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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Tuesday, February 5, 2013 8:06 PM

Time to call it a night. Night everyone.

The Lehigh Valley Railroad, the Route of the Black Diamond Express, John Wilkes and Maple Leaf.

-Jake, modeling the Barclay, Towanda & Susquehanna.

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Posted by JeremyB on Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:25 PM

Hi Guys

Just sitting here browsing the forums trying to stay up as long as I can so I can sleep as long as I can tomorrow. I start that job tomorrow on the night shift ( 7pm-7am ) and at the moment I am really having some doubts. I have never worked a night shift before and have never worked a 12, aside from working overtime but never a scheduled 12 hour shift. I hope I can adjust somewhat. I know for certain that come Thursday morning I'm going to be exceptionally tired. Its going to be quite different for me that's for sure. I hate being the "new" guy but then again who does right?

Didn't do anything on the layout of model train front today, might be until the weekend before I get to anything. Well I will be back tomorrow sometime. Im going to go watch some TV.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:37 PM

Looks like it's that time again. I'm calling it a night. See y'all tomorrow.



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Posted by pascaff* on Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:45 PM

  Hi Folks,

     It seems I missed alot during my mourning absence. Losing a spouse is not easy, especially when you have known that person for 54 years.

  Jeff Sorry to hear about your mom. The pics from the memorial service were nice.

  Ulrich Sorry to hear what is going on with your mom and dad.

     As we get older, losing loved ones seems to be a too often occurance. My wife passed away Nov 15, and my mother-in-law, yesterday.

   One of the last things my wife said to me was "use as much of the downstairs as you want for your trains." I moved the L shaped layout from my upstairs office and took over what is supposed to be the dining rooom. It will eventually be an around the wall layout.

  I hope to be able to read and post on the forums again in a regular manner. Thanks to all for your support. 

Prayers to all in need.

 Paul 

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Posted by kbkchooch on Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:59 PM

Paul

1st your wife, now your MIL. Words fail me, but I'm putting you on out prayer list. Angel

Peace.

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:08 PM

Evenin' folks!

Janie, can I get a refill on the decaf?  Thank you Ma'am...

I ran a few errands today like mailing out the Division Newsletter to those who don't have computers or email (or won't trust us with the email address...), picked up a couple packs of the hearing aid screens that go in the tube to keep ear wax out of it, got some $$$ at the bank and got my hair cut (actually I had all of them cut while I was there).  My barber has been having some major health problems (he was a heavy smoker and liked his beer for many, many years...) and is now talking about retiring!  I told him I didn't like that idea at all.  first my Pastor, them my dentist and now the Barber I have been going to for over 30 years!  Too much stuff going on these days!

Ulrich, I do hope that you will get the lions share of whatever estate your parents have for all the care and time you have spent helping your parents, but now it is time to just do what you can and have no regrets.  your brother may be left with many regrets all to soon....  My prayers continue to go out to you and your family!

Ken, good to hear your toe is finally healing!

Paul good to see you back in the diner!  I know all to well what you have been going through.  I still miss my wife more than can be understood by many people and she died over 25 years ago.  It does get better, but the ache remains for a long time....  Be blessed!

Gave Blackie his meds and fixed the two kitties dinner (canned food added to the dry).  Had to pick up Blackie and put him down near the kitchen.  He slid and slipped all over the place, but did manage to hobble out to eat his dinner.  He then hobbled in and laid down on the dinning room floor for a while.  He finally got up and walked fairly well back to the living room and climbed back up on the couch.  Poor little guy...  I just hope we can get him stabilized.

Did get some quality time this evening in the train room.  Started some w*rk on more scenery in the new room tonight.  I can't finish some other projects until items come back in stock...

My son called this evening and needs me to watch Granddaughter #2 for a couple hours tomorrow.  I will take the charging cord with me and he can pay for my trip back home...  Fair is fair! Whistling

Prayers for all in need, and I know there are many here!

73

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:13 PM

Good Morning!

5am and I am up for quite a few hours already. Did not catch much sleep last night. I hope a hot shower will perk me up a bit. As soon as we have daylight, I will go to see my Mom. I have not yet informed my Dad, I don´t know how to do that.

