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Posted by tgindy on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:40 PM

Rubber-band diesel engines broke too often from overheating.  Good thing many of us got "free replacements" when we got our teeth-braces!

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:54 PM

BLI's animated Water tower has to be a silly idea.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:10 PM
While quite new to this hobby (OK obsession or 2nd mortgage), I would also add plastic wheel sets. They along with horn-hook couplers are just awful/
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:16 PM

When I was a kid, I had a "voice control" thing for my Lionels.  It had a "microphone" that you would talk into.  It wasn't really a microphone, just a momentary-off switch that would open on a bit of air pressure when you spoke into it.  It interrupted the voltage to the track, thus triggering a cycle of the Lionel engine's "E-unit."  So, if the train was running and you said "Stop," it would stop.  Unfortunately, of course, the E-unit would then back up the engine on the next cycle, so to maintain the illusion you had to tell the microphone "Reverse" or something, although, of course, saying "Beer" or anything else would have the same effect.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:18 PM

CSX_road_slug

For "just plain bad" I nominate: Horn-hook (X2F) couplers!

 

 

Ken,Those X2F couplers was needed in their day and when properly body mounted they worked quite well.

You see back then we had couplers,couplers every where that wouldn't  mate with other brands and most worked quite poorly.

The X2F was a good idea at the time but,the X2F turned bad when companies like Tyco,Mantua,Life Like and other like manufacturers cheapen them and placed them on the trucks instead of the body.

We have crappy couplers on the market that's worst then the X2F.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:23 PM

I had both the vertical launch missile, complete with a gantry tower that pulled back and a crane to lower the missile on to its launch pad, and the flatcar mounted "tactical" missile that I could shoot across my layout and hit .... the exploding box car!

Far from being bad ideas, though, these were good toys that added play value to my Lionels.  Is a giraffe car stupid?  No, not if it brings a smile to the face of a child.

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Posted by csxns on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:31 PM

The Yard Dog track cleaning thing it had a round cotton roll in front to clean the rails not enought weight to clean.

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Posted by davidmurray on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:45 PM

IMHO any track/roadbed system that has propriatory fastners.  Makes it difficult to interface with other manufacturers.  Good for first company, bad for hobby.

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Posted by DAVID FORTNEY on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:46 PM

Love those Tyco brand name cars, nicely painted and as a buyer for a grocery chain ( since retired ) I dealt with all of the companies listed. I may have to look some of them up next time I'm at a train show. 

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Posted by ndbprr on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 4:34 PM
Tyco 2-6-6-2 logging engine. MR said it would be a classic on every model railroad as I remember but sales never took off.
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Posted by Bernd on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 4:44 PM

The car with the propeller on end. MR had ads for it. Could it have been AHM?

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 4:53 PM

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wjstix

A bad idea from the very early days was giving your railroad a silly name. Thankfully that died out in the '40's - maybe the last well known 'silly' model railroad name was John Allen's "gory and defeated" G&D Line.

 

Now now, You're treading holy MR ground there with John Allen.  He is worshipped, er, well respected by many.  He did seem to be quite artistic from everything I've seen but to me it was in a Disney Land sort of way.  Now there have been some realistic artists since then such as Mike Danneman etc. well I'm biased.  He did a wonderful rendering of the D&RGW and scenery.  I have to add that Rob Spangler has done some wonderful photo-realistic backdrops and scenery too in this day and age.

 

 John himself came to regret the name in his later years, especially as he became more and more interested in serious operations. So silly names, and including the G&D in that, is definitely fair game, since the builder himself felt the same way.

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Posted by dknelson on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 5:10 PM

Ah yes the Atlas propeller driven "whatever it was" known as the Turbo Express.

http://www.hoseeker.net/AthearnBrochuresAds/TURBORACERFLYER.jpg

I would nominate the combined trainset/slot car sets that pretty much advertised the idea of "Hey kids!  Try to beat the train to the crossing."  

I read somewhere, by the way, that essentially none of the "horn hook" couplers used in train sets and sold to the public actually followed the NMRA coupler committee X2F design exactly.  For one I believe that the actual X2F had a square surface below the hook that enabled trains to run in reverse.  Or at least that was the hope.  How and why they came up with a design that had no similarity to a prototype coupler I do not know, but it might be that they were trying to avoid even looking like the then pre-magnetic Kadee.

When a modeler was not busy slathering on the asbestos cement onto his mountains and hills, he was cleaning his wheels with carbon tetrachloride.  And using raw mercury in small drilled holes to make the turntable indexing work (I no longer recall the whys behind the mercury but it was a real idea).  

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Posted by cedarwoodron on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 5:33 PM

As one who enjoys rebuilding, painting and redecaling Athearn BBS and old Tyco cars I pick up at the swap meets I attend, I must say that Tyco cars can often be reworked to a higher level (see my recent Soo Line caboose in the photo gallery ). 

