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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:57 AM
Haha made me laugh plane_crazy. If anyone wants to give the details on there layout feel free and dont forget to include pictures if you can.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:26 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ben_ringrose

Haha made me laugh plane_crazy. If anyone wants to give the details on there layout feel free and dont forget to include pictures if you can.

Thanx for the replies
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Well Ben,

Even though that wasn't my intention I'm glad you got a laugh out of it.

The reason I gave you so much detail was to help encourage and give you some ideas. When I was 15, I didn't know anything about having a "Theme" [:)] for a railroad or making it interesting by putting industries on the layout that would use the types of freight cars I liked.

Nor was I interested in switching and dropping freight cars off to customers. Engine service facility? Didn't see a need. I was just interested in seeing trains run. I think I've come a long way since then. Thanks to this magazine, I've learned so much more in 2 decades.

Since there was no "internet" in the 70s and 80s, information was a MUCH SLOWER process back then. Thanks to this forum, even teenagers in high school that work part time, budget their money and have supportive a family can build attractive, realistic looking layouts that are fun to operate.

Peace and High Greens, Amigo!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:55 PM
When I first started to consider builbing a MRR I didnt even consider including any industry and now I have plans for some mining and logging. I still cant wait to get a trian up and running but I need a new engine first.

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Posted by railman on Sunday, October 31, 2004 5:00 PM
all I had when I was 15 was a bachmann F unit (Santa Fe, of course). Had I had the forums...I might be a UP fan right now...j/k.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 5:30 PM
I hope to get a new engine soon.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:04 PM
keep the post coming
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, November 1, 2004 5:57 AM
Ben,

Do you have an idea what type of engine you'd like or in what railroad name?

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Posted by Fergmiester on Monday, November 1, 2004 6:30 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emeraldisle

QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

QUOTE: Originally posted by Fergmiester

Beware of the "Forum Inquisition" as they will hang you high!


Fergmiester,

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Ve von't have to hang um high, ve have other vays of getting our information. Yesss!!, just sit down right hear. Bring in the battery and cables, yes ve do have our vay's, yes????!![:-,][:-,][:-,]


Well Chief, due to the sensitive nature of this, I think it's time for the "Cone of Silence"

I'll sign this Max

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, November 1, 2004 7:00 AM
Fergimiester, Oops!

Sorry we can't do the "Cone of Silence" yet..........

Darn shoe phone's ringing! Agent 44 is stuck in the ice machine again!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 12:23 PM
The cone of silence??

Please explain

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Posted by railman on Monday, November 1, 2004 1:34 PM
old TV show reference...I'll let them explain it.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, November 1, 2004 2:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by railman

old TV show reference...I'll let them explain it.


O.K...........[#offtopic][#offtopic][#offtopic][#offtopic][swg]

Popular tv show from the 1960s that's still in syndication. Catch it! I still think it's hilarious. Was called GET SMART. Inspired by the James Bond movies, it was a comical but cool show centering around the adventures of Secret Agent Maxwell Smart played by Don Adams. His boss was only known as "The Chief". His lovely female partner had no name, just "Agent 99". Max had neat gadgets including a shoe that was also a telephone. Later an android robot named "Jaime" came on as a regular with his stone cold yet, human personality. Celebrities appeared on the show from time to time.

Agent 44 [:o)]was the poor *** that usaully delevered info out in the field. He was always inside: a mailbox, ice cream machine, soda machine, etc. The cone of silence: Plastic see-through dome that came down and covered the heads of the two people at a table(usually Max and The Chief) whenever they were discussing top secret "stuff" and didn't anyone else to hear. Crazy stuff!

Ironically in the 1980s, Don Adams did the cartoon voice of "Inspector Gadget". If you watched this cartoon, it would give you an idea of what Get Smart was like. Also, in the old "Underdog" cartoon that still comes on Don Adams did the voice of the penguin "Tennessee Tuxedo". Just like Smart, always cooking up hairbrain ideas.

Now.......................Back to trains! So, what type of locomotive were you considering? Any favorite railroad you'd like it in?

