jmbjmbA bigger question I have for Lion, is what engine is he referring to that some manufacturer is producing?
mogul1n
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jmbjmb Counter response why be so nosey? It's not important to me to bother with adding it.
Wow! If you feel wanting to see what others are doing in a hobby and how long they've been doing it, is being nosy, then please keep your information to yourself as I have no interest in what you have to say, anyway!
NP 2626 "Northern Pacific, really terrific"
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BATMAN A true storey. On this forum, a few years ago. a guy posted a pic of his latest brass Loco and we all admired the new addition to all his other brass loco's. Another member jokingly ask where he lived and the response was " you won't find my house in a million years, I never give out private information" ( I considered this a challenge) He then went on to say he was going to Mexico for two weeks with the family. Then the thread then turned into one much like this one, about privacy issue's. In about fifteen minutes I had sent him a Google image of his house and his name, occupation and the makes of his two cars. How did I do it???? I had remembered he had posted pic's of his layout on the forum. Out the window of the train room was a school across the street with the name of the school clearly visible. I Googled the name of the school. There were several with the same name in the U.S. I new what State he lived in and by process of elimination I got a Google street view of his house. His address was clearly visible and I Googled that. I found a real estate add from when the house was on the market. The add had the owners name on it. ( our Brass owner ) The house hadn't sold and he still lived there. I PMd him what I had found in a matter of minutes on the internet. His reply was "Thanks Brent, I guess I shouldn't have been such a Smart _$$ If you take one member scroll through all his post and pull every snippet of personal info, you will have quite a profile on him. Food for thought.
A true storey.
On this forum, a few years ago. a guy posted a pic of his latest brass Loco and we all admired the new addition to all his other brass loco's. Another member jokingly ask where he lived and the response was " you won't find my house in a million years, I never give out private information" ( I considered this a challenge)
He then went on to say he was going to Mexico for two weeks with the family. Then the thread then turned into one much like this one, about privacy issue's.
In about fifteen minutes I had sent him a Google image of his house and his name, occupation and the makes of his two cars.
How did I do it????
I had remembered he had posted pic's of his layout on the forum. Out the window of the train room was a school across the street with the name of the school clearly visible.
I Googled the name of the school. There were several with the same name in the U.S. I new what State he lived in and by process of elimination I got a Google street view of his house.
His address was clearly visible and I Googled that. I found a real estate add from when the house was on the market. The add had the owners name on it. ( our Brass owner ) The house hadn't sold and he still lived there.
I PMd him what I had found in a matter of minutes on the internet. His reply was "Thanks Brent, I guess I shouldn't have been such a Smart _$$
If you take one member scroll through all his post and pull every snippet of personal info, you will have quite a profile on him.
Food for thought.
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
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Gary DuPrey
N scale model railroader
Well, jmb. It looks like NP is kicking you out of his sandbox. Wow...
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Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
Batman:
Hey, buddy, I remember a couple of years ago when you Googlemapped me and sent me a photo of my house. Unfortunately, my garage door was down, so you couldn't see into my layout, but you thought my little green VW was cool, LOL!
Green VW is sold. Layout's still there, though.
Tom
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
gregc when reading someone's post or response, wouldn't knowing that persons age, experience in modeling, perhaps the size and completeness of their model railroad, other interests and/or occupation be helpful in judging that opinion or posting a response? Aren't all these things people could post in their biography without much risk?
when reading someone's post or response, wouldn't knowing that persons age, experience in modeling, perhaps the size and completeness of their model railroad, other interests and/or occupation be helpful in judging that opinion or posting a response?
Aren't all these things people could post in their biography without much risk?
Why does it matter how many posts they've had or how many years that person has modeled whatever road? Just because someone has been in a hobby for 40 years does not necessarily make them really good at it--it just means they are at least middle aged. I'm a prime example of that.
I am much less likely to trust the frequent posters on some forums because I have learned that most of them do not know as much as they think they know--some of them just like to talk an awful lot, period.
On some forums people get away with libel and deserve to be sued.
I am also less likely to use my name at the bottom of a post since there are people out there who have already been very difficult for me to deal with in the past.
In fact, I would change my name on this forum to a completely new name, but short of using a new email address, I can't figure out how to do that. I wish I could get anonymity back. There's enough nasty nutjobs out there in model railroading--and I've dealt with too many.
In fact, perhaps I'll go sign up for that new email address right now, and will share even less information in the future.
We'll see if this is my last topic as 4-12-2, or not.
Best Regards--
me
Gidday, I am a "Technological Luddite" and just because I use the "interweb" doesn't mean I trust it. Due to busy w**k commitments I jealousy guard and treasure my private/ home life.
That I have been employed for the past 25 years as an aircraft engineer does not necessarily make me cleverer than, for instance" a toilet cleaner, ( yes I did that for a short while when I was young), and anyhow is totally irrelevant to my skills, or lack of, as a model railroader.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
I'm keeping an eye on this thread.
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jeffrey-wimberly I'm keeping an eye on this thread.
He'll be wanting it locked sooner or later anyway.
Silly guy, he asks a question and then rejects anyone who responds in a way he doesn't feel is appropriate to him.
"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."-Albert Einstein
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I guess I just can't ask a benign question without someone making nasty comments! So, this was just another waste of my and everyone else's time.
Sorry I had a general question!
Fill in a biography; or, don't, makes no difference to me!
Terry
In NW.
Wisconsin.
55. Joined a while ago.
Terry in NW Wisconsin
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NP2626 Wow! If you feel wanting to see what others are doing in a hobby and how long they've been doing it, is being nosy, then please keep your information to yourself as I have no interest in what you have to say, anyway!
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
That may not tell you much at all. It's all relative.
~BOB can say he's been in MRRIng for 25 years, yet never finished his 4x8.
~Johhny could be in for 5 years, and built a 30x50' MRR mostly to completion.
~Sam has brass and scratch builds everything to scale, but doesn't bother with more than a shelf layout.
~Allan has 2,040 locos, but can't wire his layout for DCC.
~Tom has a layout, finished it 15 years ago and hasn't done anything since. Wonders what a "DCC" is?
~Steve only collects locos, never built a layout, but knows everything about brass and plastic models from 1978-1995..
~David has lots of money but can't put together a Model Power snap-together kit. and hired his layout built.. Mark has NO money and scratch builds everything from cereal cardboard and used match sticks. WHO is the BETTER modeler here?
See what i mean?
What you do , is what we all have been doing, evaluating WHAT each person says in a post WHEN they say it for RELEVANCE TO {our} {The} Question or answer posted.
And this post may not be relevant at all. Or it could be the most profound thought of the day.
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
twhite Batman: Hey, buddy, I remember a couple of years ago when you Googlemapped me and sent me a photo of my house. Unfortunately, my garage door was down, so you couldn't see into my layout, but you thought my little green VW was cool, LOL! Green VW is sold. Layout's still there, though. Tom
I remember that Tom.
I know Google has taken a new updated photo of my house in the last year so I'll have to see if they have done the same to yours. Maybe this time the garage door will be up.
I just can't remember how I found you the last time. Time for some sleuthing.
When you have close family and friends in the RCMP and CSIS. You really learn a lot around the dinner table on Sunday nights.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
As long as the Kindergarten Klopperei is kept down the thread can die a natural death. I much prefer that to the lock anyways....
Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry
I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...
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I just never got around to entering one. I never know what to say about myself.
If I want to know absolutely everything about someone, I'll go to Facebook.
I have a Facebook account, but I disabled all the notices and I seldom go there at all. But, if I get the sudden urge to know what toothpaste everyone uses or which toilet paper they prefer, I'll get right back to it.
I'm not suspicious, or paranoid. If I thought my MR profile would put me in danger, I'd put something like "Lifelong NRA member" in it, discuss my imaginary pit bulls named "Darth" and "Vader" or pretend to have been in the Marines.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
What's a facebook?
Tom:Why don't people use their real names at the bottom of their posts?
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Some of us do..Others? Ah,mmm,maybe they forgot their real name or lost their name tag?
I worked with a guy for several years and only knew him as "Rocky"..Even the foreman called him that.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
NP2626 I guess I just can't ask a benign question without someone making nasty comments! So, this was just another waste of my and everyone else's time.
You asked; folks responded. You didn't like their answers; you get ticked off. Didn't we have this conversation in a thread a couple of weeks ago???
What someone has in their biography is of more interest to me in discerning and understanding the world of interests someone has and how that might apply to understanding their approach to model railroading.
It is kind of interesting this discussion drifted into being formulated as being about someone's "qualifications." That's a lot like the many testosterone-dosed comments that people leave in threads. As it is was all about being "right" in a hobby where there's often a 1,000 different good answers to many questions and most of the rest of the answers can now be looked up if you're good at Google and discerning useful sources.
In other words, we're all chasing the same dang chicken. Better off we all chip in a start a chicken farm, so there can be a chicken in every pot, I say.
Folks, being here should be about sharing a thoughtful conversation with each other. Thin skin is not an advantage. Neither is being real insistent on having the Holy Grail of Railroad Knowledge. It just ain't so, even though there are some darn good folks here. The only problem is half of them are trying to prove something that fundamentally doesn't matter more than a warm cup of spit.
We'd all do better by concentrating on that slogan I wish our hosts would bring back -- Model Railroading Is Fun!.
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
After reading all of the postings on NP2626's question, I do not see how it got to be about giving personal information.
Since this is a model train forum, any info we post in the "About You" section would only be about what got you into the hobby, what type of layout you have or want to have, and maybe era, etcetera. Such as I have in mine.
Know where did any one say you have to give, address, bank account info, income, where you work or any such info. I don't even give any of that as this forum is not about those things.
Thank you for your responses to the original question though as they are very informative.
Ken G Price My N-Scale Layout
Digitrax Super Empire Builder Radio System. South Valley Texas Railroad. SVTRR
N-Scale out west. 1996-1998 or so! UP, SP, Missouri Pacific, C&NW.
