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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:23 AM

there is a warning label on the athearngenesis mech. reefer with sound that says it contains chemicals that is known to cause cancer and other problems in the state of california what is it the paint or glue? I'am scared!rambo1...

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Posted by maxman on Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:28 AM

Is the label on the box or on the reefer?  If it is on the box then the box should not be eaten.

If it references the product, then I suspect that the solder and other components of the decoder are bad if you eat them.

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Posted by JoeinPA on Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:54 AM

Maybe living in California can cause cancer Wink

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:02 PM

Cancer is caused by cruelty to white rats.

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Posted by chutton01 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:03 PM
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Posted by CTValleyRR on Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:09 PM
Rambo. The air you breath contains chemicals known to cause suffocation in high concentrations, the water you drink can cause drowning if it enters the body improperly, and any food that youneat can can cause death by choking. You may even insert a thermometer filled with toxic mercury into your mouth or your food, and may have lightbulds containing small quantites of this same substance above your head. If your house was built before 1970, it may contain asbestos, a known carcinogen. FWIW, there are probably only a half dozen or so substances in the universe that are NOT known to cause cancer or other problems in the state of California. These chemixals are harmful in other states, and countries for that matter, but the rest of us, being a little smarter than the average Californian, don't obsess about it quite so much.

Seriously, though, most products are perfectly safe if used in a manner consistent with their intended use and design specifications. Yes, if there is lead solder or solvent based paints or adhesives in your model, either could be the cause of that warning. Similarly, the fumes of melted plastic are usually toxic. So, yes, if you're planning to convert your model into an air freshener or eating utensil, heed the warnings. If you're going to extensively modify it, wear PPE. If you're just going to run it on your model railroad, relax and enjoy it.

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Posted by mlehman on Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:51 PM

rambo1
I'am scared!rambo1...

Golly, apparently our action heroes are not quite up to maintaining the old image, having fought their way through the Cold War's backwaters -- only to be stymied by a sticker from the State of California. Retirement is heck!Wink

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:00 PM

If you want the real reason for the silly labels is that it inhibits litigation, all leases out here now contain such clauses and they list any potential liability. Buildings are now posted with warnings. Anytime there is a lawsuit in the state for some frivolous thing, a new warning is added to prevent it happening again. On another note, if you drink too much water at one time you can die (electrolyte imbalance), it happened at a local radio contest!

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:41 PM

i don't like that either. rambo1..

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:42 PM

to the rats or any animals that is 

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:48 PM

look where i work aircraft company aluminum dust and chemicals everywhere i'd better retire soon. rambo1..

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:53 PM

at least  i get to watch a few go trains go by i the morning to brighten the day. It pays good ! rambo1..

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Posted by peahrens on Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:55 PM

What if the label is composed of hazardous ingredients?  Do they need to put a label on the label?

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:58 PM

yeh true

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:02 PM

look at all the road  salt they throw into our drinking water rambo1..

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Posted by Schuylkill and Susquehanna on Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:02 PM

The way stuff is labeled, I'd think that EVERYTHING is known to cause cancer by the state of California.Laugh

Seriously though, it's almost certainly the paint.  Could be glue, but a lot of models from manufacturers are press-fit and/or held in place with screws.

It probably means that you shouldn't eat it or be in prolonged contact with it.  Works great if you weather your cars with unsealed pastels.Stick out tongue

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Posted by dstarr on Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:29 PM

rambo1

there is a warning label on the athearngenesis mech. reefer with sound that says it contains chemicals that is known to cause cancer and other problems in the state of california what is it the paint or glue? I'am scared!rambo1...

 Every thing is known to cause cancer in the State of California.  To keep the greenie police off their case manufacturers put the warning label on everything, just in case.

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Posted by mononguy63 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:51 PM

peahrens
What if the label is composed of hazardous ingredients?  Do they need to put a label on the label?

DING DING DING! We have a winner! Laugh

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Posted by G Paine on Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:08 PM

rambo1
look at all the road  salt they throw into our drinking water rambo1..

As with many things in this discussion, sodium chloride is necessary for good health within certain limits. Excessive use is not. However, I would not put calcium chloride on my potatos at dinner tonight

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:37 PM

WARNING - Breathing is hazardous to your health. Conclusive tests have confirmed that everyone who breathes eventually dies.

 

    

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Posted by betamax on Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:56 PM

Must be that time of the month again.

If you are truly concerned by a warning label, you should contact the manufacturer/distributor for an explanation.