If you're into American mountain railroading, plenty of roads would fit the bill: Rio Grande, Union Pacific, Southern Pacific, Burlington Northern, just to name a few. And of course there's the Alaska Railroad and Canadian Pacific.

10-4!

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Monday, November 1, 2004 6:45 PM
We don't get those shows currently, especially not Tennessee Tuxedo, so I have to stick with the Munsters! Or work on my layout. Thankfully with the way I have things set up I can do both at the same time.
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Posted by railman on Monday, November 1, 2004 7:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

QUOTE: Originally posted by railman

old TV show reference...I'll let them explain it.


O.K...........[#offtopic][#offtopic][#offtopic][#offtopic][swg]

Popular tv show from the 1960s that's still in syndication. Catch it! I still think it's hilarious. Was called GET SMART. Inspired by the James Bond movies, it was a comical but cool show centering around the adventures of Secret Agent Maxwell Smart played by Don Adams. His boss was only known as "The Chief". His lovely female partner had no name, just "Agent 99". Max had neat gadgets including a shoe that was also a telephone. Later an android robot named "Jaime" came on as a regular with his stone cold yet, human personality. Celebrities appeared on the show from time to time.

Agent 44 [:o)]was the poor *** that usaully delevered info out in the field. He was always inside: a mailbox, ice cream machine, soda machine, etc. The cone of silence: Plastic see-through dome that came down and covered the heads of the two people at a table(usually Max and The Chief) whenever they were discussing top secret "stuff" and didn't anyone else to hear. Crazy stuff!

Ironically in the 1980s, Don Adams did the cartoon voice of "Inspector Gadget". If you watched this cartoon, it would give you an idea of what Get Smart was like. Also, in the old "Underdog" cartoon that still comes on Don Adams did the voice of the penguin "Tennessee Tuxedo". Just like Smart, always cooking up hairbrain ideas.

Now.......................Back to trains! So, what type of locomotive were you considering? Any favorite railroad you'd like it in?

If you're into American mountain railroading, plenty of roads would fit the bill: Rio Grande, Union Pacific, Southern Pacific, Burlington Northern, just to name a few. And of course there's the Alaska Railroad and Canadian Pacific.

10-4!


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 7:30 PM
Hey me again. Im not sure what type of engine I want right now I was thinking a CPR red and white one if they have them around. There really common here in canda and look really sharp.

Keep the post comin

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Posted by egmurphy on Monday, November 1, 2004 7:55 PM
Ben

I wasn't originally going to post on this thread, but I saw elsewhere that you live in Redcliff, Alberta. I lived in The Hat for a couple of years back in the mid-70's. I'm not sure they even had a hobby shop back then. It was during one of my many breaks from the hobby, so who knows.

As I recall, Medicine Hat had a great railway station downtown. Real old classic railroad architecture. I hope they haven't torn it down. I wonder how much of the old railyard and facilities are still left?

If you haven't already done so, I suggest you get out and about with your camera and take as many shots as you can of all the rail facilities in the area that you can legally get access to. Also any lineside industries, bridges, elevators, etc. It's amazing how fast that stuff disappears and you don't want to look back twenty years from now and regret not taking shots of it while you still can.

Out of curiosity, is the Redcliff Hotel still there? How about the Westlander and the Assinboine over in Medicine Hat? I can still remember seeing Ian Tyson perform live at the Westlander, oh centuries ago.


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 8:03 PM
You will be happy to hear that none of the railroad stuff has been torn down, but it is no longer in use. The train station that is. The track is still comonly used every day and they have a spectacular yard with a bridge crossing over it making for an awsome picture oppertunity. I will get down there ASAP and get some good pictures, thanx for the idea.
The Redcliff Hotel the Westlander(diffrent name) and the Assinboine are still around although I havent been to them because Im only 15.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, November 1, 2004 8:27 PM
Right up your alley as CP performs some very impressive mountain railroading. You would have really liked that PBS special featuring the mile+ long CP freight train with 5 engines going through a mountain. Cars were mostly the newer style "cylindrical hoppers".

