QUOTE: Originally posted by locomotive10 First of all, My dad was off and had had a very relaxing day, secondly I should have told him 4x8 instead of my original sign. I was mad so I put my parents name son their, to make my mother the good guy like she was and to make my dad the bad guy. You were right Oklahoma Train Nut, I was not being the christian I am. Recently I told my dad another size 4x8. And he thought it was brilliant and agrred to help me. I will put in a 2x4 stud off one in to put my much wanted passenger terminal and add another to build a loop. We decided to use DCC, after seeing waht It coulld do on the club layout. He wants to have a yard like the one on the club layout, 4x8. I have decided to model the chigago area because a number of railroads ran in chigago, to much to name now. Well, it all worked out, my dad is happy and quite frankly so am I. Nicholas