There is only one excuse for my brother - it is a 350 mile drive to get here from where he lives. Would not have stopped me from seeing my parents maybe for the last time. His choice, I know the day will come when he will regret it.

Paul, I am so sad to hear about your losses. If I were at home right now, I´d light up a candle in our little church for your wife and MIL.

Blessings to all!

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:26 PM

Paul .... Your friends here in the DIner care about you; so please let us know if we can be of help to you during this difficult time. Ray has some words of wisdom that may be a comfort to you.  You-Got-A-Wanta and Rob lost their wives in recent months, too.

Rob ..... I have several Walthers passenger cars, and I like them. The Pennsy T-1 is a huge engine, and so make sure you have room if that's what you want.

Galaxy .... I hopr you are much better when you awaken in the morning. Thanks for posting the interesting links to the Hawaiian railways.

Everybody ... Darren has some interesting ideas in his proposed layout. I suggest you go to his link. You may have some suggestions for him.

On my layout, the scenery project had tracks blocked which lead to Union Station. Passenger trains could not be operated for the past week. Today, I re-opened the tracks. First train departing Union Station was my CB&Q 4-8-2 (with its newly installed decoder) and 7 CB&Q heavyweight passenger cars.

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:09 AM

Good Morning! from Tipton IN.

Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Cool

Mischief

TIPTON

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:12 AM

Morning Kona coffee with Pineapple muffins in the diner..

ALOHA!!

GOOD MORNING!!!

Today is Wednesday, February 6th, 2013!!!

I feel a  little better and managed to keep down some soup last night.

AngelThere a few PRAYER CANDLES LIT for those who: need special thoughts and prayers, for those who have ailing loved ones and for those who have recently lost loved onesAngel

Try and make it a good day

Geeked

 

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:30 AM

ALOHA!

Kauai Railroads:

Railroads on Kauai date from 1881 with the first three miles of rail laid at Kilauea   Plantation, and by 1915 there were nearly 200 miles of narrow gauge track  in service on the sugar plantations of the Island.

Early sugar planters encountered transportation problems from the start, struggling with wagons on unpaved roads to move cane from the fields to the mills and processed sugar to the ports for shipment to market. In late1881 management of the Kilauea Plantation ordered rail equipment from the John Fowler Co, of Leeds, England.  Track gauge was 2' and the tiny (likely 6 tons) 0-4-2 Fowler locomotive could move up to ten loaded cars of cut cane in one train.

While the original  line at Kilauea Plantation remained at 2' gauge to the end, all the other lines on Kauai chose 30" gauge, the only Island in the Hawaiian Chain to  run with this gauge.

By 1887 the Koloa Sugar Plantation operation needed more powerful engines and ordered a 10-ton, 0-4-2T locomotive from the Hohenzollern Co. of Germany. Today this engine is preserved by the Grove Farm Homestead Museum in operating condition - it is the oldest functioning plantation locomotive in Hawaii and is put in steam occasionally  for special events.

As  the lines increased in length and management wanted to move larger quantities of sugar cane per trip, the locomotives were upgraded to larger units. The Baldwin Locomotive Works, of Philadelphia, became the prime supplier to  most Hawaii plantations and Kauai was no exception. Initially the 0-4-2 design was popular, but soon the larger 0-6-2 Saddle tank  was favored because of the high tractive effort and the ability to negotiate less than perfect track. Historians have called these the "Bulldog Baldwins" for their squat, compact appearance and renown pulling ability. At one point in history there were more than 20 of these engines in service on Kauai at once. Three of them survive in the collection of the Grove Farm Homestead Museum, two of which are operational.

By 1927 plantation  managers began to experiment with internal combustion engines and a 12-ton  Plymouth diesel was placed in service at the Kekaha Sugar Company and was  soon followed by similar units on other operations. In 1936 management at  the Lihue Plantation purchased a 10-ton Whitcomb diesel-mechanical engine, which proved to be successful. The following year a second, similar enginewas brought on line.

Also on the KPRY roster is a 1948 GE diesel-electric  engine similar to the early GE units purchased by Lihue Plantation Co.