More to the point:  many fads were purposefully marketed as toys, nothing more, perhaps much less. Those pink Lionel engines failed to entice very many girls into the model railroading hobby; "cute"  names for model railroads may more accurately reflect a hint of dis- ease with being a railroad aficianado, or desire to present ones hobby as actually being held at arms length when shown to others, perhaps to mitigate criticism that you "play with trains" as a mature adult. Who really knows? Fads are momentary, serve a limited purpose either commercially or socially, but one hopes that the pleasure of model railroading will endure!

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 5:53 PM

azrail

Yet those "lump tunnels" got Life-Like into the ice chest business (now called Lifoam)

 

Being a life long Marylander who has been in this hobby for 45 years, and who has been in the old Life Like factory, I will tell you that you have it backwards.

Coolers came first - styrofoam tunnels were something they could sell in the winter and make with the same machinery.

Life Foam is still today the largest maufacturer of styrofoam products in the world.

From the tunnels they got into other model train scenery items - grass mats, "grass", "dirt", ballast, trees, etc. Their factory was in a part of Baltimore full of wood working industries - sawdust for "grass" and grass mats was readily available - CHEAP.

Then later they bought most of the Varney assets and became one of the first China produced brands - later they hired a young local modeler who had worked in a local train store - who helped them develop the Proto line........

All that from a styrofoam cooler turned upside down with a couple of tunnel portals cut in the ends and some green paint........

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 6:15 PM

   As a young modeler I remember reading the construction articles by E. L. Moore in RMC and some in M-R, and he always had a tongue-in-cheek approach to naming his structure projects. He was a prolific builder and author and many of his structures were used to pattern structures that we still use today.

I guess, golly gee whiz, it was a "clever" aspect of the hobby that has not stood the test of time.

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Posted by Geared Steam on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 6:20 PM

Off themed train sets, like NASCAR..........as bad as pink train sets

Steamers without tender pickup.

Sawdust and RIT used for ground over, but then again, that was all we had.

Atlas under track mounted switch machines, good luck with those!

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Posted by DSchmitt on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 6:40 PM
Posted by Bernd on Wednesday, December 09, 2015 4:44 PM

"The car with the propeller on end. MR had ads for it. Could it have been AHM?

Bernd"

 

 

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The Turbo Express (ad link posted by dknelson) was a toy to take advantage of the slot car craze.   More accurate models have been made by others  such as Marklin and even Lionel. 

 

 

 

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Posted by hornblower on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 6:54 PM

Since most of my layout visitors are NOT into trains, I find that putting funny business names on my buildings is a way I can trick these people into being more interested.  Once they discover one funny name, they start looking at more and more structures to see what they can find.  Before long, they are praising the layout rather than sticking to the "grown man playing with trains" attitude they originally brought with them.

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:42 PM

"Switching puzzles" as a method of 'realisitc operation.'

 

Thank God they disappeared back in the 80s as professional railroaders became willing to admit they were modelers too.  I remember for a couple of years MR getting a fair number of letters saying "We'd never do that way, save brakemen's walking time, not moves!"  And one letter pointing out that by rearranging the track plan all the industries could be worked trailing point, and with two fewer turnouts to boot.

 

Disclaimer:  This post may contain humor, sarcasm, and/or flatulence.

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Posted by Mheetu on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:51 PM

IHC Vanderbilt Tender ..... think they over done it alittle

 

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Posted by arbe1948 on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:57 PM

I don't believe anybody has mentiond ASTRAC, "A Giant Step Forward In Model Railroading"

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:05 PM

chutton01
Would the "Olfactory Airs" layout scents from Mikros around the mid/late '80s be in the running for either silliest and/or lamest?

No, not even close as those are great.  I wish they still made them as I only have some of the set.  The only category they fall into is "no longer produced".

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:11 PM

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Horn hook couplers!

I don't see how anyone can even think that.   Before the X2F every vendor had their own version of couplers many were "dummies" that had to be manually lifted up and put "over" the next.  I guess many here don't remember those days.

Had it not been for the X2F coupler the HO market would never have taken off like it did in the late 1950s and early 1960s   I would put the X2F in the running for a spot on the "7 wonders of the model railroading world".

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Posted by davidmurray on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:13 PM

Geared Steam
Atlas under track mounted switch machines, good luck with those!

You mean there is something wrong with them????

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:15 PM

wjstix
A bad idea from the very early days was giving your railroad a silly name.

That might be a bad idea, but it certainly hasn't died off.   Seems we get a new batch of those and an associated thread concerning them each year right here on the forum.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:18 PM

Jimmy_Braum
BLI's animated Water tower has to be a silly idea.

Why?  How many animated things that Lionel has produced through the years help attract young people into the hobby?

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Posted by Ray Dunakin on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:43 PM

chutton01
Would the "Olfactory Airs" layout scents from Mikros around the mid/late '80s be in the running for either silliest and/or lamest?

 

I really wish those were still around! I would love to add the smell of creosote ties to my layout. To me, few things say "railroad" like the scent of creosote.

 

 

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Posted by fleetsailor1981 on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 10:26 PM

Lifoam was making ice chests before life-like was around. They started making train products to keep the factory working in the off season. 

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Posted by ctyclsscs on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 10:47 PM

Dave, you don't enjoy ramming your Athearn Genesis engines with slot cars?

Jim

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