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Just Think if Quality Were High and Prices Were Low

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:27 PM

richhotrain

I beg to differ.  Quality may be high, but prices definitely are not low.

 This is a very expensive hobby.

Rich

 

 
Golf green fees can be $100 per single game, easily.

Sailboats cost as much as a house.
 
A vintage WW2 aircraft can cost a million dollars or more, and cost several thousands of dollars per hour to fly.
 
This is a cheap hobby.
 

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:08 PM

richhotrain
This is a very expensive hobby.

Well, compared to chess, yes.

I should add that I think prices are generally "reasonable." Low is for when things are on sale or close-out.

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Posted by trwroute on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:30 PM

 

 
Bayfield Transfer Railway

Also, frankly, quality IS high, and prices ARE low.

 

 

 

I beg to differ.  Quality may be high, but prices definitely are not low.

 

This is a very expensive hobby.

Rich

 

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Yep...right there with you on that.  

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:28 PM

richhotrain
This is a very expensive hobby.

There must be an echo in this forum.

Cheers, the Bear. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:42 PM

Bayfield Transfer Railway

Also, frankly, quality IS high, and prices ARE low.

 

I beg to differ.  Quality may be high, but prices definitely are not low.

This is a very expensive hobby.

Rich

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:00 PM

Also, frankly, quality IS high, and prices ARE low.

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:58 PM

mlehman
the belief that if somehow people seem to be complaining about it enough, that vendors will suddenly one day drop all pretense of obeying the basic laws of economics and cut their prices 25% across the board, with weekly half-off sales. Doubt it's gonna happen, but some folks are real believers in the squaeky wheel gets the grease theory. But put that small irritating noise up against the fact that most stuff sells out in a pretty short while and that tells you there's a large silent majority who don't have a major problem with pricing in the hobby.

Whistling

 

 

And the gentleman pretty much summarizes the topic perfectly.  Well said.

I'm off to get a beer.  Last person out turn off the lights, s'il vous plait.

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Posted by Run Eight on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:28 PM

No you are not on a fantasy trip, by any means.

2nd to last paragraph.

WHY NOT!!!

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:27 PM

trwroute
iii) some people have all the sense of humor of a compound fracture I have a feeling that I may be one of those that this comment is directed.

Nah, could be me. My reply that things actually look a lot like high quality/low prices from my POV was about as humorless as those who think the whole idea is simply to mock a serious concern. But I can do a great Alfred E. Neumann impression, so am not sweating this. Personally, I'd be OK with MR creating a subforum, Price Whining, and confining such talk there for those who must.

Before the internet, when confronted with what they considered to be a "high" price, people would say, "Hey, I can make that!"Idea

After the internet, it's so much easier to just log in and complain about the price.Wink

And I am vastly oversimplifying things. But I gotta admit that all the concern about price would be better informed if it was more about value and realistic expectations. You couldn't buy it all this year if you were building a mega-layout from scratch, let alone build it. Stretch out those plans if the cost-curve is too steep. Consider alternatives. It's amazing how much changing prototype and adjusting expectations can do for one's budget in some cases. You can build a plastic RR on a brass budget, but not vice versa, so do some planning and forecasting there is nothing I've ever really needed in model railroading that I eventually could not afford if I planned for it.

But this is all about basic household budgetting. I see nothing specifically to do with model railroading in it. For me, all the talk about high prices is pretty much off-topic, because it's sure not about model railroading any more than saving up for that new patio set is.

But I'll also recognize it's a habit for some to beat this poor old horse into horseburger with the belief that if somehow people seem to be complaining about it enough, that vendors will suddenly one day drop all pretense of obeying the basic laws of economics and cut their prices 25% across the board, with weekly half-off sales. Doubt it's gonna happen, but some folks are real believers in the squaeky wheel gets the grease theory. But put that small irritating noise up against the fact that most stuff sells out in a pretty short while and that tells you there's a large silent majority who don't have a major problem with pricing in the hobby. I'm just guessing on that, but I know what I think and that's good enough for me. I'm going to get back to model railroading -- after some more of that w**k stuff.

Whistling

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:24 PM

csxns

 

 
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You should switch to N.

 

Think i will start drinking.

 

 

Drink away. 

 

 

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:19 PM

Quote:

Posted by trwroute on Monday, May 19, 2014 10:32 AM

Wow...I never expected this kind of response!  As the op of this thread, I would like to thank everyone for keeping this thread argument free.  I do appreciate the different opinions as it makes for a lively conversation.


 

 

Chuck,

This pointless thread...Is it really that much different then the quote from the thread above?

Relax...It's just fun and some humor, nothing personal to anyone. Innocent fun for a change. No fires allowed. Big Smile

Take Care!

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Posted by csxns on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:18 PM

Burlington Northern #24
You should switch to N.

