Here's another bridge over the Colorado river. Looks dark blue too.
Michael
CEO- Mile-HI-RailroadPrototype: D&RGW Moffat Line 1989
That blue looks a lot less intense.
But, again, you have to decide what color and shade you like best.
Rich
Alton Junction
Michael,
You have to remember,that water is clear,the surrounding scenery and sky reflections,create the apparent coloring..plus the river bottom. Even swamp water is somewhat clear,just loaded with impurities,from surrounding area..
Cheers,
Frank
OK I just poured it. I mixed in some dark green, brown, and a tiny bit of black. It definatlely toned down the blue. And I think it matches the backdrop sky now.
Let me know what y'all think now? Good, bad, or indifferent.
In my opinion,,,100% better..
Thanks Frank! And I appreciate all your help and suggestions.
Michael, you nailed it this time around.
Fantastic! What a steady hand. Gotta mention the rock formation too. Outstanding!
How did you come up with that combo of colors?
Joe C
Chuck - Modeling in HO scale and anything narrow gauge
WOW!!!!!!! That rocks!!!!
Talk about being in the zone, As Rich says you nailed it!!
Keep posting pics of these "HOT" updates.
Derek
dominic c Fantastic! What a steady hand. Gotta mention the rock formation too. Outstanding! How did you come up with that combo of colors? Joe C
Thank you Joe. I had to keep playing with the colors. First I added the green, though it looked good, but then I started pouring it and it didn't cover the blue much. So I kept adding drop by drop, the brown and black.
As you can see, the water wicked up on the rocks a little bit, so I'll have to go back and add more rocks after its fully dried.
trwrouteMichael, this is fantastic! The water looks great. Off the wall question...what colors did you use on your road? I have a road poured from plaster, sanded, and ready to paint. I really like the color of yours.
Looks good!
Water is always one of those "gotta have faith" things. I went through similar angst when pouring my Rio de las Animas and it came out fine.
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
Derek and Rich, thanks guys. Great feedback here got me to do the right colors. Yes at first that blue was too bright. But easily fixed with the tint.
I will also add some ripples in the water. But I have to wait 12 hours from pouring time to do that.
"JaBear"Looking at the rest of your progress I suspect it will turn out just fine.
Am I psychic or not, (no comments from the cheap seats please!!!)
Cheers, the Bear.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Mike and the Bear, thanks a lot for the encouragement. It was dicey there for a while, I must admit I was scared it would turn out looking like crap.
Last night I was going to add ripples. Its supposed to set up in 12 hours. But I kept trying over and over well after 14 hours, and it still didn't take. So I went to bed.
So no ripples. Oh well it will be a slow moving river. I think it looks fine the way it is.
The worst is over. Ripples will come. Were you trying to use Mod-Podge or something like that? I gave up on it, puny ripples that would've taken 30 coats to get going good -- and I needed rapids.
What I got was some silicone that's used by cake decorators. You can mix color into it as needed and you get instant ripples, whatever size you need. You're only going to need extra coats if you're talking about surfin' waves.
Anyway, that's what I did, adding in some white acrylic to the silicone. It can be peeled off if you don't like the results, but otherwise stays in place. It was around $6/tube, but is plenty unless you're building an ocean.
Thanks for the help, Michael!
The Vollmer truss bride is installed, and the track to the right of it is completed and ballasted.
On the right side of the river, there is a space there in between the raised track and the two inside tracks where they cross. When I ripped out the middle section, I had some rock faced hills. I was able to cut that out and saved it. Its made of foam pieces glued together.
So today I cut that to fit the area. Now I just need to add some lightweight spackling to the backside with the raised track, and on the left where I cut it.
That is looking,really good. The last pic. says to me,that it belongs there. Almost,maybe is,perfect match,for that back drop.
Hi!
That is some really nice work, and a terrific progression of photos! That is MR mag material to me!
ENJOY !
Mobilman44
Living in southeast Texas, formerly modeling the "postwar" Santa Fe and Illinois Central
I presume it is due to the camera lighting and that under normal lighting this shadow of the bridge will disappear.
Jack W.
jalajoie I presume it is due to the camera lighting and that under normal lighting this shadow of the bridge will disappear.
I'm not sure I follow you. Are you saying that the sun outside doesn't make shadows?
Shadows.
Just like on the prototype.
Yes of course the sun will cast a shadow, but I doubt it will show on a distant mountain. The shadow will be on nearby structures or on the ground. The only shadow I ever saw on a mountain are from clouds.
Your background give a good impression of distance, that shadow breaks the effect, to me anyway. I was under the impression it was only from a camera angle and not from the normal lighting of your layout.
Oh I thought you were talking about the shadow underneath the bridge. You're talking about the shadow on the backdrop. Nothing I can really do about that because of my layout lighting. I think it shows up on the photo more than it does in person, I can barely see that. And it doesn't bother me either.
Every layout I see has shadows, its just something we all have to deal with when using indoor lighting.
jalajoie Yes of course the sun will cast a shadow, but I doubt it will show on a distant mountain. The shadow will be on nearby structures or on the ground. The only shadow I ever saw on a mountain are from clouds. Your background give a good impression of distance, that shadow breaks the effect, to me anyway. I was under the impression it was only from a camera angle and not from the normal lighting of your layout.
Picky, picky, picky.
I think that the whole purpose of the photo was for Michael to update us on his progress, not to win a photo contest for realism.
Yes, I agree...I'll be watching the train & probably not be viewing it from that angle anyway..Besides backdrops always run that challenge unless you have a warehouse & have the backrops 2 or more feet from the nearest track or structure.I like what Michael is doing, it is a nice job, Great Work Michael!!!!
Maybe I'll just tear down my layout because of backdrop shadows, and go build it outside and use real scenery and not have to use backdrops?
My about the shadow on the back drop, all structures,will cast a shadow,depending upon,what position the sun is. A tree in a forest,will cast a shadow,on other tree's in the forest.. Boy!, It, sure is Hot out here!, would you stand in front of the tree,in the sun? or behind the tree,in the shade,created by the tree's shadow? Now if Michael,stood in front of the light source, the shadow cast,would cover the bridge and maybe look like '' Godzilla '', JUST kidding Michael.