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1950s tract houses and an orange grove (pics)(UPDATED, go to last post)

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Posted by hornblower on Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:18 PM

Matt,

Your scene is really beginning to take shape and looks very nice.  As a resident of Southern California all my life, I can add a few more suggestions:

1)  It gets hot here in the summer.  Few homes had air conditioning in the 1950's so most houses were landscaped with large shade trees that would often dwarf the houses (I'm looking at a monstrous pecan tree in my back yard right now).  The Southern California climate allows many different species of trees to grow so many trees are imported (palm, eucalyptus, pine and various fruit bearing trees to name a few).  Keep in mind that these imported trees can grow here but most cannot reproduce here.  Thus, varieties like palms must always be imported and always appear in some form of purposely landscaped area.  Even the few you see growing in the middle of nowhere were planted by a person.

2)  Southern California gets very little rain.  Few homes had automatic sprinklers in the 1950's so most lawns showed evidence of this lack of water.  You might want to add some yellowed grass material to your lawns.  Varied patches of yellow in an otherwise late summer green lawn would be most accurate.  Coiled hoses attached to hose bibs on the sides of the houses might be another great detail.  Lengths of small diameter solder could be used to create such hoses.  A sprinkler head attached to the end of a hose could also be modeled using optic fibres to represent the spraying water.  Spray a little clear gloss on the grass around the sprinkler head and it would definitely look like the lawn was being watered.

3)  The Southern California climate allows lots of outdoor activity year round.  Add lots of residential figures, especially kids playing outdoors.  Large field games too big for a single yard were often played out in the residential streets.  You could add a bunch of kids harassing a driver for interrupting their game.  Outdoor meals were (still are) common.  Picnic tables and charcoal style barbeques would be appropriate in the back yards.

4)  Southern California is a car culture.  Even in the 1950's, many families owned more than one car, especially if there were teenage drivers living in a home.  Second cars, hot rods and other old beaters were a common sight parked in driveways and/or back yards.

5)  Southern California garages are most often used the way basements are in other areas -- mainly for storage.  Some people maintained their garage in a way that allowed a vehicle to still fit in the garage.  Many others packed their garages to overflowing with junk.  Open a garage door or two to expose the type of people living in each house.  Landscape maintenance often matched the condition of the garage interior.  A figure pushing a lawnmower or trimming bushes might be appropriate in a neat yard with a clean garage.  A ratty yard with a figure in a hammock might be appropriate for a house with a messy garage.

6)  Add details to you roofs.  Most houses have various attic vents and plumbing vent pipes penetrating the roof.  Most of these would be positioned so they would be more difficult to see from the street but they can occur anywhere a utility room exists inside the house.  Plastic kit part sprues are the cheapest material to use to create such details.  These items haven't changed much since the 1950's so just look at your own roof for ideas.  A few odd looking TV antenaes might be appropriate too.  Not every house had a TV in the 1950's and TV antenae designs were quite different depending on the brand.

I hope this helps.  It sure gave me a few ideas for my own 1950's Southern California layout.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:44 AM

don7

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 Southwest Chief:

By the way, I think you will find that the split-windshield Volkswagen bus is just a little anachronistic for the 1950s. According to my information the first VW Type 2s -- Vans, Transporters, Microbuses, whatever you want to call them -- were imported in very limited numbers as early as 1959 but really didn't take off in popularity until 1962 or 1963.

 

The first VW bus was introduced in 1950. Some were imported into the US but the first major importing in large numbers was in 1955.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/volkswagen-bus1.htm

 Now where were the pics of the VW vans?

The info I have is that in 1959 the number of imported units was about 6,500; I couldn't tell you what year they were first imported but my understanding is that prior to that 1959 model year total imports for the microbus was less than 3,000 units.

I owned a 1968 microbus that began falling apart almost immediately upon leaving the dealership in San Berdoo, Calif; I will admit that I would probably purchase a VW before I would purchase a Chrysler Motors anything but I don't intend on ever owning another one period!

 

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:05 PM

Thanks all.

The orange grove isn't finished yet, so I'll likely be adding more.  Just didn't have enough sponges at the time.

By the way, what I think is being confused as a VW van is actually a Metro delivery truck painted for the USPS:

It's made by Classic Metal Works (Mini Metals).  Here's the Walthers listing:

A VW van would be too modern for our 1957 American setting.  I try hard to keep the vehicles era appropriate for the most part.


US Mail Delivery Van

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Posted by don7 on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:55 PM

R. T. POTEET

 Southwest Chief:

By the way, I think you will find that the split-windshield Volkswagen bus is just a little anachronistic for the 1950s. According to my information the first VW Type 2s -- Vans, Transporters, Microbuses, whatever you want to call them -- were imported in very limited numbers as early as 1959 but really didn't take off in popularity until 1962 or 1963.

