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Building the Arbour Models 2-8-4 kit! (Finished!!)

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:09 AM

It is said that there is a thin line between genius and madness.

BowBow

Thanks for sharing,

Cheers the Bear.

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Posted by Southgate on Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:50 AM

Conghrats on conquering the impossible! Those scratchbuilt componenets are works of art. I rewatched the earlier videos, and just caught up with the later ones. Again this could be considdered an instruction video. When I saw that bent frame, I thought you hit a major setback! Great save!

And now I know, that if I ever have the opportunity to take on the challenge of this Arbour kit, I'll pass it up!Big Smile Dan

 

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Posted by CandOsteam on Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:16 PM

Darth,

Nice to see the K4 (or as they were called on the C&O, 'Big Mikes') build has now moved to detailing.  Mine thankfully is also running fine, with a NWSL gearbox/Maxon can.  I had a heck of a time fitting the new delrin spur gear because the knurled end of the 1/8 driver axle removed some of the gear bore as I pushed it on.  I had to put knurl marks in the middle of the axle to keep the gear from turning because of the slightly enlarged hole made by that darn axle end.  

Long story short, the mechanism is working well with just a few small linkages left to attach to the crossheads.  Detailing is about 70% done as she sits in a display case.  I obtained a PFM K4 tender years ago from a brass dealer in MD (PeachCreek Shops) when we were there to visit my wife's nephew who was at the Naval Academy at the time.  I will be using this tender behind the Arbour and relegate the one in the kit to water tender duties.  Thanks for the fun updates.

Look forward to the next part!

Joel

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, May 20, 2019 10:50 PM

Guess what I'm finally working on again!Big Smile

I finally have a good place to work on my bench again, I've gotten some practice in with some other projects, and I'm back to adding details to this thing.  There's a lot of work to do, so it will still be a little while before the video's ready, but things are coming together nicely.  I'll have to strengthen the rear of the frame though, because I noticed it's started to sag down under the weight of the body!

I was wondering, is the front of the smokebox supposed to be black or graphite?  Most photos I've seen suggest that it's black, but I've seen a few others where it was gray or graphite instead.

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Posted by Southgate on Monday, May 20, 2019 11:03 PM

Great to see you back on this one, Darth. Smoke box front color is largely a matter of choice, unless you are following a specific prototype. Graphite always looks good to me. Some roads like SP used a bright silver.  Dan

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 5:35 PM

Thanks!  I'll be painting it for C&O.

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:51 PM

Currently in the painting phase!  I'll finally have this done in just a few more days!Big Smile

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Posted by CandOsteam on Thursday, October 1, 2020 8:23 PM

That is great to hear.  Please share when complete. 

Joel

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, October 2, 2020 12:55 AM

Darth Santa Fe
Currently in the painting phase!  I'll finally have this done in just a few more days!

Awesome news. Please keep us all updated.

-Kevin

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Posted by PRR8259 on Friday, October 2, 2020 10:52 AM

Looking forward to seeing the images!

John

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Sunday, October 4, 2020 8:16 PM

PRR8259

Looking forward to seeing the images!

John

I'll be sure to put up a gallery in addition to the video!

Airbrushing is done as of today, so now I'm doing the touch up and highlights, and then comes the decals and clear coat.  The model will always look a bit rough in areas, but I think it'll at least look good overall.

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Tuesday, October 6, 2020 11:38 PM

IT'S DONE!  I'll have the video and gallery up in the next day or two!Big Smile

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Posted by Southgate 2 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 1:39 AM

AAGH!!!  A Darth post this late at night?  You're just teasing us now!

(and it's working)

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:27 PM

And here we go!  It's finally finished!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGiwT7hG6sE











It may not look as good as some of my other kits, but considering what it is, I'm happy with how it turned out. It's definitely a relief to be finished though!  There are still some things here and there that could be better, but I'll take care of all that later.  I'll also figure out a coal load eventually.  As of right now though, I'm done!Big Smile

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Posted by CandOsteam on Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:10 AM

Well done!  Congratulations on completing the Kanawha.  The hardest ones are always the most satisfying. Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:25 AM

Darth Santa Fe
I'm happy with how it turned out. It's definitely a relief to be finished though!  There are still some things here and there that could be better, but I'll take care of all that later.  I'll also figure out a coal load eventually.  As of right now though, I'm done!

As usual Darth you have done a masterful job of building a challenging kit!

Dave

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Posted by Wolf359 on Friday, October 9, 2020 3:39 PM

Wow! That looks great! Congratulations on your completion of this model! It's always satisfying when something you've been working on for a long time is finally ready to roll down the track.

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Posted by oldline1 on Friday, October 9, 2020 4:06 PM

Congratulations! It looks very nice and I know it's a huge relief to finally be finished with such a difficult and challenging kit. You're the first person I've seen that actually put one together and made it run! Looks great and I hope it gives you many miles of joy! When will you start that A3 kit?

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Posted by Southgate 2 on Friday, October 9, 2020 11:45 PM

Nice ending to the long story. What a good looking and running model, especially considering all the reworking of...everything!

I have to say, you saved the best for last. It's not how fast a model can run, but how slow that proves it's quality. It looked best in that final slow run by. Thanks for sharing! Dan

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Posted by rbturner on Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:15 AM

Very nice work. Thanks for documenting the project.

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Posted by dknelson on Saturday, October 10, 2020 11:02 AM

This is a genuine accomplishment.  Congrats

I wonder if any of the folks behind Arbour are still in the hobby and could see this.

There was a time, about the same time as Arbour, that a number of firms tried to revive the idea of the metal steam locomotive kit that would be cheaper than brass, which was beginning to skyrocket in price (and to us the brass prices back then seem low of course).  There was one firm that made mostly old time 1900 vintage steam, 4-6-0s and such, in cast metal that I can't recall the name of, very similar to Arbour and similarly problematic to build.  Tthere was also Lee Town, Boyd, and Mellor.  At the very least all of those firms did make and sell parts that many steam fans would sure like to have available now.

I do not wallow in nostalgia but from the standpoint of detail parts of many kinds I am not convinced that this is the greatest time to be a model railroader as some people insist it is.

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Saturday, October 10, 2020 4:42 PM

Thanks everyone!  This wasn't exactly the most fun I've had with a project, but I did enjoy finally getting it finished and running!

oldline1

When will you start that A3 kit? 

Sometime soon, but not immediately.  I have a lot of other projects still waiting to be finished.

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Posted by Southgate 2 on Saturday, October 10, 2020 10:59 PM

Dave, the name you can't remember, would that have been "The Locomotive Works"? I think I remember the reviews and then the reader feedback that the kits had lots of optional parts, but were reputed to be under par in quality for their price at the time. Dan

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, October 11, 2020 4:28 PM

Great work, very nice. I worked in a hobby shop and sold a few of those when they came out. While I am/was a loco kit builder, I never gave one of their kits a try.

These days I am more inclined to kit bash a RTR piece into what I want.

Sheldon

    

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Posted by tin can on Monday, October 12, 2020 4:49 PM

The Locomotive Company produced a kit with three interchangeable parts; a chassis; superstructure, and a tender.  I lusted for one when they came out in the mid 70's; I seem to recall they were priced around $100.00.  I picked one up on ebay a few years ago, for $100.00.  I haven't built it; may never build it.  I don't really model anything requiring an early 4-6-0; and some of the castings are crude when compared to brass locomotives or BLI / MTH offerings.  

Then again, I may assemble it, weather the heck out of it, and use it to model part of a dead line.

 

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