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Worlds fastest model train in any scale.

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Worlds fastest model train in any scale.
Posted by Alantrains on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 2:58 AM

Hi from down under,

I know what has the world record for the fastest train, but what is the fastest speed a model train has run? Of course this is not a question about good modeling, just a fun thing. maybe each major scale could have their own record. I prefer to run at slow speed on my layout. but we did have a rubberband drive 4 wheel Hustler that used to almost fly around our club layout. Never did find out what actual speed it went.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 4:48 AM

In HO, seems like any 4 axle Athearn Blue Box locomotive with no flywheels from the 1970s could qualify as some could run a scale 150 scale mph and with a "tuned up" motor, close to 180scale mph.

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Posted by georgev on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 7:56 AM

AntonioFP45

In HO, seems like any 4 axle Athearn Blue Box locomotive with no flywheels from the 1970s could qualify as some could run a scale 150 scale mph and with a "tuned up" motor, close to 180scale mph.

I think the Athearn Hi-F (aka rubber band) drive would beat the geared models.  I had an F7 rubber band loco as a kid - it would fly, like the Hustler mentioned in the original post.   I also had at one point a couple of mid-60's vintage Rivarossi Krauss-Maffei units that ran very smoothly but very fast.

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:04 AM

Fleishman makes an HO model of the German ICE train that can go a scale speed close to the actual speed of the prototype.

One of our club members who has since moved had one that went so fast we all thought it was going to fall off the track on a high, curved trestle and held our hands out to catch it, but it didn't derail.  I think the wheels were magnetic and it had a very low center of gravity.

 But, I think the old Athearn Hi-F rubber band drive was actually faster.

 

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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:09 AM

I hesitate to admit this ....when I was a lad I used to set up my mother's laundry basket at a strategic spot and let the Athearn Hustler fly off the end of the layout and sail through the air, landing -- if i did my planning right -- in the soft confines of the laundry basket.

In every other respect however I was and am a VERY serious scale model railroader.

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Posted by simon1966 on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:15 AM

I would put my sons dual motorized Hornby Eurostar up against anything!Big Smile  It is far and away the fastest of our locos.  Here it is running on at a fairly crowded operating session with not much opportunity to open it up.  It is going about max in the last few seconds of this short Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opvfuj_pHFk

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:48 AM

I am not quite sure whether you mean actual speed or scale speed.

I have a N scale Minitrix 0-6-0 from the early days, which is topping a scale speed of 200 mph, yet it is slower than my HO scale Heljan BR class 26 Diesel doing a scale speed of 130 mph.

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Posted by simon1966 on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:52 AM

Good point Ulrich.  The Marklin N scale ICE absolutely flies, as do many of the Kato N scale Shinkansen models.   I would suspect that in scale speed these are quicker than the HO high speed trains.

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Posted by bogp40 on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:07 AM

Is kinda like, the "slot car" how fast can it go thing... My son's first cheap trin set Bachman Santa Fe pancake was the fastest thing ever run on the layout.  Srceaming around w/ nuts and bolts sometimes rocks in the gons.  Kept a 6 year old happy for a while, or until he wanted something more like Dad's stuff. Got him his first real decent running (an Athearn CR SW1500).  It still runs great 20 years later.

But the absolute, "Fastest" thing was a modified piece from a club member. We called it the "Batmobile" This thing was basically  a motor w/ propeller and a black batmobile shell. It would usually become airborn. Was only allowed to run on straight sections and where it wouldn't wipe out scenery and structures.  It was more like a rocket sled. The older club members never ever wanted to see this thing put on the layout. Never knew what happened to it. Just disappeared one day.

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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:27 AM

We had a American Flyer New Haven FA or PA growing up that was an absolute rocket.  I bet that thing would do 120 sMPH - easy!

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:31 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YngIuQoBRIs

It HAS to be this one: Tyco Turbo Supertrain set, its just plain nuts!

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Posted by mobilman44 on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:18 AM

Hi!

I've been around model trains since the early '50s, and easily the fastest I ever had (or saw) were the Athearn rubber band drive locos of the '60s.   The GPs and Fs would easily flip on a curve so you had to be really careful.  

When I was 15 or so, a friend and I set up a RR dragstrip, laying out a double main of two tangent tracks, about 25 feet long to the best of my memory.   We would play with the motors and axles and did whatever we could to defeat friction, and then watch them fly!

As I understand, the PRR and NYC did something like that in real life on some trackage between Chicago and NYC. 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:40 AM

mobilman44

Hi!

As I understand, the PRR and NYC did something like that in real life on some trackage between Chicago and NYC. 

The fastest thing I have ever owned was an Athearn rubber band drive GP7.  It would run faster than I wanted it to on about 5 volts...

The PRR and NYC had parallel starts (Broadway Limited and 20th Century Limited) out of Chicago.  IIRC, the PRR K4 had slightly faster initial acceleration, but the NYC Hudson would finally pass and pull away.  There are things to be said for a bigger firebox.  Of course, any ten-year-old on a contemporary Schwinn could beat both trains cold for the first quarter mile...