Unfortunately, THey experimented with motor trucks to meet their hauling needs, and the locos were scrapped on site, sold to other Kauai RRs or shipped off somewhere else.

Mahalo {thank you} for reading this history snippet.

Have a great day!

Geeked

 

 

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 6:22 AM

Good Morning.

Work tonight. Things have been going in such a way that I think I will have work all this week.

Darren. So far it looks good. What era is it going to be?

 

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 6:40 AM

Good morning. It's 51° with 100% humidity and dense fog. It'll be cloudy with a fair chance of rain. The high will be 68°.


Today I'll try to get the model# of the new tractor and maybe get a few photos. Later I can look it up online and maybe get a PDF copy of the operating manual so I can read it at my leisure. Knowing my father he's already squirreled away the paper copy and I won't see it again until parts are needed. I leafed through the manual initially to note enough of the operating procedures to figure out the controls and the dos and don't s thereof. Driving it is a lot like the old one but there's still a bit of a learning curve involved. With the Peerless the throttle and drive lever were tied together. On the Murray they're separate. The Peerless had shift on the go forward and reverse and could go directly from forward to reverse. The Murray can't go from forward to reverse without coming to a full stop first. On the Peerless hitting the brake disengaged the throttle and drive. No such luck with the Murray. There's essentially no brake until the drive lever is in neutral and by then it's stopped anyway so there's no point to it unless it's on a hill. Then the brake will keep it from rolling. In the next few days I should be able to experiment with it and figure out a bit more about it. From there I can figure out how to make it do things the know-it-all that wrote the manual says it can't do. Usually they're just going on notes that outline the procedures in black and white without looking at the gray areas in-between. The tractor came with a two year warranty. That wasn't quite good enough. We got a three year warranty with an option to extend it. Well enough about that.

If the weather should decide to preclude any outside activity I can always work on cleaning up the layout or work on a project and make a new mess.

Well last night I finally changed my Photobucket account to the new version. It didn't take long to figure it out and discard most of the things I don't want, like thumbnail IMG tags. I know some had a problem with those. So far the only thing I don't like is they did away with pages and everything is in one long string that reloads when I get to the bottom of the screen. That's a big bother if the photo I want is near the end. Maybe I can look around and possibly find a way around that.



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Posted by TMarsh on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:11 AM

Good Morning!!!

Coffee and a bowl of mixed berry mini frosted wheat please. Thanks.

Paul- Welcome back. I bet it is very hard to lose a spouse, I’m very sorry for that. To lose you MIL so soon as well.... Prayers continue.

Darren- I never was any good at track plans, but I do like what I see.

Jeffrey- Sounds like the new tractor operates very similar to my old ’77 Cub Cadet Hydrostat. My lever is on the right of the dash. Throttle is separate. You can change directions by simply pulling the lever back or forward depending, but the speed inceases or decreases the farther you push or pull, so as you pull the lever back say, the tractor has stopped by the time you get to the “neutral” to change directions.... no matter how brieflyMischief. Can’t break the law of physics you knowConfused. It does have a brake pedal, but as you said, pretty much only useful for parking though it does work as a brake and will slow the tractor down in relation to how far you push the pedal not necessarily through actual braking power but because it also moves the Hydro lever towards neutral as well. That way is an effective way to stop, though not always the smoothest. I would assume it is similar to your foot operated ones, excepting that it is a lever on the dash attached instead of the foot pads, which I see would be very difficult for you to operate. The Cub Cadet would be ideal. Basically no foot controls needed. Just the brake to start, but that little issue could be very easily rectified.

After ZivaStick out tongue……don’t know. Brenda is sending me to Sam’s Club today to pick up snacks e.g. candy, for the Junior High dance. So I will be in town for that so……Hmm, guess I’ll time that around lunch with the Chinese girls! Then Church meeting tonight. Mean time hopefully I’ll get to look at the train stuff. I wanna get that bridge set.

Ya’ll have a good day, ya hear!!!!

EDIT: Oh TOP..... eat up, I don't get TOP very often.

