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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 1:45 PM

Well there's a lot more bridges in Chi-town, then here in Denver. We have like two or three rivers in the entire state. So were on un-experienced out here in the west.

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, September 30, 2013 2:14 PM

Michael,

You mean,, Chi-Town,eh..But in Rich's case,,I don't know,,,Laugh Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 2:24 PM

Fixed, that just didn't look right. Ooops. LOL

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, September 30, 2013 2:40 PM

Michael,

Yeah but,,,now we won't know what Rich's comment,would have been,,,,,it appears,now you made me the sacrificial lamb,,,,Laugh

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, September 30, 2013 5:09 PM

I was able to snap a photo of the Atlas truss bridge at the moment of its demolition by Michael.

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Posted by mlehman on Monday, September 30, 2013 5:47 PM

I'll bet that was hard to explain when the Fire Dept. showed up...Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 6:33 PM

I got the brass walkways delivered today. And I got ripped off, I don't have enough for both sides, only one side. So I'm getting a refund.

I found a solution. I have a bunch of extra parts from the Milwakee Station, and I found some pieces that fit perfectly for the walkways.

I need some opinions. What should I do???? leave it as is, or add these parts. I will paint them same grey color as the bridge, and weather them up with rust powders.

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Posted by UPinCT on Monday, September 30, 2013 7:11 PM

Hey Rich,  That's a good job out of you getting that pic of Michael's bridge demo.

Hi Michael, I like the bridge without the walkways but what do I know.  You are going to get opinions on both ways.  Why don't you go with what way you like or how a bridge in your neck of the woods looks like.

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 7:43 PM

I just painted and weathered the walkways. I think it looks real good. I'm going with this I think.

The prototype bridge I'm looking to match.

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Posted by UPinCT on Monday, September 30, 2013 7:46 PM

See problem solved looks great!

I do have a question, Is the new bridge longer in length than the old one or are they the same length?

Just curious, Derek

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 7:50 PM

UPinCT

See problem solved looks great!

I do have a question, Is the new bridge longer in length than the old one or are they the same length?

Just curious, Derek

Thanks Derek! There's always a solution to MRR problems right?

This bridge was longer than the Atlas bridge, by about 3 inches. So I had to re-adjust the abutments back a little.

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Posted by mlehman on Monday, September 30, 2013 8:46 PM

A longer bridge always looks better IMO.

Those walkways look great. Given how far back in the scene the bridge is, more detailed walkways might be a waste of good parts. Use them up front for something else.

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Posted by Schuylkill and Susquehanna on Monday, September 30, 2013 8:54 PM

Looks great!

Looking at the photos, it looks like there is a wooden beam on either side of the tracks by the walkways.  These are the outside guard rails, and are about 5" x 8".  To model them, I'd recommend using 1/16 x 3/32 basswood or 3/32 x 3/32 basswood and stain it using an india ink wash.

I have a similar bridge I need to work on, and this is a really great thread for reference.

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 9:48 PM

Thanks everybody! I appreciate that. I just finished weathering the bridge with powders. I will install the bridge track and walkways. Then I'll post up more photos.

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 11:49 PM

OK the bridge is finished. Weathered up and all.

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:48 AM

YesYesYesBeer

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:38 AM

richhotrain

I was able to snap a photo of the Atlas truss bridge at the moment of its demolition by Michael.

Rich

Rich,

I see that you finally got some use out of that Chemistry Set..Laugh

Michael,,Good job so far,,looking good.Yes

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:46 AM

 You can all shoot me, but the Atlas bridge looks more like the one in the prototype photo (not the exploding one!). The Vollmer one is a lot more airy and open, because it represents a lighter rated bridge using smaller structural members.

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:28 PM

While I like the Vollmer bridge, I agree with you Randy.  It lacks the buk of the Atlas truss bridge.

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:10 PM

The angle and closeup nature of the prototype shot probably exaggerate the bulkiness. I thought the same thing on first impression, then I considered those factors.

It's also the case that trying to match certain features of a prototype may not work as well on the layout as they do in 1:1. There may be other factors with the Atlas bridge that makes the Vollmer one better in that context. It's close proximity to the backdrop and consequent set back from the front of the layout also add to the "visual distance" the lighter structure conveys.

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:53 PM

I happened to look at the Vollmer catalog page and it showed two,Box Girder Bridges,ready made,one is lighter looking and one is meatier looking,,,Michael just happened to pick,the ''Lessor of Two Weavel's''..Laugh Bow

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Posted by Motley on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:08 PM

zstripe

I happened to look at the Vollmer catalog page and it showed two,Box Girder Bridges,ready made,one is lighter looking and one is meatier looking,,,Michael just happened to pick,the ''Lessor of Two Weavel's''..Laugh Bow

Cheers,Drinks

Frank

Frank,

Mine is not the box girder bridge. Those box girders are too short in length and I didn't like the look of them either.

Mine is the Arched Girder Bridge, and its 22" long.

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:29 PM

Motley

I got the brass walkways delivered today. And I got ripped off, I don't have enough for both sides, only one side. So I'm getting a refund.

I found a solution. I have a bunch of extra parts from the Milwakee Station, and I found some pieces that fit perfectly for the walkways.

I need some opinions. What should I do???? leave it as is, or add these parts. I will paint them same grey color as the bridge, and weather them up with rust powders.

Yeah you are right,Michael,,,the lighter box and the arch,look similar,except for the arch...By the way speaking of that,,,,is it my eyes,the camera angle,or is that bridge,higher on one side,than the other,around the middle.Right side looks higher to me than the left..

Cheers,The picture above.

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Posted by Motley on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:49 PM

Its the camera distorting it from that angle. I inspected the bridge very carefully, and its dead on straight in every way.

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Posted by taildisk on Saturday, October 12, 2013 7:08 AM

Hi Michael

I am interested in the location of the prototype bridge that you posted.

Thanks from down under

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Posted by Motley on Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:32 AM

taildisk

Hi Michael

I am interested in the location of the prototype bridge that you posted.

Thanks from down under

Rob (taildisk)

Rob, that bridge is located in Arizona.

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Posted by Motley on Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:17 AM

Been working on the ground cover and river banks.

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Posted by mlehman on Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:31 AM

Michael,

This is shaping up to be a really well composed scene. The river looks well-sculpted.

Whatcha gonna do about that #^&*@$*# electrical outlet? I suppose raising the layout 4" is probably out?WhistlingGrumpy

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Posted by Motley on Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:20 AM

mlehman

Michael,

This is shaping up to be a really well composed scene. The river looks well-sculpted.

Whatcha gonna do about that #^&*@$*# electrical outlet? I suppose raising the layout 4" is probably out?WhistlingGrumpy

Thanks Mike. As you can see the wall is bare. I took down my old backdrop, and putting in a new backdrop, so the wall socket will be covered.

I'm still waiting for delivery of the new set of backdrops I ordered from backdrop warehouse, and USPS seems to have lost it. It was supposed to be delivered on Thursday.

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Posted by mlehman on Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:43 PM

Motley
As you can see the wall is bare. I took down my old backdrop, and putting in a new backdrop, so the wall socket will be covered.

Gee, and I thought my memory was going.Confused Now I remember seeing the backdrop, so duhTongue Tied Bummer that USPS didn't come through for you. At least you get another chance today, so hoping they leave you a new goodie to play with. I know I'm looking forward to seeing it.Yes

Are you planning to "notch" the backdrop so that it drops down there to cover behind the bridge? Or maybe something else?

Mike Lehman

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