set manufacturer makes or made a hi-cube modern cushion underframe double deck stock car somewhat like the late model huge pig palace that the NP had. but different in many details. And the doors are integral to the casting.
I think your best bet might be to track down Athearn single deck stock car door castings and kitbash the double deck doors using them (you'd need four such doors). Back when Athearn sold parts those were part # 17752. There is also the Central Valley NP prototype single deck stock car which sometimes shows up at swap meets (I suspect due to the challenge of assembly) and those doors too could be kitbash fodder. And stock car doors of any type are among the easier things to fabricate using styrene or wood of course, except for the door mechanism fittings.
Even in the heyday of parts (and boy are we far removed from those days but let's not start THAT thread up again) stock car doors were something pretty rare and double deck stock car doors? I don't know as I ever saw one as a replacement part.
Dave Nelson
cedarwoodron but oh, what a cleaning job after the car was emptied!!!
I always felt sorry for the critters on the lower level.
Seriously, its a neat looking stock car.
Up until recently I had resisted investing in stock cars but last week I found a listing on eBay for four old all wood single level stock cars. I haven't received them yet but from the pictures it looks like they were built from kits by somebody who knew what they were doing. They appear to be in excellent condition. The wheels and couplers will need to be changed and a couple of trucks are missing, but the paint is in good condition with only a slight patina which actually looks like well used stock cars would. Best of all, the price was reasonable. I'll post pictures on WPF once I get them tuned up.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Garfield1437....I would like to ask "does anybody have the insrution sheet for 1 of the above"?......
I have an instruction sheet for that car, and if you'll PM me with your e-mail address, I'll scan it and send it to you.
I got this car, as a kit, off the bargain table at my LHS. it was in a clear plastic bag, with no instructions, but looked interesting and was only a couple of bucks. According to the owner, it was a pre-production model, but no other info was forthcoming. I later learned its origin when LifeLike's Proto2000 cars made their debut. It wasn't particularly difficult to build, but I ditched the plastic grabirons and substituted with Tichy wire ones. I modified the lettering boards to reflect Canadian practice, and lettered it for my home road. The bag contained no trucks, so I used some from my supply - they may be from Lindberg, but I'm not sure.
Over the years, I picked-up several more of these cars, both single- and double-decked, all as partially-built kits off the bargain table. One or two happened to have the instructions included, too.
As for the missing door, I'd suggest some Evergreen .020"x.040" and .020"x.060" strip. Use the single door which you have as a pattern, but don't be too concerned if your efforts don't match the others exactly - cars were repaired all the time, and not always by the homeroad, so a slightly different door wouldn't be unprototypical.
Wayne
hon30critterI always felt sorry for the critters on the lower level.Smile, Wink & GrinLaughLaugh
Dave, we know how they feel, we know how they feel.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Careful Brent! We are not supposed to talk about politics on the forums, no matter how accurate the comment is!
Thanks for the good laugh!
All the best,
That's a passenger train rural whistle stop privy, but subject to the same difficulties when it comes time to clean
Pig Palace example pics...
The short one
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/np/np84164ajs.jpg
The long one
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41529
I have the opposite of a Pig Palace (Pig Doghouse?) It's a double deck four wheeler with a guard's (brakeman's) compartment, aka cruel and unusual punishment for rear end crew.
When it's loaded, the conductor moves into the cab with the front end crew.
Incidentally, it only has a single door on each side. Don't know how loading/unloading were handled - on my layout it just runs from staging to staging and spends a lot of time stored off-layout in a cassette.
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
If the OP shows up again, I scanned the instructions right after posting my original reply, and they're available via the method mentioned.
doctorwayne If the OP shows up again, I scanned the instructions right after posting my original reply, and they're available via the method mentioned. Wayne
Wayne,
If You want, You can PM Me and send Me the info and I will forward it to Him....I have His E -mail addy and We contact one another...I don't believe He would want Me to give it out!
He lives in the UK.
Take Care!
Frank
Garfield, I've sent you a PM regarding the scans. Apparently the "Messages" function in our Profiles no longer turns red when there's a new message.
Double Deck stock cars are for pigs, he said sheepishly.
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS