tstageI feel your pain, Henry, and do like shorter paragraphs and punctuations for clarity. And, while I do my utmost to work through posts where comments and ideas are a challenge to understand because of the above, a few posts - sadly - I have to give up on because it's mentally exhausting to make sense of them.
Eh? Try ancient Hebrew: All caps, all right to left, no vowles, no space between words. Not to mention funny characters.
And no, I have never tried it.
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Henry:
I absolutely agree!
I honestly am repulsed by posts that do exactly what you are describing in your second example, and I am unlikely to answer them.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
The problem with relying on spellcheck is that it won't catch your mistake when you write "to" when you mean "too", or "your" when you mean "you're", or "there" when you mean "their".
Steve
― Mark Twain
greg - Philadelphia & Reading / Reading
When I open a post and see that kind of writing my eyes glaze over and my mind breaker trips causing me to move on.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
I feel your pain, Henry, and do like shorter paragraphs and punctuations for clarity. And, while I do my utmost to work through posts where comments and ideas are a challenge to understand because of the above, a few posts - sadly - I have to give up on because it's mentally exhausting to make sense of them.
Thankfully, those are far and few between here on this forum. And poor spelling is MUCH more preferable to me than little to no punctuation.
Tom
https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling
Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
From posts on other forums, I know some people suffer the same affliction as I do. We can't read large symetrical blocks of text on a computer screen. I am not picking on the newbie that posted this, nor am I the forum sheriff, I am just asking for some consideration.
This is infinitely more readable to me:
I was experiencing this issue with the PSX breakers back in August of 2014 and contacted DCC Specialties directly. Here is their response:
"Don't turn the blocks on and off; leave them on. Here is what is happening. Most of today's decoders have fairly large filter (or hold up) capacitors to ensure reliable operation even with dirty track, unpowered frogs, etc.
When you turn off the block, this filter capacitor discharges. When you turn the block on, the discharged capacitor is a dead short across the rails and draws a large current.
As the capacitor charges up, this current decays exponentially. The PSX detects this high current spike and trips. Depending on the specific current draw of the engines involved and the size of the input filter capacitor, some combinations may generate enough surge current to trip the breaker and some may just sneak under the wire.
You may correctly note that when the breaker turns off after tripping, these capacitors will again discharge, so you might ask why when the breaker turns on again is doesn't simply trip? The answer is that after it trips, the breaker KNOWS that it is turning on and it is looking for this current surge. It has special software built in that allows it to monitor and control this surge so that it can turn on with a large number of decoder loads without tripping.
The difference is that you are imposing this start-up load AFTER the breaker is on so it does not know that it is a start-up load and it does its job of turning off to protect the layout. So, the simple answer is to stop turning these blocks on and off. If, for operational reasons, you need to do this, then the other method is to use the PSX to turn the block on and off.
If you do it this way, the PSX knows the block is coming on and will not allow the start-up surge current to trip it. By default, all PSX devices can be turned on and off using accessory address 2042. Accessory command 1 turns it on, and 2 turns it off.
Following the directions in the PSX manual, you can change this default address to any value between 1 and 2042. One other thing you can try is to set CV49 to 4. This will increase the trip current threshold to around 6 amps. It will still trip with a true short (the NCE can easily output more than 6 amperes for a short time), but by increasing the limit, you are somewhat defeating the reason for the breakers in the first place: to protect the layout from current spikes and overloads."
So as a workaround, I increased the number of PSX breakers from 4 to 7. I installed the additional three breakers where I often throw block switches and do not want interference with other operations.
For example, the engine terminal now has its own PSX so that throwing a block switch there won't interfere with a train running on the main line.
Than this
"Don't turn the blocks on and off; leave them on. Here is what is happening. Most of today's decoders have fairly large filter (or hold up) capacitors to ensure reliable operation even with dirty track, unpowered frogs, etc. When you turn off the block, this filter capacitor discharges. When you turn the block on, the discharged capacitor is a dead short across the rails and draws a large current. As the capacitor charges up, this current decays exponentially. The PSX detects this high current spike and trips. Depending on the specific current draw of the engines involved and the size of the input filter capacitor, some combinations may generate enough surge current to trip the breaker and some may just sneak under the wire. You may correctly note that when the breaker turns off after tripping, these capacitors will again discharge, so you might ask why when the breaker turns on again is doesn't simply trip? The answer is that after it trips, the breaker KNOWS that it is turning on and it is looking for this current surge. It has special software built in that allows it to monitor and control this surge so that it can turn on with a large number of decoder loads without tripping. The difference is that you are imposing this start-up load AFTER the breaker is on so it does not know that it is a start-up load and it does its job of turning off to protect the layout. So, the simple answer is to stop turning these blocks on and off. If, for operational reasons, you need to do this, then the other method is to use the PSX to turn the block on and off. If you do it this way, the PSX knows the block is coming on and will not allow the start-up surge current to trip it. By default, all PSX devices can be turned on and off using accessory address 2042. Accessory command 1 turns it on, and 2 turns it off. Following the directions in the PSX manual, you can change this default address to any value between 1 and 2042. One other thing you can try is to set CV49 to 4. This will increase the trip current threshold to around 6 amps. It will still trip with a true short (the NCE can easily output more than 6 amperes for a short time), but by increasing the limit, you are somewhat defeating the reason for the breakers in the first place: to protect the layout from current spikes and overloads."
So as a workaround, I increased the number of PSX breakers from 4 to 7. I installed the additional three breakers where I often throw block switches and do not want interference with other operations. For example, the engine terminal now has its own PSX so that throwing a block switch there won't interfere with a train running on the main line.
****************those of us who arent mulenials kant read the half page of run on sentents and your kwasi spelin not enuf verbs and jus kuz you use an eye phone is no xcuse
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley