I'm late to the party, as usual. Should that be in my bio? That I'm late to everything except dinner and work?
NP2626 I wonder why we're so secretive about who we are and what we've done?
I wonder why we're so secretive about who we are and what we've done?
Because none of that matters. Galaxy nailed the ultimate response (2) pages back. His post tells me enough. I don't need to know if he's unhappily married in a suburb with a dog and 1.5 kids..or none of those things.
To All, of my Model Railroading is Fun,participants and (other's)
''I know nothing'' ,,,
Cheers,
Frank
I am "Thin skinned", there is also a fairly strong likelihood that if something can be taken wrong I may very well do that. Some people seem to consistently want to crap on my parade and I get tired of their immature rhetoric! I've been told a few times: "Don't feed the Trolls"!
It has gotten to the point for me, that I doubt there to be much value in participating here! I have attempted to provide, what I think are thought provoking and insightful threads when I post. But, they always seem to provoke rancor and discord!
Yes, it is my reaction to the Trolls that causes my problems! I certainly am not "Perfect" and the Perfect ones will let me know about it!
NP 2626 "Northern Pacific, really terrific"
Northern Pacific Railway Historical Association: http://www.nprha.org/
galaxy gregc when reading someone's post or response, wouldn't knowing that persons age, experience in modeling, perhaps the size and completeness of their model railroad, other interests and/or occupation be helpful in judging that opinion or posting a response? Aren't all these things people could post in their biography without much risk? That may not tell you much at all. It's all relative. ~BOB can say he's been in MRRIng for 25 years, yet never finished his 4x8. ~Johhny could be in for 5 years, and built a 30x50' MRR mostly to completion. ~Sam has brass and scratch builds everything to scale, but doesn't bother with more than a shelf layout. ~Allan has 2,040 locos, but can't wire his layout for DCC. ~Tom has a layout, finished it 15 years ago and hasn't done anything since. Wonders what a "DCC" is? ~Steve only collects locos, never built a layout, but knows everything about brass and plastic models from 1978-1995.. ~David has lots of money but can't put together a Model Power snap-together kit. and hired his layout built.. Mark has NO money and scratch builds everything from cereal cardboard and used match sticks. WHO is the BETTER modeler here? See what i mean? What you do , is what we all have been doing, evaluating WHAT each person says in a post WHEN they say it for RELEVANCE TO {our} {The} Question or answer posted. And this post may not be relevant at all. Or it could be the most profound thought of the day.
gregc when reading someone's post or response, wouldn't knowing that persons age, experience in modeling, perhaps the size and completeness of their model railroad, other interests and/or occupation be helpful in judging that opinion or posting a response? Aren't all these things people could post in their biography without much risk?
when reading someone's post or response, wouldn't knowing that persons age, experience in modeling, perhaps the size and completeness of their model railroad, other interests and/or occupation be helpful in judging that opinion or posting a response?
Aren't all these things people could post in their biography without much risk?
That may not tell you much at all. It's all relative.
~BOB can say he's been in MRRIng for 25 years, yet never finished his 4x8.
~Johhny could be in for 5 years, and built a 30x50' MRR mostly to completion.
~Sam has brass and scratch builds everything to scale, but doesn't bother with more than a shelf layout.
~Allan has 2,040 locos, but can't wire his layout for DCC.
~Tom has a layout, finished it 15 years ago and hasn't done anything since. Wonders what a "DCC" is?
~Steve only collects locos, never built a layout, but knows everything about brass and plastic models from 1978-1995..
~David has lots of money but can't put together a Model Power snap-together kit. and hired his layout built.. Mark has NO money and scratch builds everything from cereal cardboard and used match sticks. WHO is the BETTER modeler here?
See what i mean?
What you do , is what we all have been doing, evaluating WHAT each person says in a post WHEN they say it for RELEVANCE TO {our} {The} Question or answer posted.
And this post may not be relevant at all. Or it could be the most profound thought of the day.
Galaxy, wunderbar!
Probably one of the most profound things I have ever read here!
Besides, where is this bio setting anyway?
Karl
NCE über alles!
Mark,As I mention before in another thread one of the first things I learned about forums is not take anything personally..Another lesson was to toughen my skin.
You haven't been hound tell you had a bozo to follow you from forum to forum heckling every reply you made.Bozo finally gave up when I stopped playing his game.
When I start a topic I read every reply and may give more thought on the matter but,its never personal since we all have different points of views that won't always agree..I suspect that's why they are called discussion forums and not agreement forums..
I'm not your " by the book" modeler since I do things differently and by "my book" and that book is full of lessons that will and will not work and old school methods.I could care less about "experts" or "expert wanna bes" since they're like the wind constantly changing.
I can't wire a toggle switch but,I can set down with the best of 'em and talk railroads,operation and planning ISLs..Thats my forte..I gain a lot of first hand experience through the various clubs I've been a member of over the years..I gain a lot of knowledge through research that includes using Bing and Google maps.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
Texas Zepher SpaceMouseI'm just lazy. Or it was a low priority. And I hate writing bios. When I'm interviewed they have to drag a bio out of me. I have needed to update my bio on my biz page for years. Yeap, that is where I am. Bad enough one has to write them for job interviews and the like. Would much rather be wring posts into a thread than thinking about a bio.
SpaceMouseI'm just lazy. Or it was a low priority. And I hate writing bios. When I'm interviewed they have to drag a bio out of me. I have needed to update my bio on my biz page for years.
Yep. Me as well. My doctor's file on me is about the size of an Oxford Dictionary....
Cancer survivor...3 X now, Congestive Heart Failure, Cardiac Arrest, et beeping cetera....
Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry
I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...
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Corollary question:
Who reads biographies?
I know I rarely if ever read them. The last time I did, the person's opinions did not encourage me to interact with him.
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
I never read biographies before. I don't need to. I have been on this forum long enough to know which poster I like to read and which I prefer to avoid.
Guy
Modeling CNR in the 50's
Guy Papillon I have been on this forum long enough to know which poster I like to read and which I prefer to avoid.
Yes,I've been around here since 2001 and learn quickly who was blowing smoke and who wasn't..
NP2626Yes, it is my reaction to the Trolls that causes my problems! I certainly am not "Perfect" and the Perfect ones will let me know about it!
Those of you who think you are perfect are bothering those of us who are!
Go with the flow, and illegitmi non-carbonundum.
Come there to relax, learn a little and stuff like that. If not it is fun, why torture yourself.
LION thinks you are one of the good guys, so do not take the small stuff to heart (here or anyplace else for that matter.)
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
The best way to handle a troll is to not even try. Just ignore, ignore, ignore and go about your business as if he/she is not there. Please use the 'Report Abuse' function (yellow triangle with exclamation at the bottom left of each post) so the mods/admins know what's going on.
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NP2626 I am "Thin skinned", there is also a fairly strong likelihood that if something can be taken wrong I may very well do that. Some people seem to consistently want to crap on my parade and I get tired of their immature rhetoric! I've been told a few times: "Don't feed the Trolls"! It has gotten to the point for me, that I doubt there to be much value in participating here! I have attempted to provide, what I think are thought provoking and insightful threads when I post. But, they always seem to provoke rancor and discord! Yes, it is my reaction to the Trolls that causes my problems! I certainly am not "Perfect" and the Perfect ones will let me know about it!
Actually, NP, your original post was a reasonable inquiry. I think had everyone ultimately agreed with you, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. However, some gave their reasons why they didn't/wouldn't include a bio in their profile and you got bent out of shape.
I've been a member here since 2002 and active since 2004, when I first started working on my layout. I have rarely bothered to read anyone's bio but I have gotten to know a number of the regulars (and irregulars) here on the forum by interacting with them, working with them as mods, discussing things via PM, or meeting them in person. Some I know little about; some I know more than I realize.
Enjoy the difference of the forum - even those who don't have the same view point as yourself. As with anywhere, you can learn from those who don't cross their eyes or dot their tees the same way you do. Other than politicians, I think even Samuel Clemens might agree with that.
Tom
https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling
Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
blownout cylinder You really really really really would not want to know....
You really really really really would not want to know....
BRAKIE Guy Papillon I have been on this forum long enough to know which poster I like to read and which I prefer to avoid. Yes,I've been around here since 2001 and learn quickly who was blowing smoke and who wasn't..
So true, Larry. And I must add that I have to appreciate your input and expertise from all your years of working in the "real world" of trains. This is especially true as a good potion of my modeling is the Chessie era. I don't care if you can't wire a DPDT switch, I still have trouble changing an decoder address w/o a cheat sheet!
Bio is to each his own, some safeguard any and all personal info and others will give a "life" story (even embellished) to some extent. Makes no difference to me, I can learn more about the hobby and a person as how/ what they post "relating to the hobby"..
The location and join date did help on countless occasions w/ my replies to a poster. Would identify a "newbie" or at least "new" to the Forum (replies tailored to a novice) and or a location many times helped to answer questions about layout location (basements, garages, attics etc) as methods vary to geographic area. Recommendations to railfanning locations, local clubs, LHS and shows that may be nearby.