Think i will start drinking.

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:14 PM

b60bp
Heck, I've even seen guys moan and grown about having to read threads on topics they can't stand reading about anymore, but they keep reading them.

 

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Posted by b60bp on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 2:41 PM

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So, this thread and the other one about prices have proveni) some people will bellyache about everythingii) some people don't believe in inflation because wharrgarbleiii) some people have all the sense of humor of a compound fracture

Some folks even whine about other people's compaining. Heck, I've even seen guys moan and grown about having to read threads on topics they can't stand reading about anymore, but they keep reading them. Now that's a valid gripe!

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Posted by trwroute on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 2:20 PM

Bayfield Transfer Railway

So, this thread and the other one about prices have proven

i) some people will bellyache about everything
ii) some people don't believe in inflation because wharrgarble
iii) some people have all the sense of humor of a compound fracture

 

 
I have a feeling that I may be one of those that this comment is directed. 
 
It's sad that someone posts a legitimate concern (high cost of the hobby) and that person becomes the butt of a joke.  Comments like this only add fuel to the fire.
 
I like this forum, but it sure seems like this topic gets everyone going.  Kind of like the old DCC-non DCC wars of years past.
 

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:02 PM

You should switch to N. 

'Nuff said /thread 

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:35 PM

So, this thread and the other one about prices have proven

i) some people will bellyache about everything
ii) some people don't believe in inflation because wharrgarble
iii) some people have all the sense of humor of a compound fracture

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:12 AM

Geeked

zstripe

Brent,

Yes Yes

Will that be with...or without cheese?

Big Smile

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:50 AM

zstripe

Brent,

Yes Yes

Will that be with...or without cheese?

Big Smile

Frank

BTW: I found this highly detailed passenger Train Free:

 

Not to be overly critical, but someone missed a couple of spots there in the lower front.Whistling

 

 

 

Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:38 AM

ClownRich,

Yeah on the Preiser. Very easy to paint, mostly White, some Beige, a little Blue and Black. I tried all kinds of sticky glues and the one I found that worked the best...was Strawberry Jam and if You believe that..I'll tell you another one. Laugh

Laughter is a lot easier and more healthful than grumpy and whin'y.

Have A Good One..All! Clown

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:51 AM

zstripe

BTW: I found this highly detailed passenger Train Free:

 

Frank, that is a helluva addition to your layout.  Are those figures from Preiser?

Rich

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Posted by Southgate on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:38 AM

This pointless thread...that I even stooped to participate in earlier, has given me a few chuckles and at least 2 good LMAOs. (both from pictures).  Ah, at last a fun vent, even for complainers to enjoy not having fun in.

Even my wife got a good laff at the highly detailed passenger train. Priceless.

Anyway, how 'bouts a few P2k Alco S-1s for 29 bucks. (Did indeed pay that from train world, shoulda bought a slug of 'em for motors-n-gears)

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, June 2, 2014 5:47 PM

zstripe

 

 

You sure wouldn't want to have had that Starbucks Venti and Brand Muffins before starting that trip!

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, June 2, 2014 5:09 PM

I guess they heard that the first ten customers get a highly detailed passenger car for free at Walthers annual clearance sale!

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, June 2, 2014 4:53 PM

Brent,

Yes Yes

Will that be with...or without cheese?

Big Smile

Frank

BTW: I found this highly detailed passenger Train Free:

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, June 2, 2014 4:48 PM

The only difference between a highly detailed $100.00 car, or the identical car at $0.00 (free) is, the $100.00 car will give us a better class of Whiner.Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by tstage on Monday, June 2, 2014 4:33 PM

And easily installed keep-alive LED module in said highly-detailed passenger car: $5.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, June 2, 2014 4:22 PM

Awww nuts, now I feel the need to defend my thread.  I actually started it in mock seriousness to counter the constantly recurring threads on the high cost of the hobby.

As the title to this thread exclaims, just think if quality were high and prices were low.

So, back to the original point (!) of this thread, and this is something I yearn for, how about a highly detailed passenger car for $30?

Rich   Big Smile

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Posted by tstage on Monday, June 2, 2014 3:57 PM

trwroute

Wow...just wow.  If there ever was a thread that needed to go away, this is it.

At least the threads that complain about prices have merit.  This thread is just dumb.

Chuck,

You'll soon discover that there are worse threads than this on the forum.  Just enjoying some levity.  Please feel free to press the tiny yellow triangle at the bottom left corner of this post if you feel we aren't complaining enough about the high prices of MRRing. Big Smile

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Posted by trwroute on Monday, June 2, 2014 3:56 PM

Sorry guys.  I'm not sure what made me make a pointless post in a pointless thread.  My apologies!Embarrassed

Carry on!

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