The first VW bus was introduced in 1950. Some were imported into the US but the first major importing in large numbers was in 1955.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/volkswagen-bus1.htm

 Now where were the pics of the VW vans?

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Posted by ChadLRyan on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:57 PM

I like what you have done with that area. I was going to plan a neighborhood a while back & when I started laying out lot sizes, I couldn't believe the amount of space just part of a city block will take up.  Your streets, lots, boulevards, & sidewalks look nicely done! I also like the different grass tones as well. 

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Posted by sfcouple on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:47 AM

I've spent a great deal of time in the San Joaquin Valley in California and like another poster mentioned you may want to double the amount of Orange Trees in your orchard.  Growers really pack them close together and you may also want to see if you can model something called a "smudge pot"---used to burn oil during freezing weather to help prevent freeze damage to citrus.  

Nice job of modeling, it looks very nice.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:37 AM

Southwest Chief

Been a while, but I laid down some new sod.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3271/houses11.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/536/houses12.jpg

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Don't get me wrong; you've done a good job but thinking of 1950's tract houses makes me think of:

Little boxes on the hillside,

Little boxes made of ticky-tacky,

Little boxes, little boxes, little boxes, all the same.

There's a green one, and a yellow one,

And a pink one, and a blue one,

And they're all made out of ticky-tacky,

And they all look just the same.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

By the way, I think you will find that the split-windshield Volkswagen bus is just a little anachronistic for the 1950s. According to my information the first VW Type 2s -- Vans, Transporters, Microbuses, whatever you want to call them -- were imported in very limited numbers as early as 1959 but really didn't take off in popularity until 1962 or 1963.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:03 AM

Been a while, but I laid down some new sod.

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Posted by SRN on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:39 PM

I worked one summer in a California grove (apricots, not oranges, but that shouldn't matter) back then. The first thing I noticed is your grove looks park like, not grove like. The fruit growers crowded their trees as closely as they could. There was barely any room between them. They even used special tractors with sweeping fenders to keep the tree branches out of the machinery.

You might consider doubling up on the number of trees in each row.

Other than that, it looks like 50s California. Nice work.

 

 

 

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:24 PM

Spent the weekend making orange trees.  They are cut from sponges and have skewer trunks.  I spray painted them but haven't put any foliage or oranges on them yet.  I also added some ground cover and test fit Wig Wag signals. 

Next on the list is to finish airbrushing the sidewalks.  I didn't like the way brush painting looked.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:47 PM

chutton01

What kind of Landscaping would suburban Southern California circa late 1950s?

My plan is to first put down grass ground cover.  Then maybe some bushes/hedges/flowers.

The red house and green house are supposed to be fairly new, so I might put in some small trees with support poles to look like new plantings.

I found some 1956 tract house plans online and the drawings show landscaping around the houses.  So I'll use these drawings as landscaping inspiration.

Here is a link:

1956 "Modern" Tract House Plans

There's a 1950s development in the San Juan Capistrano area called Los Amigos that I have been researching.  Online photos of this development have been helpful in planning the overall look I'm going for.

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Posted by chutton01 on Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:06 AM

What kind of Landscaping would suburban Southern California circa late 1950s?
I googled Orange County 1950s (going by your location), but the images that turned up didn't give a great overview of the area back then.  I remember there were lots of TV Sitcoms filmed around suburban LA in that era such as Leave It to Beaver,  Mr Ed, and so on, but what will be your take on it?

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Saturday, April 16, 2011 9:20 PM

Airbrushed the streets with Grimy Black this morning.  I'm waiting for the paint to fully cure before I glue the streets down.  And after that I'll add some road stripes, stop signs, etc...

I also started construction of another house (Alpine Division's Dr. Whyte's House).

In some of these photos you can see the old driveways and streets (painted black).  These will all be covered up with ground covering.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, April 11, 2011 3:53 PM

Southwest Chief

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7064/houses3h.jpg

 

Boy does this bring back memories of my Aunt trying to wrestle their Pontiac Strato chief into a garage about that big.

It's looking good and I am looking forward to progress photo's.Thumbs Up

 

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1950s tract houses and an orange grove (pics)(UPDATED, go to last post)
Posted by Southwest Chief on Monday, April 11, 2011 2:35 PM

This weekend I started a major rebuilding project on our HO layout.

The residential area on the layout is being completely redone with new streets, sidewalks, houses, school, and an orange grove.  The layout is set in Southern California during the late 1950s.

Below are some progress photos. 

The red and green houses are old Suydam tract house kits that I found on eBay over the years.  The school is a kitbash that started from a Busch Cinema.  The fruit stand is a new kit I just got from JV models, I altered it a bit.  The brown house was already on the layout and is a Suydam Brown Bungalow.  The stucco building behind the school was also already on the layout and is a Suydam Mission Style Station altered into a church.

As you can see there is lots left to do...finish the buildings, painting, landscaping, details, etc...

Any other questions, please ask.

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