Modeling B&O- Chessie Bob K. www.ssmrc.org
NP,
I'm surprised that you state that you're thinned skin. I assumed that you as a gentleman that served honorably in the US Military (thank you for your service to our country) that you've seen and heard your share of disagreements and arguments. Soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen, have to be thick skinned. No disrespect to you but most Korean War and Vietnam era vets that I have conversed with, metaphorically, are about as thick skinned as that Pennsylvania GG1 that crashed through a wall. They "shake it off" and move ahead at track speed.
http://www.steamlocomotive.com/GG1/gg101.jpg
You've attempted to provide thought provoking threads on this forum.........and you have! I've responded to some of your threads. But then you react in a wounded manner if someone disagrees with you. Except for one past thread, I haven't seen any posts where the brethren here have attacked your dignity, and/or openly disrespected or torpedoed you.
Think about that, I know that a number of us here have been torpedoed-flamed at one time or another. I have and I know that Jeff has. But guess what........we're still here because it's a good place to be. No one is chasing you away and no one here is perfect. But if you receive some sincere critiques, take them for what they're worth, respond if it's helpful, ignore if it's the best thing to do.....and move ahead.
Now, let's enjoy our hobby. I don't know about you guys, but I'm working on some passenger equipment that I hope to post about soon.
High Greens, NP
"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"
Biography?
"I yam what I yam," Popeye.
If Retired USAF Master Sergeant, ex-USMMA engine Cadet-Midshipman and having a Japanese wife doesn't tell you enough, then you're too *** nosy.
I don't blow my own horn, The people who know me know why. The people who don't know me, don't need to.
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
the gentleman above me puts it better than me
tomikawaTT Biography? "I yam what I yam," Popeye.
the thing with Biography's online is not everyone is happy or comfortable with putting personal information on the internet no Mine says what you need to know which is that i am Englishman abroad i am looking at US Model railroads not British stuff
Apologies in advance for any use of UK RailRoad Terms
"there is the wrong way the Right way and then there is Great western railway Way"
According to my friends and family my 56 years reads like a Forrest Gump novel. Though my IQ is 2 Points higher. So no one would believe me anyway.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
tomikawaTT "I yam what I yam," Popeye. If Retired USAF Master Sergeant, ex-USMMC engine Cadet-Midshipman and having a Japanese wife doesn't tell you enough, then you're too *** nosy. I don't blow my own horn, The people who know me know why. The people who don't know me, don't need to.
If Retired USAF Master Sergeant, ex-USMMC engine Cadet-Midshipman and having a Japanese wife doesn't tell you enough, then you're too *** nosy.
I agree...........you will know what I want YOU to know about me.
Dennis Blank Jr.
CEO,COO,CFO,CMO,Bossman,Slavedriver,Engineer,Trackforeman,Grunt. Birdsboro & Reading Railroad
AntonioFP45Just let it ride............
Love that old classic rock and roll (B.T.O.)
"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."-Albert Einstein
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BATMAN According to my friends and family my 56 years reads like a Forrest Gump novel. Though my IQ is 2 Points higher. So no one would believe me anyway.
Well now your just showing off Mr.Smarty Pants
Okay. I give up & will cave to all the pressure & controversy that this thread has created. Anything to keep the peace & advance the brotherhood of model railroading to it's rightful place in society. So, I will post my biography here for all to read.
I was born in a little log cabin that I helped my father build. I never really knew my mother, as she had left the family years before I came along. My school years were frought with anxiety, as I was only able to beat the crap out of 9 of the 11 players on the 1st string football team, so I was thus looked upon as a sickly child and often scorned by my peers. I would take solace in my love of hunting. On weekends I would often load up my 30-30 and go down to the beach to shoot some clams.
By the time I completed high school, the tensions in Europe and the Pacific had reached a boiling point. Duty called. I enlisted in the Navy, serving as a gunner on a Heavy Cruiser in the Pacific Fleet, where I was credited with shooting down 4 Japanese planes. Unfortunately, this was in 1975 and our Captain, a higly nervous and easily agitated man, took exception to my accomplishments. So, after a challenging 3 month psych evaluation and a hasty discharge (for reasons that are still unclear to me) I decided to try my hand as an entrepenuer.
I will be the first to admit that not all of my ventures were immediate successes. The banana plantation in Skagway failed in less than a year and the alpine ski school in Key West didn't fare much better. It was at this time that I entered a rather dark & troubled period in my life, but I won't bore you with the details of that. To make a long story short, I ended up joining an interesting and rather exclusive society of gentlemen with similar life experiences, living in a very communal & fraternal encampment in the woods just east of the Illinois Central line outside of Peoria. I enjoyed the comraderie & especially the frequent travel to exotic locations like Newark, Paducah and Duluth, and even proposed that we invest in building a train station there, hoping to expand the community and make it more attractive to business, but the idea seemed to invoke little more than hostility & suspicion amongst my peers.
Even upon the near unanimous request that I be voted out of the society, I was undaunted. For I had now found a sense of direction and purpose. I had found my love of trains! It came down to 2 options: Get married, get a job, buy a house and build a model railroad layout or become a golf pro. As I have never liked those polo shirts with the little alligator above the pocket, the choice was not too difficult.
