richhotrain I beg to differ. Quality may be high, but prices definitely are not low. This is a very expensive hobby. Rich
I beg to differ. Quality may be high, but prices definitely are not low.
This is a very expensive hobby.
Rich
Disclaimer: This post may contain humor, sarcasm, and/or flatulence.
Michael Mornard
Bringing the North Woods to South Dakota!
richhotrainThis is a very expensive hobby.
Well, compared to chess, yes.
I should add that I think prices are generally "reasonable." Low is for when things are on sale or close-out.
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
Bayfield Transfer Railway Also, frankly, quality IS high, and prices ARE low.
Also, frankly, quality IS high, and prices ARE low.
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Yep...right there with you on that.
Chuck - Modeling in HO scale and anything narrow gauge
There must be an echo in this forum.
Cheers, the Bear.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Alton Junction
mlehmanthe belief that if somehow people seem to be complaining about it enough, that vendors will suddenly one day drop all pretense of obeying the basic laws of economics and cut their prices 25% across the board, with weekly half-off sales. Doubt it's gonna happen, but some folks are real believers in the squaeky wheel gets the grease theory. But put that small irritating noise up against the fact that most stuff sells out in a pretty short while and that tells you there's a large silent majority who don't have a major problem with pricing in the hobby.
And the gentleman pretty much summarizes the topic perfectly. Well said.I'm off to get a beer. Last person out turn off the lights, s'il vous plait.
No you are not on a fantasy trip, by any means.
2nd to last paragraph.
WHY NOT!!!
trwroute iii) some people have all the sense of humor of a compound fracture I have a feeling that I may be one of those that this comment is directed.
Nah, could be me. My reply that things actually look a lot like high quality/low prices from my POV was about as humorless as those who think the whole idea is simply to mock a serious concern. But I can do a great Alfred E. Neumann impression, so am not sweating this. Personally, I'd be OK with MR creating a subforum, Price Whining, and confining such talk there for those who must.
Before the internet, when confronted with what they considered to be a "high" price, people would say, "Hey, I can make that!"
After the internet, it's so much easier to just log in and complain about the price.
And I am vastly oversimplifying things. But I gotta admit that all the concern about price would be better informed if it was more about value and realistic expectations. You couldn't buy it all this year if you were building a mega-layout from scratch, let alone build it. Stretch out those plans if the cost-curve is too steep. Consider alternatives. It's amazing how much changing prototype and adjusting expectations can do for one's budget in some cases. You can build a plastic RR on a brass budget, but not vice versa, so do some planning and forecasting there is nothing I've ever really needed in model railroading that I eventually could not afford if I planned for it.
But this is all about basic household budgetting. I see nothing specifically to do with model railroading in it. For me, all the talk about high prices is pretty much off-topic, because it's sure not about model railroading any more than saving up for that new patio set is.
But I'll also recognize it's a habit for some to beat this poor old horse into horseburger with the belief that if somehow people seem to be complaining about it enough, that vendors will suddenly one day drop all pretense of obeying the basic laws of economics and cut their prices 25% across the board, with weekly half-off sales. Doubt it's gonna happen, but some folks are real believers in the squaeky wheel gets the grease theory. But put that small irritating noise up against the fact that most stuff sells out in a pretty short while and that tells you there's a large silent majority who don't have a major problem with pricing in the hobby. I'm just guessing on that, but I know what I think and that's good enough for me. I'm going to get back to model railroading -- after some more of that w**k stuff.
csxns Burlington Northern #24 You should switch to N. Think i will start drinking.
Burlington Northern #24 You should switch to N.
Think i will start drinking.
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SGTDUPREY?feature=guide
Gary DuPrey
N scale model railroader
Quote:
Wow...I never expected this kind of response! As the op of this thread, I would like to thank everyone for keeping this thread argument free. I do appreciate the different opinions as it makes for a lively conversation.
Chuck,
This pointless thread...Is it really that much different then the quote from the thread above?
Relax...It's just fun and some humor, nothing personal to anyone. Innocent fun for a change. No fires allowed.
Take Care!
Frank
Burlington Northern #24You should switch to N.
Russell
b60bpHeck, I've even seen guys moan and grown about having to read threads on topics they can't stand reading about anymore, but they keep reading them.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Bayfield Transfer RailwaySo, this thread and the other one about prices have proveni) some people will bellyache about everythingii) some people don't believe in inflation because wharrgarbleiii) some people have all the sense of humor of a compound fracture
Some folks even whine about other people's compaining. Heck, I've even seen guys moan and grown about having to read threads on topics they can't stand reading about anymore, but they keep reading them. Now that's a valid gripe!
Benny
Bayfield Transfer Railway So, this thread and the other one about prices have proveni) some people will bellyache about everythingii) some people don't believe in inflation because wharrgarbleiii) some people have all the sense of humor of a compound fracture
So, this thread and the other one about prices have proveni) some people will bellyache about everythingii) some people don't believe in inflation because wharrgarbleiii) some people have all the sense of humor of a compound fracture
You should switch to N.
'Nuff said /thread
zstripe Brent, Will that be with...or without cheese? Frank BTW: I found this highly detailed passenger Train Free:
Brent,
Will that be with...or without cheese?
BTW: I found this highly detailed passenger Train Free:
Rio Grande. The Action Road - Focus 1977-1983
Not to be overly critical, but someone missed a couple of spots there in the lower front.
Paul
Rich,
Yeah on the Preiser. Very easy to paint, mostly White, some Beige, a little Blue and Black. I tried all kinds of sticky glues and the one I found that worked the best...was Strawberry Jam and if You believe that..I'll tell you another one.
Laughter is a lot easier and more healthful than grumpy and whin'y.
Have A Good One..All!
zstripe BTW: I found this highly detailed passenger Train Free:
Frank, that is a helluva addition to your layout. Are those figures from Preiser?
This pointless thread...that I even stooped to participate in earlier, has given me a few chuckles and at least 2 good LMAOs. (both from pictures). Ah, at last a fun vent, even for complainers to enjoy not having fun in.
Even my wife got a good laff at the highly detailed passenger train. Priceless.
Anyway, how 'bouts a few P2k Alco S-1s for 29 bucks. (Did indeed pay that from train world, shoulda bought a slug of 'em for motors-n-gears)
zstripe
You sure wouldn't want to have had that Starbucks Venti and Brand Muffins before starting that trip!
I guess they heard that the first ten customers get a highly detailed passenger car for free at Walthers annual clearance sale!
The only difference between a highly detailed $100.00 car, or the identical car at $0.00 (free) is, the $100.00 car will give us a better class of Whiner.
And easily installed keep-alive LED module in said highly-detailed passenger car: $5.
Tom
https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling
Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
Awww nuts, now I feel the need to defend my thread. I actually started it in mock seriousness to counter the constantly recurring threads on the high cost of the hobby.
As the title to this thread exclaims, just think if quality were high and prices were low.
So, back to the original point (!) of this thread, and this is something I yearn for, how about a highly detailed passenger car for $30?
trwroute Wow...just wow. If there ever was a thread that needed to go away, this is it. At least the threads that complain about prices have merit. This thread is just dumb.
Wow...just wow. If there ever was a thread that needed to go away, this is it.
At least the threads that complain about prices have merit. This thread is just dumb.
You'll soon discover that there are worse threads than this on the forum. Just enjoying some levity. Please feel free to press the tiny yellow triangle at the bottom left corner of this post if you feel we aren't complaining enough about the high prices of MRRing.
Sorry guys. I'm not sure what made me make a pointless post in a pointless thread. My apologies!
Carry on!