Cool highlight was that the engineer in the cab was speaking to the camera as he moved his train. While he seemed to enjoy his job, he was commenting how a locomotive engineer's biggest concern on that long, downhill stretch of track was that if he lost control the train would turn into a dangerous, uncontrollable "runaway"! With a mile or so of cars behind him, that would have been an incredible mess!

Kato makes the EMD SD40-2 and the GE AC4400CW in N scale. Check them out at
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 8:27 PM
AAhhh: All"s well that ends well, I love happy endings, don"t you???

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 11:51 PM
Whats a happy ending ??

Keep on posting

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 5:59 AM
Ben,

Have you considered pursuing the Kato units? They are expensive (around $100). You can check discount stores on line as well as Ebay.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 1:07 PM
Hey do you think you could tell me more about these Kato units?

Thanx and keep on posting

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 1:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ben_ringrose

Hey do you think you could tell me more about these Kato units?

Thanx and keep on posting
Benjamin R.


Just go to www.katousa.com

Not too much to tell except that the quality is good; running is smooth.

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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 5:03 PM
If you're looking for the AC4400CW in CP colors, including the Golden Beaver paint scheme and the Two Flags paint scheme, Wig-Wag-Trains has them on special for $63 (U.S.) right now. Not sure how many they have in stock.

(I have no connection with Wig-Wag, but they are a highly recommended internet N scale train store).

http://www.wig-wag-trains.com/KatoPages/Kato-AC4400CW-Product-Page.htm

I have a Kato SD70MAC and it's a great engine. But I wouldn't try running it on real tight curves (like 9-3/4"). I would assume the AC4400CW has the same mechanism.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 5:28 PM
93/4 curves would be too sharp??
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Posted by egmurphy on Wednesday, November 3, 2004 11:57 AM
Okay, since you asked I went and got my Kato SD70MAC out of it's box and ran it around the layout a couple of times. (I think we can safely assume that the SD70MAC and the AC4400CW are similar enough in mechanism and operation). Let me reword what I said because it's probably not exactly correct as written.

1. Will the SD70MAC go around an N scale 9-3/4" radius curve?

answer: yes, it will.

2. Is there anything I might need to be concerned about in running this type of large diesel on such tight turns?

answer: Yes, there are two concerns:

a. At that minimum radius the engine will be very unforgiving of any trackwork that is not very well done. Any slight kink in rail joints will give it a possible reason to derail. Of course that just means that you need to take care in assembling the track and be extra careful that you don't try to squeeze something in by making a connection between two sections of track slightly kinked. But you should always be striving for excellent trackwork in any case.

b. That long engine will have considerable overhang inside the curve which to many people looks very unrealistic. While it's about the same overall length as the Kato Mikado 2-8-2 for example, the Mikado is hinged between the engine and tender and demonstrates less overhang.


I think that if I was limited in space for a layout but still wanted to run this type of locomotive I might at least try to use the 11" curves as a minimum radius. It won't help much with the looks but might help out just a bit with the trackwork. Of course you can use flextrack and wind up with something in between the sectional track choices of only 9-3/4", 11", and 18" radius curves.

Just my opinion, your radius may vary,

Ed
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 3, 2004 3:56 PM
Im using flextrack so is they any pointers you can give me ojn making smooth joints were two pieces meet?

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Posted by egmurphy on Wednesday, November 3, 2004 4:24 PM
Okay young master Ben, time for you to learn about using the great 'search' feature they have here. I only suggest this because there have been several recent threads answering this very point so I know you can find some good info by searching first.

Up in the blue bar near the top of the page there's a place on the right with a box with "Search the forums", a button "go", and the word "Advanced'. Click on Advanced. Type in Laying Flex Track in the keywords box. Farther down on the 'choose forum' menu, select either Model Railroader General Discussion or Model Railroader Layout Building (you probably want to do the search twice, once in each forum), then change 'October' in the first date line to 'January' or however far back you want to search.

Try that first and see how much info you bring up on laying flex track. It's worth getting used to the search function, this one works pretty good.

Regards

Ed


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 3, 2004 4:32 PM
thanx that will realy cut down on my questions.

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