So, here I am & now you know more about me than even I do. And you probably wish by now that you didn't. I know I certainly do.
Carl
"I could never belong to any club that would have me as a member."
Beautiful, Carl. Can I include snippets of that on my own profile page? I'm with Brian. My life has been mundane compared to yours.
Attention: NP2626--
For the record, I meant nothing personal or heated about any of my replies above. I was providing very sincere answers regarding why I am not able to post a bio. Not everyone will agree with them, and that's ok. I was responding to what I read without considering who wrote it or anything remotely like that.
To All--
I learned that it does not appear to be possible to change or replace your screen name on here without lying. You can link a new email address, but they ask for a street address--and there is no place that I am able to find anywhere on the site that allows one to change or replace one's screen name short of a fake address--and I don't really need Kalmbach junk mail going to my 80-year-old parents' home.
From now on I will pass into the "reading only" category. Best wishes to all. No harm or malice was intended to anyone by my recent posts.
UP 4-12-2 Attention: NP2626-- For the record, I meant nothing personal or heated about any of my replies above. I was providing very sincere answers regarding why I am not able to post a bio. Not everyone will agree with them, and that's ok. I was responding to what I read without considering who wrote it or anything remotely like that. To All-- I learned that it does not appear to be possible to change or replace your screen name on here without lying. You can link a new email address, but they ask for a street address--and there is no place that I am able to find anywhere on the site that allows one to change or replace one's screen name short of a fake address--and I don't really need Kalmbach junk mail going to my 80-year-old parents' home. From now on I will pass into the "reading only" category. Best wishes to all. No harm or malice was intended to anyone by my recent posts.
UP 4-12-2 I do not recall; or, see where I took issue with anything you personally have said.
Have you talked with a moderator about changing your name? Ask Blownout Cylinder or Jeffrey-Wemberly for help. I too, have considered changing my name here at the Model Railroader Forums and starting over with a "clean slate". However, I don't think it would take to long, before who I am, would come through in my posts.
I think your post is a sad commentary on the state of affairs on this Forum, at times . Obviously, you are someone who struggles with the negativity that seems so pervasive here and I would remind you that 50% of the public has below average intelligence!
UP & NP,
Once you've gotten established on the forum (i.e. you have more than 5 posts), there isn't a way to change your profile name unless you close your current forum account and start over with a new one. That keeps possible trolls from changing their identity on the fly. If it's under 5 posts or so, Customer Service can help you with that.
Huh Here I thought the correct answer was because we were model railroaders and we hide in our basements and play with trains and no one is supposed to know we exist. If we had biographies, then we would exist and that frightens us!
Robert H. Shilling II
NP2626 UP 4-12-2 Attention: NP2626-- For the record, I meant nothing personal or heated about any of my replies above. I was providing very sincere answers regarding why I am not able to post a bio. Not everyone will agree with them, and that's ok. I was responding to what I read without considering who wrote it or anything remotely like that. To All-- I learned that it does not appear to be possible to change or replace your screen name on here without lying. You can link a new email address, but they ask for a street address--and there is no place that I am able to find anywhere on the site that allows one to change or replace one's screen name short of a fake address--and I don't really need Kalmbach junk mail going to my 80-year-old parents' home. From now on I will pass into the "reading only" category. Best wishes to all. No harm or malice was intended to anyone by my recent posts. UP 4-12-2 I do not recall; or, see where I took issue with anything you personally have said. Have you talked with a moderator about changing your name? Ask Blownout Cylinder or Jeffrey-Wemberly for help. I too, have considered changing my name here at the Model Railroader Forums and starting over with a "clean slate". However, I don't think it would take to long, before who I am, would come through in my posts. I think your post is a sad commentary on the state of affairs on this Forum, at times . Obviously, you are someone who struggles with the negativity that seems so pervasive here and I would remind you that 50% of the public has below average intelligence!
The negativity is not pervasive here. This is and has been one of the "nicest" forums by comparison to all other train forums I have tried. However, I spend far too much time posting stuff, etc. and it seems as if now will be a good time for me to stop. I'm not sure that my posts added all that much value anyway.
The negativity was only one aspect of the forums I left--the blatant ignorance was part of my leaving too. As I had indicated, there are a few people on the Atlas Rescue Forum (who were also on the Atlas Forum) that don't know anywhere nearly as much about model trains or train manufacturing as they claim to. The sad thing is some of the masses don't know the difference and apparently look up to them as being "knowledgeable".
These forums have been relatively civil by comparison to the Atlas, and BLI, and Atlas Rescue Forums (two of which were shut down by the manufacturers at least partly due to the lack of civility, and the third is privately run).
C ya--