TO FORUM MODERATOR - How about closing inappropriate topics?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by yankeejwb

I had a lady that lived across the street from me growing up that made it her mission to see how often she could get the cops called on me because I had a band that practiced in our attic. were we loud? YUP! Was it causing a disturbance in the neighborhood? Yeah, in all honesty it was. But did she get anywhere by being hostile and tattling on me to the cops? Nope. Actually, it made me worse! If she had been friendly about it and used a little diplomacy, I know things would have been different. [B)][:D]

This is completely off this "off-topic" topic, but your post reminded me of someone I met who did handle the loud musician problem diplomatically. Someone moved into a house near his, separated only by a small expanse of woods. After a number of late, sleepless nights, he dragged himself through the woods and pounded on the door until someone heard him above the music. He politely asked if the person was aware how the loud music was, how well it travelled through the woods was and how late at night it was.

Realizing his behavior was disturbing the neighbors, the newcomer apologized, promised there would be no more problems and parted friends with his new neighbor. He was true to his word and either soundproofed the place or practiced elsewhere after that.

The time: Mid-1960's, the town: Woodstock, NY. The noisemaker: Bob Dylan.

Wayne

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Muddy Creek

QUOTE: Originally posted by yankeejwb

I had a lady that lived across the street from me growing up that made it her mission to see how often she could get the cops called on me because I had a band that practiced in our attic. were we loud? YUP! Was it causing a disturbance in the neighborhood? Yeah, in all honesty it was. But did she get anywhere by being hostile and tattling on me to the cops? Nope. Actually, it made me worse! If she had been friendly about it and used a little diplomacy, I know things would have been different. [B)][:D]

This is completely off this "off-topic" topic, but your post reminded me of someone I met who did handle the loud musician problem diplomatically. Someone moved into a house near his, separated only by a small expanse of woods. After a number of late, sleepless nights, he dragged himself through the woods and pounded on the door until someone heard him above the music. He politely asked if the person was aware how the loud music was, how well it travelled through the woods was and how late at night it was.

Realizing his behavior was disturbing the neighbors, the newcomer apologized, promised there would be no more problems and parted friends with his new neighbor. He was true to his word and either soundproofed the place or practiced elsewhere after that.

The time: Mid-1960's, the town: Woodstock, NY. The noisemaker: Bob Dylan.

Wayne

On the Osbornes, Ozzy through a log through a window and Sharon through a ham and produce at the neighbours........well maybe that's a bad idea.

[AntonioFP45]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jjwest870

well.. I am a long time member of the Atlas forums and spend a lot of time there but I have to say.. this forum, by far, has a very high concentration of valuable threads.
I have found it to be useful with little fluff.

Absolutely! I've gotten too much valueble info on this forum that would have taken me an incredibly long time of rustling through books and magazines to find. As long as the topics or posts are not vulgar, profanity laden, or as Bergie pointed out-political it seems that we should be able to let the "fluff" float on through. [;)][8)]

If it's not interesting, bypass it. After going through 3 or 4 MTH topics in which there was quite a lot of heat [|(] [banghead] [:0] being displaced it seems like light hearted topics wouldn't be harmful here. [:p][:D][8D][8)]

[Anonymous]

yankee:

You have a good wife. I think my experience has been losing the battle and losing the war lol

[Anonymous]

I see no problem with how the forum has been going lately. We could use a little humor or "off track" posts once in a while.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

I see no problem with how the forum has been going lately. We could use a little humor or "off track" posts once in a while.

I applaud the move made. here. "Humor or off track" posts that include religious or political themes have proven themselves to be a magnet for trouble. If the subjects could be discussed reasonably and cordially it would be fine. The record here shows that it soon turns into a flame war by those too immature to participate in a cordial manner.

While I hate political discussions here, I've never been able to turn my back on what I consider wrong statements or outright lies. As a result, I've personally been excoriated for offering a counter view to certain political statements made in the forums. I've also been accused of taking away people's right of free speech for suggesting these discussions don't belong in a Train forum.

Again, thank you for restoring the forum to its primary mission, a discussion of railroading.

Wayne

[Anonymous]

"While I hate political discussions here, I've never been able to turn my back on what I consider wrong statements or outright lies. As a result, I've personally been excoriated for offering a counter view to certain political statements made in the forums. I've also been accused of taking away people's right of free speech for suggesting these discussions don't belong in a Train forum."

Wayne,
As reader of many forums , it's attitudes like yours that screw it up for others and really **** people off . Because your type is hard pressed to be civil . Your type just can't leave alone and move on . Nobody forces you to reply . And what makes you and those like you the the arbitrers of what is wrong or a lie . It's just your opinion . Like a bunch of old ladys on here .
My favoite saying is . " What goes around comes around "
Unless you do point to point
Certainly time for me to move on , it's only a hobby !
Joe

[Anonymous]

Certainly, no one is forced to reply. Likewise no one is forced to post incendiary statements and shouldn't expect no one to offer a differing view when they do.

I'm a bit confused. Is it attitudes like mine that screw it up by disagreeing with someone's opinion or by suggesting we discuss the topic for which our hosts are providing the forum? Never mind, it was only a rhetorical question.

If I was interested, I'd ask, exactly what "my type" is. I didn't realize I'm "hard pressed to be civil." Thanks for your imput. I'll try to be more civil in the future.

Again, I thank the forum administrator's efforts to keep our discussion on topic.

