Good Morning All,
28F this morning with lots of cloud cover. I'll have a regular and a blueberry donut please Zoe.
Robbie - good luck with school. Most of them seem to acknowledge people needing w..k/study but not so many really accomodate it.
Ken - Drag racing was what got me interested in racing in the first place. We had friends with a AA fuel dragster (Masters and Richter Special) and we'd go see them - get inthe pits, scrape rocks off the tires between runs - all the cool stuff a 12 year old could stand). At Raisin City in Fresno they'd run 4 fuel dragsters side by side for the finale at the big shows - now THAT was loud !
I'll drop in later, nice to see some new names and old familiar ones here last week. CUL, J.R.
Good morning.
I'm off to school this morning to see about some books, I think I need those to learn!! Also I will have to see about work study. This is my last week off, since school does start next week.
I will pop back in later today.
"Rust, whats not to love?"
Morning California.
Yawn, Flo coffee pleas and a cell phone!
Simon Thanks for dropping by the dinner. It was fun watching the lads run there new engines. I lean more toward the 50's engines, but I must say I like Crisp's Con Rail engine.
With all the talk about db, I wonder what db a Top Fuel Car puts out? I did not know what loud was till I next to one of them in the pits at fire up! You more feel them than hear them!
Colorado Good luck with your WWII theme. At one point I wanted to do a WWII air field, but there is not much in the way of WWII American Air Craft. Key air craft I was hoping to find are B-17's and P-38's. Was thinking a long the lines of a Army Air Corp training field.
Need to track down one of my soldering irons so I can get my E-7 back on the rails.
See you all later today and hope I have some good news to share on the job front!
Ken
I hate Rust
Good Morning Folks!
Cup of coffee please.
The new place looks great! Hope everyone has great day!
Steven
Good Morning ! from Tipton IN.
Bill Tidler Jr.
Near a cornfield in Indiana...
Veggie plate, please. Ordered a few (HO) items for the wife's B-day, the end of this month. Lets see...
1) W.S. Farmers Market to place on the decks of "Kathry's Feed & Seed".
2) W.S. Cougars, although only require one of them to place in the trailer park by "Bubble's shed". The rest can go somewhere in the mountains. Perhaps a scene with mama cougar protecting her cubs from a bear.
3) Bach. Park Assortment, to add stuff around town.
4) Several sections of Chooch Random Stone Wall to place between her fire station and the rocky mountain behind it.
Also picked up some non-MRRing items. RC stuff.
Rob
Well, (high water table round here so not that deep of a subject) I ran out of screws. Don't want to use nails in the benchwork framing so construction has ceased for now. Tomorrow I will find myself in the city so I'll buy another box. Got the thing all done except for the inside curved corner supports.I can still lay the OSB except for those, but the foam I want to be complete with no seams in those places. Not essential, just my preference.
Colorado- Sounds like a good plan. Please by all means put the track plan up here if you can. There are a few people who would be more than happy to offer any suggestions from their standpoint. Maybe they can add or something, thhat you may not have thought of. Don't worry, they will not be offended or degrading if you choose not to accept their ideas. THAT does not happen with the patrons of the diner. They just want YOU to be happy even if it's something they wouldn't necessarily want. I have a freelanced RR in the early stages set somewhere that just happens to be nowhere in particular. I call it Toddland, a place where I am king and things go as I want them. Great place though I haven't worked out the taxes yet. I use the Texas & Pacific in current times. Mainly because I was going to model that railroad in the very early '70's originally, but alas that was to restrictive for my wants. Hey, it's my RR right? Anyway, feel free to ask anything and do it however prototypical or non proto'd or any mix inbetween without fear of being chastized in here. Like i said, we just enjoy the hobby and think others should too regardless of their differences.
I figured I'd let him experience one of my long comments right off the bat.
PFTIN
EDIT: Rob--I don't order off the web except for the Bay, so I don't know of any places first hand. I think Jim does most his purchases by ordering as does Ray I think, so maybe they can offer some suggestions.
Todd
Central Illinoyz
In order to keep my position as Master and Supreme Ruler of the House, I don't argue with my wife.
I'm a small town boy. A product of two people from even smaller towns. I don’t talk on topic….. I just talk.
Good Evening All,
Busy day again. Got the chores out of the way and got after the rest of the spray foam and bracing for the train room. That's all done now and I'm ready to get some sheetrock and try my hand at fitting and taping again. We'll see if I've gotten any better at it.