Todd  

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I'm a small town boy. A product of two people from even smaller towns. I don’t talk on topic….. I just talk. Laugh

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:41 AM

TMarsh
Jeffrey- Sounds like the new tractor operates very similar to my old ’77 Cub Cadet Hydrostat. My lever is on the right of the dash. Throttle is separate. You can change directions by simply pulling the lever back or forward depending, but the speed inceases or decreases the farther you push or pull, so as you pull the lever back say, the tractor has stopped by the time you get to the “neutral” to change directions.... no matter how briefly. Can’t break the law of physics you know. It does have a brake pedal, but as you said, pretty much only useful for parking though it does work as a brake and will slow the tractor down in relation to how far you push the pedal not necessarily through actual braking power but because it also moves the Hydro lever towards neutral as well. That way is an effective way to stop, though not always the smoothest. I would assume it is similar to your foot operated ones, excepting that it is a lever on the dash attached instead of the foot pads, which I see would be very difficult for you to operate. The Cub Cadet would be ideal. Basically no foot controls needed. Just the brake to start, but that little issue could be very easily rectified.

That sounds very similar. This one has the drive lever on the left fender by the seat. The deck height and PTO controls are on the right fender. Parking brake lock is to the left of the steering wheel, ignition switch to the right. The drive lever works like you described. The further it's pushed the faster you go, same for reverse.

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:50 AM

Morning guys

Paul, That blows you lost 2 family memer in such a short time. My condolences.

Jeff and Todd, I guess my mower is an odd-ball. It has a clutch/brake on the left side controlled by a pedal. The lever for deck hieght is on the rear right side of the hood towards the driver's seat. Blade engagement is on the right rear facing the driver. Speed control is on the right fender. There is no drive lever or gas pedal. It has a speed control setting, with 6 notches for foward and 1 reverse.

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 9:01 AM

Coffee in a FOGGY & SOUTHERN mug, please.

Have a good day all.

Healing thoughts to those in need.

Cheers! Cowboy Rob

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Posted by JeremyB on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 9:53 AM

Paul : Sorry to hear about your wife and MIL

Ulrich : also I hope you and Petra can get through this, sad to hear your brother wont help out.

Howmus: Also sad about poor blackie, how old is the little guy?

Jeff: You should take up lawnmower repair, maybe make a few bucks as it sounds like you know your way around tractors and lawnmowers.

Well, today is the day I start the new job. Tonight 7pm-7am. I really wanted to stay up last night and try to sleep during the day today but I was up at 7:30. And I know I wont be able to sleep at all today. I think the nervousness and excitement that comes with a new job ( new job, new people ) will carry me through the night and sometime around 5am I will be completely exhausted. the good thing is you only work two days and then get two off except every other weekend then its three on. I have been trying ot keep busy today doing housework and what not to keep my mind busy. the wife says If I cant sleep I should be sitting or laying on the couch to save my strength and energy. I'm sure she is right but I need to keep busy when my mind is racing. Any tips and well wishes would be great at the moment. You know how it is when you get encouragement from people, kind of makes things a bit easier.

Jeremy

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:55 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Nothing for me right now, I'll be heading out to my son's house soon to watch Granddaughter #2 for a couple hours.

Sun has been coming out every now and then and i have been watching the meter down cellar go from 500w to 3220w as I was finishing some laundry.  A guy from the electric company that installed the system had to stop by and get another photo for their records.  Seems they misplaced the one they had of the spot.  Made over 11Kw yesterday and should making about the same today.  By June I should be making 25 or more Kw a day.

Did a bit more on the new scenery section in progress while I was waiting for the laundry to finish.  It is the other corner opposite the last section I got done.  When that is finished I will have the entire background of that wall done and I can start putting together the rest of the trackage (return loop) along that wall.  At least I am getting so I can fikgure out which first thing I have to do first these days.

Jeremy, Thanks.  My cats were gifts from my Father just before he died, and will be 12 years old in April.  Not really old for cats.

