QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45 CSsmith, I think it's a couple of pages back. Check out: http://www.palacecarco.com Once there, click on "Catalog". Very nice and realistic looking kits! Though I use IHC interior kits, I must admit that the Palace Car kits make them look crude in comparision.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474 I have been working on the interior for my Santa Fe business car "Topeka". This is the first brass (Coach Yard) car that I have built and installed an interior for, and it has only been a mild pain in the behind. I much prefer working from the top than having to work from the bottom. The glazing is coming along really well too. I will also be using the Precision Scale seats, and after a "test run", I think they are going to look great. I will post pics later. BTW, does anybody know who manufactures dining room tables and chairs in HO? I need these for the dining room in the car and haven't found a source yet. I am probably going to have to craft the table from styrene, but I would at least like to find some chairs.
QUOTE: Originally posted by psngrtrn QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474 I have been working on the interior for my Santa Fe business car "Topeka". This is the first brass (Coach Yard) car that I have built and installed an interior for, and it has only been a mild pain in the behind. I much prefer working from the top than having to work from the bottom. The glazing is coming along really well too. I will also be using the Precision Scale seats, and after a "test run", I think they are going to look great. I will post pics later. BTW, does anybody know who manufactures dining room tables and chairs in HO? I need these for the dining room in the car and haven't found a source yet. I am probably going to have to craft the table from styrene, but I would at least like to find some chairs. I recently completed my Coach Yard model of the Santa Fe and for the lounge section, I use Red Cap Lines sofa and Precision Scale single lounge seats and for the dining/meeting room I used Precision Scale single lounge seats and scratch built the table. I painted the sofa red and left the seats in the molded blue color but, painted the legs and part of the arm rest MM Aluminum. And Yes, Red Cap Line is still in business. I have purchased several sets of the Heywood Wakefield Sleepy Hollow coach and parlor seats and these make Walthers interiors look like S@$t Ch Ch.
QUOTE: Originally posted by psngrtrn The floor plan for the Atchison-ex Santa Fe is the same as the floor plan for the Budd Santa Fe/Topeka. All lightweight business cars built by Pullman had the same floor plans. All you need to do is to shorten the floor itself for the lounge/obs and dinning/business rooms. I model business/excursion trains of the BNSF and UP. I was planning on modeling the business/excursion trains of the ATSF,BN, SP and UP but, would require a large fleet and would be rather expensive as most of the cars would need to be brass. I just got my Overland Models ATSF 60 Full Dome-set me back 419.00 big ones but, well work the cost as all I have to add are figures and bottles/cups/glasses from Prieser Ch
QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474 QUOTE: Originally posted by psngrtrn The floor plan for the Atchison-ex Santa Fe is the same as the floor plan for the Budd Santa Fe/Topeka. All lightweight business cars built by Pullman had the same floor plans. All you need to do is to shorten the floor itself for the lounge/obs and dinning/business rooms. I model business/excursion trains of the BNSF and UP. I was planning on modeling the business/excursion trains of the ATSF,BN, SP and UP but, would require a large fleet and would be rather expensive as most of the cars would need to be brass. I just got my Overland Models ATSF 60 Full Dome-set me back 419.00 big ones but, well work the cost as all I have to add are figures and bottles/cups/glasses from Prieser Ch Thanks for the info. I sort of suspected the floor plans were the same by looking at the window configuration. I am buying an Overland Hi level lounge this week, and I can't wait to get the bugger. My ultimate plan is to have a fleet of Santa Fe pax equipment that I can draw cars from to make up several passenger trains from. This way I won't have to buy all those cars to maintain individual consists. Again, thanks![:)]
QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474 I am formerly enlisted. I did four active as a Cable Dawg, and then enlisted in the Texas ANG and cross-trained into combat weather. My wife is currently active duty, and is planning to retire at 20. After my wife got orders to the Academy I had to get out of the Guard, as much as I hated doing it. When we are done here she will have 12, so we will be over the hump!! What my eventual plan is, is to slowly but surely replace all my plastic with brass. I like the brass car sides, but they still lack the level of detail that I want. I am really looking forward to the Indian artwork. I am trying to figure out a way to incorporate that into my TSP hi levels. I have heard that during refitting of the hi level cars, that the Indian artwork is still under the new paint/deco.