BRAKIE Tom:Why don't people use their real names at the bottom of their posts? ------------------------------------- Some of us do..Others? Ah,mmm,maybe they forgot their real name or lost their name tag?
Larry,
That's why I have mine on a sticky note at the bottom of my monitor.
Well that didn't come across the way I intended. Something got lost in the translation from what I was saying to what came out in electrons. It was meant to be a humorous attempt to turn the question around and think about it from the perspective of "why should someone post a bio?" instead of "why doesn't someone post a bio?" And yes, if we were all sitting around the table, having coffee and scones, I would still have said it the same way; you just would have gotten the non verbals as well. Sorry, insults were not intended. As my daughter puts it, "if you fall down a best friend laughs and says 'get up, stupid.'" I regrettably assumed a level of familiarity among this board that isn't there.
Thanks Lion, a Mogul would actually interest me when it hits the shelves. Whether steam or diesel, I much prefer smaller, local and switching power to big, superpower engines.
Uhm, wow! Seems like some folks have their knickers in a knot over what was really a simple inquiry.
I have always found it interesting how the lack of being face to face changes communication between people. The anonymity that communicating on the internet provides emboldens some to the point of appearing not to care how they express something or who they embarrass, insult or demean. After that first verbal shot has been thrown topics that may have been of great interest to many on this forum devolve into sometimes very nasty exchanges that quite frankly do nothing to promote the hobby we all enjoy. I am just as guilty of doing this as many others.
Recently a thread began to question the legality of posting certain items. I posted a response to that question that came off as authoritative and, quite frankly, arrogant. Richhotrain, a well respected member of this forum took me to task about it. My response to Richhotrain I am not proud of either, but instead of taking offense Richhotrain simply stated why he had responded, and how he perceived the tone of my post.
Guess what? He was right! I let my frustration dictate my tone, and in doing so came off sounding negative in a way I never intended.
Perhaps we should all try and take a deep breath and think before we fire off a response that we might end up regretting later. While this hobby is something we all share and cherish, it is, after all, just a hobby.
Finally, just to stay a little on topic, I don’t have a bio because I’m not sure what to write. I do, however have my real full name in my signature.
I find it tends to keep me honest, and I hope it always keeps me humble. . .
Chris Ballinger
Modeling the Clementon Branch of the Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines in HO scale
SpaceMouseI'm just lazy. Or it was a low priority. And I hate writing bios. When I'm interviewed they have to drag a bio out of me. I have needed to update my bio on my biz page for years.
I am just paranoid about posting any information about myself anywhere on the internet. I have a FB page and even there I am only giving out the basics. Not that I don't trust anyone in this forum, it's just a matter of trying to maintain my on line privacy such as it is.
There's never time to do it right, but always time to do it over.....
Hello NP,
Why are you upset? Didn't seem like a waste of "everyone's time".
There were a good number of, what appeared to be, sincere answers to your question. Some of the other posters were defensive in that they thought that you were suggesting that they provide detailed personal info. But you weren't and that was eventually made clear. But what was nasty?
Your reply "Fill in a biography or don't, makes no difference to me!" makes you appear as if you are "thin skinned" which would seem unlikely for a gentleman of your background and experience.
You asked a good opening question, so why not just respond to the posts that you feel you can connect with instead of going into defense mode. Just let it ride............
NP2626 I guess I just can't ask a benign question without someone making nasty comments! So, this was just another waste of my and everyone else's time. Sorry I had a general question! Fill in a biography; or, don't, makes no difference to me!
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NP2626 Why don't/didn't you add a biography to your profile? When I see someone post to thread and they have given an interesting; or contentious, post, I would like to read more about that person. So, I click on their name and 90% of the time, the poster has added no further information! I wonder why we're so secretive about who we are and what we've done?
Why don't/didn't you add a biography to your profile? When I see someone post to thread and they have given an interesting; or contentious, post, I would like to read more about that person. So, I click on their name and 90% of the time, the poster has added no further information!
I wonder why we're so secretive about who we are and what we've done?
UP 4-12-2 gregc when reading someone's post or response, wouldn't knowing that persons age, experience in modeling, perhaps the size and completeness of their model railroad, other interests and/or occupation be helpful in judging that opinion or posting a response? Aren't all these things people could post in their biography without much risk? Why does it matter how many posts they've had or how many years that person has modeled whatever road? Just because someone has been in a hobby for 40 years does not necessarily make them really good at it--it just means they are at least middle aged. I'm a prime example of that. I am much less likely to trust the frequent posters on some forums because I have learned that most of them do not know as much as they think they know--some of them just like to talk an awful lot, period. On some forums people get away with libel and deserve to be sued. I am also less likely to use my name at the bottom of a post since there are people out there who have already been very difficult for me to deal with in the past. In fact, I would change my name on this forum to a completely new name, but short of using a new email address, I can't figure out how to do that. I wish I could get anonymity back. There's enough nasty nutjobs out there in model railroading--and I've dealt with too many. In fact, perhaps I'll go sign up for that new email address right now, and will share even less information in the future. We'll see if this is my last topic as 4-12-2, or not. Best Regards-- me