Back to the original question.  In all honesty, I've never been tempted to find out.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - track speed, 70kph minus)

 

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Posted by Medina1128 on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:50 AM

vsmith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YngIuQoBRIs

It HAS to be this one: Tyco Turbo Supertrain set, its just plain nuts!

I don't know about Tyco's Supertrain, but  pretty much ANY locomotive from Tyco would qualify as a "slot car on rails". My son used to make them go so fast, they would literally tip over on any 18" curve following a long stretch of straight track.

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Posted by Alantrains on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 4:38 PM

Thanks everyone,

I remember the Krauss Muffiei diesel hydraulics too. Our club had a display layout with 28foot long straight track and 2 ft radius curves at the ends. Ee had to slow both the hustler and the Kraus Muffei's so they wouldn't tip over on the curves. The hustler had an interesting action if it only tipped a little the resultant loss of power would slow it enough to drop back onto the rails and it would do that around the 180degree bend at one end, but not the other end. Obviously the track at one end had smoother curves.

I thought I might have got a reply about one of the propeller driven trains, but it looks like rubberband drive wins the speed record.

In regard to scale speed vs actual speed, I was asking the question in regard to actual speed. Perhaps I should sent a request to Mythbusters or James May.

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Posted by G Paine on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 4:52 PM

I would vote for the Hi-F Hustler as the fastest loco I have seen. I would make mine go even faster by removing one rubber band. The band would slip at first, but when it caight up with the motor the thing would fly - both on and off the track. There was one place where it would go off teh track and fly about 4 feet before hitting the cellar wall about 2 feet fron the floor.

Another potential fast mover I have seen recently was a G scale thing with a propeller as a driver. Slow to start, it would get moving quite fast with litttle rolling resistance. The guy operating it would have to cut it back to get it around the corners on the portable layout.. It seemed to have a low center of gravity

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Posted by Comrad_Durandal on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 4:53 PM

The World's Fastest Model Train is.... the one you are trying to chase across the club layout because it's decided to go full tilt for the horizon, all obstacles be damned.

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Posted by csxns on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 5:19 PM

The RR GGI that i got in 1977 was fast and now it is wore out.Now i have one of those Kraus Muffei so i will go and dig it out and see if it still runs and give it a try.

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 5:31 PM

 Real MPH would be fun to know. While I was in to HO slot cars I had some that would do 350 sMPH plus.

 Lets see if this works.

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j284/cudaken/Videos/?action=view&current=IM000037.mp4

 I was not running it as fast as it would go. Trying to hold the camera and control the car was hard. OH, being a Mopar Guy, it is a 1970 Super Bird. Whistling

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 5:34 PM

 Hum, plays much better on the computer here at the house.

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Posted by Medina1128 on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 7:43 AM

Ken, was that the Superbird in the video? Looks "Petty Blue" to me.

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Posted by bogp40 on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 7:57 AM

Medina1128

Ken, was that the Superbird in the video? Looks "Petty Blue" to me.

Ken, All I can see is the" Blue Streak".  That garage has seen quite the transformation in the past few years!!!

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 8:05 AM

 It is Petty's 70 Superbird. While the link on Photo bucket does not work real well, in person it was pretty much nothing but a blur. Straight is 14 feet long.

 Far as coming a long way, the slot cars is what got me into trains.

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Posted by CP5415 on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:45 PM

I'll try to bring Liam to a show so you can show him TA462.

Then again, maybe not, then he'll want ALL of my locomotives doing that!

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Posted by farrellaa on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 10:47 PM

If I remember correctly, the Athearn Hustler (4 wheel rubber band drive) was clocked at a scale 400 mph in one of the MR mags (most likely Model Railroader since that is the only one I read!) of the 70's. I have several and they will leave the tracks on a 24-30" radius curve when fully opened up. I am still planning to remotor one with the NWSL Staton drive. Wish Athearn would redo them with DCC and todays drive trains.

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Posted by wholeman on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:32 PM

In my experience, it would have to be the Life-Like Amtrak F40PH.  I still have one in a box.  I bet that thing could easily do 300 scale mph.

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Posted by simon1966 on Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:26 PM

Today at the K-10 layout, one of the guys had a scale MPH meter.  Here is the fastest run of one of the Hornby Eurostar drive units  http://youtu.be/6p9xhzdV8_A  It was much faster in one direction.   This is on the DCC track not the DC portion of the layout,

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:46 PM

Simon, you know I still have the RDC car with rubber band drive. Big Smile Maybe it is time for a show down at K-10? Laugh

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Posted by simon1966 on Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:28 PM

Sound like a plan Ken... Do you really think it could top 300 odd MPH?

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:37 PM

simon1966

Sound like a plan Ken... Do you really think it could top 300 odd MPH?

 Have no idea Simon, but might be fun to see how fast a Rubber Band drive can go. Besides, have not seen you or the lads in months.

 I am off this coming Thursday, PM me if you are going to be in town.

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