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1950s tract houses and an orange grove (pics)(UPDATED, go to last post)

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Posted by Kyle on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:47 PM

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It is sad that Ford discountiued the Crown Victoria, they would still be making money with how many would be bought for Police department or Taxis.

It had to go.  It was the last rear wheel drive sedan left in production when it was discontinued in 2011.

Rich

I am sure they would have still sold, police favored rear wheel drive sedans because they suited their tactic best.  They were also easy to repair because of the body of frame design, just unscrew the body panel and replace it with a new one (very helpful when you hit other cars on purpose).  Plus taxi companies ha tons of parts and other crown victories so they would have continued to buy them (one company could build 40 crown victories with the spare parts they had).

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:45 PM

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So the basic layout cannot be changed - but can you expand it via a shelf or second level? Add a shelf, and maybe model an industrial area of LA/Orange counties? 

Unfortunately I don't think extra levels would work the way the room is set up.  It's actually in the third stall of our garage. 

The layout seems to be more town then trains Wink

We do have a few rail served industries though.  These include a citrus packing house with icing facility, a small warehouse like industry with a boxcar loading/unloading track, and a desert military base with a circus style loading/unloading ramp.

Icing Platform and Packing House:

Warehouse:

Military Base:

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:42 PM

Kyle

It is sad that Ford discountiued the Crown Victoria, they would still be making money with how many would be bought for Police department or Taxis.

It had to go.  It was the last rear wheel drive sedan left in production when it was discontinued in 2011.

Rich

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Posted by Kyle on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:38 PM

Southwest Chief

Great photo Peter. 

To me, the best looking cars were made during early to mid 1950s.

Here's my 53 Ford Victoria line up:

It is sad that Ford discountiued the Crown Victoria, they would still be making money with how many would be bought for Police department or Taxis.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:26 PM

Great photo Peter. 

To me, the best looking cars were made during early to mid 1950s.

Here's my 53 Ford Victoria line up:

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Posted by HO-Velo on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:08 PM

Matt,

Thanks for the reply, I can see why that Vic. is one of your favorites.  Darn, I missed out on those.  Saw a couple on eBay, but already sold.  Attached photo is my father's car, photo taken in front of the house we lived in before moving to the suburbs.  He doted on that car, gave it a loving bath just about every Saturday.  About a hundred yards or less from the front of that Ford was the Southern Pacific mainline, further beyond the Golden Gate Fields Horse racing track.

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Posted by chutton01 on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:24 AM

Southwest Chief
Metal Works 1953 Ford Victoria  It's one of their earlier models that had opening hoods.


I forgot that CMW used to offer models with opening hoods - I remember getting peaved at some of those models' hoods (was it the 1967 Galaxy? the 1978 Caprice?) not aligning right and just gluing the hoods shut.

So the basic layout cannot be changed - but can you expand it via a shelf or second level? Add a shelf, and maybe model an industrial area of LA/Orange counties? Maybe Bob Smaus has a few items lying around he could send you after he downsized his 1950s Downtown Los Angeles layout...

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:42 AM

HO-Velo

BTW, your Salmon colored automobile with the white top parked in front of the single car garage, what make and model is it?

regards,  Peter

That is a Classic Metal Works 1953 Ford Victoria  It's one of their earlier models that had opening hoods.

I have three, the Red (Salmon), a Dark Blue, and a Light Blue Grey.  Beautiful model and one of my favorites.  Too bad they don't make this particular model anymore.

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Posted by HO-Velo on Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:01 AM

Matt,  

I like your suburban scene.  In the mid to late 50s just about every outer suburban tract house had a TV antenna on the roof, all the better for us kids to see less snowy San Francisco/Oakland broadcasts of Mayor Art and Captain Satellite, but more importantly mom's Jack LaLanne show.  I remember father up on the roof cussing and adjusting the antenna while calling down to us, "is that better, how bout' that, is that better?"

Each Ticky Tacky house on the street had a city planted tree on the sidewalk blvd.  That tree was another source of irritation for dear ol' dad, he hated trimming it and when it's roots cracked the sidewalk he got so angry we could have fried eggs on his forehead.

BTW, your Salmon colored automobile with the white top parked in front of the single car garage, what make and model is it?

regards,  Peter

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Posted by John Busby on Saturday, November 9, 2013 5:05 AM

Hi Southwest Chief

All you need now is the orchardist's house with him sitting on the veranda with a gun loaded with salt pellets..

For when the local kids decide  super fresh oranges or strawberries would be nice and jump the fence.

OUCH!! I can still remember those in the back side SurpriseCrying

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 9, 2013 4:03 AM

ahh, I understand.

No mattter, the layout looks great, and the photos are very pleasing to the eye.

I like it a lot.

Rich

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:52 AM

I didn't.  My dad started the layout back in 1973.  I've been slowly upgrading the layout.  But the track plan is pretty much set and can't change much.  But I make do with truck mounted couplers.

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:44 PM

Great looking layout, but at the risk of appearing critical, which I am not trying to be, why did you choose to install such a tight curve instead of running the track around the perimeter of the layout?

Rich

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Posted by 304live on Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:17 PM

I agree, this section looks great

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Posted by hornblower on Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:05 PM

Matt,

I guess I missed your post update last month.  Your neighborhood looks great!  I especially like the look of the end-of-road barriers.  I'm sure you'll continue to develop detailing ideas as time goes on.  I wish I could get my plywood pacific looking more like your layout.  I keep getting various scenes partially completed only to get distracted by the adjacent bare plywood sections that suddenly look too bare next to the partially completed scene.  As long as I keep at it, I'll eventually fill in enough rough scenery that I'll finally be able to finish off a scene or two.  I didn't realize when I built my current 10' by 19' double deck layout how much time (and money) it would take to add the desired scenery.  