The answer will not be found here.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:43 PM

betamax

Must be that time of the month again.

If you are truly concerned by a warning label, you should contact the manufacturer/distributor for an explanation.

The answer will not be found here.

The answer is - Proposition 64.

That's the label on this silliness, pushed by a bunch of activists that didn't bother to think out the consequences, signed (in petition) by a bunch of people who assumed that it would shift responsibility off THEIR shoulders, and voted in by the same folks who voted for Ahnold and Jerry Brown at other times.

At about the same time, I tried to initiate a proposition, to be placed on the California ballot, that would require the following on every birth certificate:

WARNING:  Birth is known to the State of California to be 100% fatal.

Didn't get enough signatures to qualify.  I was so disgusted I left (for Tennessee - which was NOT an improvement.)

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:54 PM

That California warning label appears on so many items it is becoming meaningless.  Just breathing the LA basin smog is hazardous to your health.

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:10 PM

yep soon enough mini california..... I mean washington will probably be doing the same thing. why can't people just leave stuff well enough alone.

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Posted by betamax on Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:47 PM

tomikawaTT

betamax

Must be that time of the month again.

If you are truly concerned by a warning label, you should contact the manufacturer/distributor for an explanation.

The answer will not be found here.

The answer is - Proposition 8.

That's the label on this silliness, pushed by a bunch of activists that didn't bother to think out the consequences, signed (in petition) by a bunch of people who assumed that it would shift responsibility off THEIR shoulders, and voted in by the same folks who voted for Ahnold and Jerry Brown at other times.

At about the same time, I tried to initiate a proposition, to be placed on the California ballot, that would require the following on every birth certificate:

WARNING:  Birth is known to the State of California to be 100% fatal.

Didn't get enough signatures to qualify.  I was so disgusted I left (for Tennessee - which was NOT an improvement.)

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - in a Nevada garage)

I am quite aware that the label is in fact, useless.  It doesn't tell you anything. 

It can be there for two reasons: Legal liability, or the product does contain something of concern.  We all know the naughty and nice lists change on a regular basis.

It doesn't tell us what the materials or compounds in question are.  Or was it applied "just in case" some materials used are reclassified in 4 months.

If it has a decoder, lead in the solder is possible, but a number of toxic materials are used to make electronic components or as part of the manufacturing process of electronic devices.  Or is it the metal alloy used for the frame?  Or a release compound from the molding process, or paints used to finish the model?

Only the manufacturer would know that.

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Posted by Schuylkill and Susquehanna on Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:51 PM

Burlington Northern #24

yep soon enough mini california..... I mean washington will probably be doing the same thing. why can't people just leave stuff well enough alone.

 

The warning is to let people know there is a possible danger.  It would be nice if they actually TOLD you how much danger there was, and/or what was dangerous.  It is kind of frustrating to have a freight car labeled "Known to cause cancer", but they don't tell you what part of it is dangerous.  It's kind of obvious when it is say, super glue or paint.

Still, the warning is there for a reason, and it's always better to be safe than sorry - especially when dealing with life-threatening diseases.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:12 PM

The problem is that there is no information to evaluate your risk or to take precautions if needed.  I notice things like certain glues, paints, etc. have specific things like use in well ventilated area, don't eat, etc.  They also frequently list the hazardous chemicals.  But as others have noted a CYA message is worthless.

I just ignore the California warnings, because they are of no value.  It's kind of like the auto ramps I bought one time that had the warning label "not too be used to support automobiles".

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, July 15, 2013 12:08 AM

IRONROOSTER

I just ignore the California warnings, because they are of no value.  It's kind of like the auto ramps I bought one time that had the warning label "not too be used to support automobiles".

Paul,

I can't help it but,,,,,you just have to laugh,,at that one..LOL..

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, July 15, 2013 4:31 AM

zstripe

IRONROOSTER

I just ignore the California warnings, because they are of no value.  It's kind of like the auto ramps I bought one time that had the warning label "not too be used to support automobiles".

Paul,

I can't help it but,,,,,you just have to laugh,,at that one..LOL..

Cheers,

Frank

I stopped worrying about clueless warnings years ago and at 65 I'm not about to worry about Califorinia's needless warnings.

Life is full of dangers..

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Posted by ndbprr on Monday, July 15, 2013 6:07 AM
If we took all the warning labels off everything maybe stupid people would eliminate themselves and the need for the labels in the first place.

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