Civilly yours,

Wayne

[3railguy]

I agree that having our political and religious views challenged on train forums is inappropriate. As someone else posted it entices flame wars. Simply because we want to get away from it all and discuss trains.

[Anonymous]

Can we please move on here....this is getting old.............delete delete delete!

Funny how this topic is getting SOO much attention..(pun intended).

Jim

[Anonymous]

Brunton,


Since you saw fit to include me and 2 of my post I feel it only right to give you my thoughts,

First if you really did read the actual message and not just the topic you would know that I am by my own admission a newbie, I wanted to learn so I asked a question to which I recieved replies from those who were interested in responding. there were many who read this but did not reply that was there choice. It is like TV if you dont like the program turn the channel.

Second the topic "Who here is a Firefighter" was written to ask those who would know about the way a true fire or accident scene would look like to gain some knowledge. Firefighting was a common interest that some shared, some did not that's ok. I would then assume by your assault of these forums and the moderators that in your would only trains may be talked about. This is my hobby not my life.

I told myself to just dismiss your remarks but felt a sense of disbelief that any one would not be allowed to ask a question here.

THE ONLY DUMB QUESTION IS THE ONE NOT ASKED.

Censorship, the word can stir many passionate feelings. I will not subcribe to any forum that censors it members and removes the human aspect of this hobby and neither should anyone else.

If I have said anything to offend you Sir I apoligize right here and now. My words are ment to invoke thought not anger.

[tstage]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

I try to keep my political, social, and religious views to myself.


The SINGLE biggest reason I am still a LONE WOLF modeler today and do not socialize much with others in the hobby is that eventually Politics or Religion get brought into the fray, and "Oh you didnt vote for the so-and-s0" or "You dont believe THAT religion" type issues get brought up and it just goes to Hell on a tobagon after that...Thats the danger here, it just gets people devisive, bitter, and creates the same social/political/religious cliche's that have in my opinion screwed up the country.


As for me...just to clear up my position.

Political Party - Monster Raving Loony Party ( Originally created in England, Mr. Graham Chapman and Mr John Cleese our first party nominies)

Social Viewpoint- Usually scoping the room looking Cool sipping a Gin and Tonic!

Religion - upstanding member, 24hr Drive-Thru Church of Elvis, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Thank'ya Ma'am....[8D]

Oops! Mr. "vsmith"? It appears you just disregarded your prime directive. Oh, well. We'll let you off the hook this time...

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

I try to keep my political, social, and religious views to myself.


The SINGLE biggest reason I am still a LONE WOLF modeler today and do not socialize much with others in the hobby is that eventually Politics or Religion get brought into the fray, and "Oh you didnt vote for the so-and-s0" or "You dont believe THAT religion" type issues get brought up and it just goes to Hell on a tobagon after that...Thats the danger here, it just gets people devisive, bitter, and creates the same social/political/religious cliche's that have in my opinion screwed up the country.


As for me...just to clear up my position.

Political Party - Monster Raving Loony Party ( Originally created in England, Mr. Graham Chapman and Mr John Cleese our first party nominies)

Social Viewpoint- Usually scoping the room looking Cool sipping a Gin and Tonic!

Religion - upstanding member, 24hr Drive-Thru Church of Elvis, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Thank'ya Ma'am....[8D]

Oops! Mr. "vsmith"? It appears you just disregarded your prime directive. Oh, well. We'll let you off the hook this time...

I dont think so...Just keeping the air clear so no one thinks I'm being biased...two of the above are true, one isnt . For dramatic tension, I'll keep which one is false to myself ....

[:p][;)][:D]

[dharmon]

HE"S A GUINNESS MAN! Not a G&T guy!

[rexhea]

Oh, for Pete's sake guys! Lets move on.

Most everything I have witnessed on this forum in my short time has been positive. That includes fellowship as well as information. I enjoy the humorous post along with the more serious posts of someone requiring assistance or about new developments in the hobby. I agree that some subject matter should be avoided here just as we avoid it in our everyday lives, but we should remember that many new members are not aware of the inflammatory nature of certain topics. Heck, I almost asked about the stars when I first joined (couldn't find any info on this anywhere).Yes, our first responsiblity in the forum is to our hobby, but as long as no individual is neglected in their cry for help--- is there really a problem?

REX

[Allen Jenkins]

My main concern, is that I not offend anyone that I shall meet at the next national convention.
Also, that I use correct grammer, and spelling.
I would also like to see posts distributed to the correct forum, by subject.
Most of the time, no one listens to me, however, this is my three-hundredth reply.
Enjoy Your Hobby! ACJ.

[krump]

... the NEW WORD is good too, thanks

[Fergmiester]

To end this I think Bergie has either taken a hint or probably more to the point Brunton's timing coincided with Bergie's action as we have seen two topics deleted due to their nature. From what I have heard of other forums, this is quite tame and respectful one and it's nice to see, once again, respect and thoughtfullness has prevailed.

[Anonymous]

As reader of many forums , it's attitudes like yours that screw it up for others and really **** people off . Because your type is hard pressed to be civil . Your type just can't leave alone and move on . Nobody forces you to reply . And what makes you and those like you the the arbitrers of what is wrong or a lie . It's just your opinion . Like a bunch of old ladys on here .
My favoite saying is . " What goes around comes around "
Unless you do point to point
Certainly time for me to move on , it's only a hobby !
Joe

Why do I sense another deleted topic in the immediate future? [#dots][:-^]

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