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Super Speed!!!
Posted by alloboard on Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:16 PM

    Should I increase the voltage or change a motor in order to achieve scale speeds of over 150mph? I am looking to achieve a speed of at least 200mph for my HO Jouef SNCF TGV. Which vendor produces that type of motor for HO scale locomotives?  I If a voltage increase is needed how would I do that? I have a Digitrax DB150 at 12-15V.

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Posted by St Francis Consolidated RR on Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:31 PM

   wow!!!! you must have a LOT of confidence in your trackwork!!

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:34 PM

    

But...But...But....WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!?   

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Posted by cowman on Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:37 PM

You may have to rely on a change of gearing rather than a change in motor. 

I think I'll pass on a ride.  I like to see the scenery as something but a blurr.

Good luck,

Richard

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:59 PM

Do you actually have a layout that can handle 200 scale mph?  That is REALLY fast, in the vicinity of 200 feet per minute.

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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:03 PM

 You have to change your name to All Fell Off Board!

 Friend of mine has a Bachmann Euro Train that will hit some what in that speed.

 Cuda Ken

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:20 PM

Gotta ask the same question as blownout cylinder: Why do you want to run something that fast?

The easiest way is to:

1. Find yourself a cheap Tyco locomotive

2. Run it flat out at warp speed on address "00"

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Posted by BobH13 on Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:39 PM

If you are talking about real 200mph I doubt you can do it.  If you are talking about a "scale" speed then possibly.

Are you modeling the chineese bullet train?  Just wondering.

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:39 PM

You could repower it with an old Athearn rubber band drive chassis. That'll give you all the speed you want and more!

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:22 PM

Kind of reminds ya of the time Tim "the Toolman" Taylor put the Dustbuster motor in the slot car doesn't it?

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:46 PM

Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:09 PM

alloboard
Should I increase the voltage or change a motor in order to achieve scale speeds of over 150mph? I am looking to achieve a speed of at least 200mph. Which vendor produces that type of motor for HO scale locomotives?  I If a voltage increase is needed how would I do that? I have a Digitrax DB150 at 12-15V.

My daughter's  ~300mph winner of the locomotive drag races.  It has a 8600 rpm at 12V. can motor added to a Athearn rubber band drive.  The drive was "regeared" by making the drive shaft thicker with a rubber hose.  As much weight as possible was cut out of the frame including the entire bottom of the fuel tank.    It could be over voltaged to make it go faster but one would have to consider how many drag runs it could do before the motor began to melt down.

Note it runs on a special drag strip race track.  I don't think it could ever go around a corner.
 

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:32 PM

This is what you need!

http://youtu.be/YngIuQoBRIs 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, October 28, 2011 2:28 AM

If you can't find that T(o)yco Turbo-Train, an old Athearn Hustler is a suitable substitute.  I think mine had a MINIMUM speed in the 200 mph range...

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - track speed 70 scale KPH, maximum)

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Posted by Medina1128 on Friday, October 28, 2011 6:28 AM

Speed??? Cannibalize one of those old Cox .049 planes. The added bonus is the smell of NITRO!

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Posted by mobilman44 on Friday, October 28, 2011 6:42 AM

Hi!

While I wouldn't allow that test on my layout, I sure would love to get into a "who can build the fastest" loco contest - assuming we had a test layout.

I could imagine a layout shaped like one of the faster Nascar tracks, with long straights and high degree banking.   We could go for top speed, acceleration, and lap times.  

As an earlier poster indicated, I do believe the fastest HO locos I have had or been around were the Athearn rubber band drives of the 1960s.  They had F7s and GP9s primarily, and they were really fast - often finding their way off the curves.   If I wanted to speed them up (at the cost of low speed and pulling power), I would alter the pulley on either the simple drive shaft or the truck shaft.  You would have to build one and attach it (pulley), as the shafts were just simple pieces of hard straight wire (as I recall).

Good luck!   I would sure like to know how this turns out.

ENJOY  !

 

Mobilman44

 

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Posted by cacole on Friday, October 28, 2011 11:18 AM

Get a Fleishman HO model of the German ICE train -- it will go that fast on DC.

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