Thanks Csmith! I thought this thread was lost. I'll continue posting new info as I come across it.
Thanks!
I had some extra time on my hands last night and manually went through dozens of pages to find it. I myself want to keep around as many of the passenger car modeling threads as possible.
simon1966. "What are you guys doing for wheels and trucks on the IHC models? The stock wheels and trucks have to be the worst made I have ever seen!"
The easiest solution for those 'cheap' IHC cars is their not-so-cheap metal passenger trucks ($25). They roll, add 'unsprung' weight, and get rid of those 'Talgo' mounted couplers (add body mount Kadee 40's).
Problem: is people not wanting $25 trucks for $8 car. (The car is just a painted shell). The trucks and couplers do all the work). - dg
robert sylvester wrote: I have IHC, Walthers, Rivorrosi, Balboa brass, and others all with interiors and painted. The IHC interiors, I would spray a base coat (they are removable), then hand paint with variety of colors. Believe it or not I have several Athearn passenger coaches with interiors. Those are fun, they are a combination of white metal chairs, toilets, etc with cardstock to set up partitions and separate the vestibule. One of my favorites is the RPO, with the cubby holes for mail, as well as bags for mail. Walthers had sold these kits for years going back to the late 50's and early 60's. They had interiors for every Athearn car on the market. These had individual seats and interiors that you would glue on a base, styrene or balsa wood. By the way no need to add weight to the car after putting in these interiors. I don't know if Walther's even produces or distributes these any more. Of course they could be used in other brands.My kitchens are painted stainless steel, there are cooks in the kitchen, waiters in the diner, then I cut seated plastic figures at the waiste (they fit better), and glue them to the seats. I also hand paint the figures.Can you see very thing in the car, no, but I know it's there, but for the most part, as cars slowly pass through a town on the layout, you can see the painted, colorful interior and folks enjoying the ride and eating a meal.Yard MasterWTRR
Some of the easiest, and in my opinion the best, interior kits on the market are from The Palace Car Company (and they have interiors for Athearn cars)....
http://www.palacecarco.com/
rghammill wrote:To psngrtrn: Wow! I'd never seen the Red Cap Line stuff http://www.redcapline.com Those blow away any other interior details I've seen anywhere. Adjustable seats with extending footrests. In HO. Randy
Red Cap Line's interior kits require more work but, they look excellent when assembled. I find however, Red Cap Line's stuff is better suited to cars where you will be able to actually see the stuff, Theater cars, domes and ATSF Hi-Level lounge cars come to mind
Ch
MP 53 on the BNSF Topeka Sub
Since the car will be disassembled for the interior detailing, you can add tinted glass to the steamlined Budd cars. It make a big difference in the way the car looks.
This can be done by using the tinted plastic inside the regular window glazing. The tricky portion of this installation is with the dome cars. The tinted glass can be shaped to the curves of the dome by cutting the proper size and inserting it in a short section of 1/2 inch plastic sprinker pipe. Use a hair blow dryer to apply some hot air and the tinted plastic will curl into the proper curve.
With a little practice, it works and looks great.
CAZEPHYR wrote: Since the car will be disassembled for the interior detailing, you can add tinted glass to the steamlined Budd cars. It make a big difference in the way the car looks. This can be done by using the tinted plastic inside the regular window glazing. The tricky portion of this installation is with the dome cars. The tinted glass can be shaped to the curves of the dome by cutting the proper size and inserting it in a short section of 1/2 inch plastic sprinker pipe. Use a hair blow dryer to apply some hot air and the tinted plastic will curl into the proper curve. With a little practice, it works and looks great.
If you're modeling the CAZypher, CBQ cars or ATSF 2816 series 48 seat chair cars or the Hi-Level cars, then yes the windows will be tinted but, otherwise the windows weren't tinted except for the window in the domes itself