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Monday, October 14, 2013 11:46 AM

Ballast is the last step for this section.  I have to add another track bus connection so I haven't ballasted this spot yet.  The track isn't even glued down here.  Just a few track nails in the old cork.

And I really haven't had time...even with 2 years Embarrassed

A lot of my available layout time was spent on the G scale layout in the last 2 years.  But that layout is finally completed so now I can start again on the HO and maybe the O as well.

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Posted by chutton01 on Monday, October 14, 2013 10:34 AM

Are you holding off the ballasting of your mainline for some reason?  It just doesn't seem right in it's current state (and don't tell us you just haven't had time to get around to it - as you stated, it's been 2 years...)

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Posted by rclanger on Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:56 PM

N

icely done

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:33 PM

NEW POST

Been a while (actually almost exactly 2 years), but I figured it would be better to update this post rather then make a new one.

Seems like I do most of my layout work while there are baseball playoffs on the radio Wink

I finally got some leaves on the orange trees and you'll probably notice some other new details here and there:

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Posted by steamage on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:30 AM

Raised in Burbank, C A, I remember that there were no street lights on our street, only on the  four lane main streets.  The power poles were along the center of the block back yards so power lines could serve the back each house. We had a six foot concrete block wall fence in the back yard, no front yard fences.  We had large Maple trees on each side of our street, named Maple Street.   A small parkway for trees and grass of four feet between the sidewalk and curb. 

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:46 PM

chutton01

Hmm

1) Was that a NuComp above-ground pool in the last photo, or scratchbuilt?

Yes NuComp pool.

chutton01

2) Street lighting - would this involve free-standing or pole mounted (general question about SoCal suburbs of the 1950s)

I haven't looked much into the lighting yet, but will eventually.  I do have some street lights for the city section (yet to be installed), so they might work for the residential neighborhood as well.

chutton01

3) Electrical poles - did most SoCal surburbs bury their power/comm lines by this era?

There probably should be some electrical poles.  And wires going to each house.  But I haven't found any that I like and that look residential.  Might have to scratch build some.  However, by the mid to late 1950s, some electrical lines were buried in the newest of developments.

chutton01

4) One thing missing so far that would be found in a Northeastern Suburb of the time - chain link fencing (as soon as the last of the tract house development construction crew left, chain link started to go up) - would that be popular in a 1950s SoCal suburb?

Chain link was not very popular, at least from what I have researched thus far.  Mostly wooden or landscaping fences...at least in the more affluent neighborhoods.

The fence I have in those pictures is a test fence that I had on another part of the layout.  The real fence still has to be built and located.

chutton01

5) Oh yes, your layout will NEVER be realistic till you have some scale broken toys scattered in the backyards...

I do have a set of backyard "junk" that is still awaiting placement.

 

 

scoutII

Is that a kid swinging from the tree?

Yep. 

I think he is an old Weston figure?  Or maybe a Mini-Metals figure?  Not sure.  We've had him for years.  The tree, however, will eventually be replaced by a more realistic looking one since it is such a foreground area.  I'll keep the tire swing kid though.

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Posted by scoutII on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:04 AM

Looks GREAT! Is that a kid swinging from the tree?

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Posted by chutton01 on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:49 AM

Hmm

1) Was that a NuComp above-ground pool in the last photo, or scratchbuilt?

2) Street lighting - would this involve free-standing or pole mounted (general question about SoCal suburbs of the 1950s)

3) Electrical poles - did most SoCal surburbs bury their power/comm lines by this era?

4) One thing missing so far that would be found in a Northeastern Suburb of the time - chain link fencing (as soon as the last of the tract house development construction crew left, chain link started to go up) - would that be popular in a 1950s SoCal suburb?

5) Oh yes, your layout will NEVER be realistic till you have some scale broken toys scattered in the backyards...

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Posted by BIG JERR on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:31 AM

great work Matt; very nice ,reminds me of my nieghborhood...Jerry

 

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Monday, October 10, 2011 11:18 PM

Got some new photos showing more details have been added:

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:26 PM

Tested the orange trees closer together and yep it does look more like an orange grove.  Now I need more trees Wink

I also started on the strawberry patch.  I think I'll make the clumps a little smaller and also use dark/black soil in the strawberry field.

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Posted by scoutII on Thursday, August 25, 2011 6:10 PM

Hornblower - Right on the money!!

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Posted by hornblower on Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:37 PM

Matt,

One other common item I see missing is yard fencing.  Southern Californians have always preferred a little privacy in their back yards.  Thus, wood fences five to six feet high were and still are quite common around the back and sides of each lot.  Short fence sections typically connect the front end of each side fence to some point on the side of the house or garage, usually toward the front of the structure.  Gates are often included in these short fence sections.  Fences may or may not exist between the house and the detached garage.  The Walthers wood fence kit looks about right for such fencing.  Chain link was sometimes used but this was typically augmented by tall hedges to create a visual barrier.  Fences between adjacent front yards were less common.

Again, I hope this helps.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:32 PM

Wow, it's like you're reading my mind Hornblower.  Creepy Surprise

As time and money permit, I'd like to do pretty much everything you suggested.

 

There is an online clip (Youtube) of an instructional movie put out for Santa Fe employees (my guess is circa 1954).  It's California too.

Youtube Santa Fe Video

It's been a really useful resource in trying to replicate not only the trains, but the communities, vehicles, etc...contained in the movie.  It is full of that 1950s idealized world image.

Here's a still that I've been using as reference for basic landscaping:

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