Ulrich, I do hope your brother at least can over to see his parents before it is too late.  When my Mother was dieing my sister in Indiana drove almost non-stop from her home in South bend (Stopped just once for gas) be see her before she passed.  My mom's 3 children were together at the end and were able to put aside all differences during that time.  My two sisters have not been at all close as the sister in Canandaigua insists on forcing her religious thoughts on the other sister (The Rev.).  I just let it go in one ear and out the other....

Gotta get a move on.

Later!

73

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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:36 AM

Coffee refill, please.

If you haven't seen it, here is a train video to put a smile on your face:

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/3-olds-birthday-dreams-come-true-first-train-221036712--abc-news-parenting.html

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:30 PM

Took some photos of the new tractor this morning. Here's one of my father sitting on it. He's like 6' 5" so he makes it look smaller than it is. He's tried running it and has already scared himself off of it. See that pole in the background? He got a very good look at it as he just barely kept from hitting it! I wish I'd gotten a photo of the look on his face! It was PRICELESS!



For those interested you can see more photos HERE.

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Posted by JeremyB on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:41 PM

Nice tractor Jeff

WOW, your dad is a BIG guy. His arms are the size of my legs,lol. I wouldn't want to anger him.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:52 PM

JeremyB
WOW, your dad is a BIG guy. His arms are the size of my legs,lol. I wouldn't want to anger him.

I think you could outlast him. He's only 78. Then again, he is in great shape.

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:54 PM

Good afternoon. Tired right now, but I suppose that comes with having a swimming unit in gym. It gets to be not very fun when you're tired.

The Lehigh Valley Railroad, the Route of the Black Diamond Express, John Wilkes and Maple Leaf.

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Posted by JeremyB on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:55 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

JeremyB
WOW, your dad is a BIG guy. His arms are the size of my legs,lol. I wouldn't want to anger him.

I think you could outlast him. He's only 78. Then again, he is in great shape.

Your Dad was in the army right?

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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:57 PM

Lunch Special, please.

***Jeffrey, really nice looking machine you've got there.Thumbs Up Enjoy it! Wish I had that one instead of this Cub Cadet that gets stuck at the slightest hint of wet grass and forget about making it over a patch of mud or going up much of a hill. It also only runs well on HIGH.

Missed the upholstery guy twice today, so no seat yet for the little JD.

Sticking around today incase the splitter is fixed and ready for pickup. The two old fellas didn't want it taking up space in their workshop so planned on trying to get it running same day, which would be terrific.

Think I'll take this short respite to try out the HO Climax and see if it runs.

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 2:00 PM

thanks for sharing Cedar!

she looked happy.

not sure I'm going to pull the trains out today either can't decide upon what I want to do.

SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.

 http://www.youtube.com/user/SGTDUPREY?feature=guide 

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 2:24 PM

Whistling

JEFF,  You are really spoiled,

Even a cup / drink holder on that Tractor for your RBF.

Johnboy out...................

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 2:39 PM

Good afternoon/evening

Still have the stomach bug. aboe to hold down soup but it roils my intestines fairly hard.

The cramps are the worst.

It's been 24 hours and so its not the 24 hour kind, so I give it 3 days then go to the DR. if not better.

Alos sleeping ALOT. and hard when I do about every 1 hours awake, alseep for 3.

well, I'd best get back to bed.

Have e great day.

ULRICH- I DO hope your brother comes to his senses, even if he isn't coming as he feels he 'has done his fair share already'. We allowed my other's two sisters to get here to say goodbyes before we disconnected Life support on my  mother. Then everyone had their goodbyes. I hope it doesn't turn out to be too late for him. I DO hope things go swiftly for your parents if it is to be, nto slow hard and painful. I have a prayer candle just for you and yours.

have a good dfay

 

Geeked

-G .

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 HO and N Scale.

After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.

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  • From: Orig: Tyler Texas. Lived in seven countries, now live in Sundown, Louisiana
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 2:55 PM

JeremyB
Your Dad was in the army right?

Twenty-seven years. He retired in 1980 and has been working more or less steady ever since. The last time he decided to 'rest' the house grew from 2,400 square feet to 5,000 square feet.

Running Bear, Sundown, Louisiana
          Joined June, 2004

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Space Mouse for president!
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beatus homo qui invenit sapientiam


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