This talk of stereos and music and hearing loss hits close to home for me as well. My actual hearing loss is more from my first two years as a pro racing mechanic when Mazda brought out the RX-7 and bridgeported motors were still legal for them. We'd be doing suspension adjustments in the pit lane during practice or qualifying and they'd drive by with all 115db's right at ear level. It actually hurt. We didn't wear earplugs or head phones because we needed to communicate with each other (this before all the crews wore radiohead sets). Playing out earlier we were loud but I didn't notice any hearing loss nor did I have an issue when I was in the Navy wearing headphones 12 hrs a day and 7 days a week often a high volume trying to pick a signal out of the static and distortion. After I finished my service I continued to play but mostly country or country/rock (whatever that is) in bar bands where we couldn't be that loud. I did keep the twin VT pa speakers in the apartment for stereo speakers but that's another story entirely. Long story short the years of unmuffled race motors did a lot more damage than loud music ever did. Catch y'all tomorrow, J.R.
Hey, all! I have to second (or fifth, maybe) what all said about hearing loss. Lots of big guns in the army and then a stint as a videographer for a bar band didn't do my ears any favors and although I'm not deaf by any means I often regret not wearing my earplugs more religiously when I should have.
Someone asked "...care to tell us more about your mrr plans, (scale? / era?/ that sort of thing)"
Sure. I'm just about to actually start planning. My rough ideas are:
- HO scale, standard gauge
- L-shaped shelf layout along two walls in my home office concentrating on switching
- Small free-lanced WV city by the Ohio River (inspired by Kenova)
-C&O along one wall, B&O along the other, interchange in the corner.
- Hopefully removable staging on each end
- WWII era
I've been learning about layout design, now it's time to put it to the test.
Sean
HO Scale CSX Modeler
Oh Rob- Been meaning to comment on your three points in your signature block. If people would realize just how true those statements are, maybe, just maybe there would be some sensible decisions made out east.
Huh? Not a word. Not a word. Missed the whole conversation.There was a train passing in the background. If there is more than one noise, doesn't have to be louder than the conversation but about the same to some point softer, conversation seems to be just additional noise and I can't distinguish well what someone says. I still hear pretty well at all volumes even real soft except at the level of a rifle shot. THAT is not much of a problem anywore. Hah! Even if it was, hearing loss at that level would save putting in ear plugs.
Seriously, hearing loss is all what Ray said........ I think.( alot of numbers there ya know). The volume is one reason I don't like to go to the movie house anymore. It's like they want to show off just how loud the sound will go. It's crystal clear but still irritatingly loud to me. Went to see David Allen Coe a couple years ago at some club in Springfield. Always wanted to see him. Won't go to see him again. He started out loud, but not too terribly loud. Then he got progressively louder throughout the show. Bart and I were getting ready to walk out when he quit as it got so loud our ears were actually hurting sharply and deep. There was no sense in that. I remember as a kid the louder the better, now let's keep it down's my feeling. If you like it loud that's fine, I've mellowed.
DerJohn and Ulrich- Thanks. No problem with the mining John.
Good Evening Diners!
Fergie, great to see you back in here! Are you still on the Hudson? Seems to me I recall that you are now skipper of your own ship but I can't remember. My wife says I can't remember anything and blames it on my age. What was that you said?
Nice day here today, only -10C , sunny and no wind. Plus it is dry so almost balmy.
Certainly appears to be a lot of audiophiles in the Diner. I do like good sound but I don't know much about it. I did work with an audiophile a few years ago who sent me to a good audiophile shop here when I bought my system a number of years ago. They did give me good advice and even let me try various amps and CD players at home. I had an Acoustic Research amp and CD player but when the CD drive died a couple of years ago I replaced it with an Arcam unit. One thing leads to another and I wound up buying an Arcam amp as well. I have a pair of Mirage M series speakers that are bi-wired with speaker cable that looks like dryer wire. It isn't a very powerful system but it does well with the classical music I listen to and I don't like it too loud so it is fine for me.
Well tomorrow is my last day off and then it is back to 'mill' . I wonder what the new year will bring with the new owners? I can't believe how lucky I've been in my working career as this is the second time a new owner has come along just before the company went under. It is 33 years this month in the same building. Maybe I'm in a rut? Anyway legally there isn't a mandatory retirement age so I will just keep going until they decide they've had enough.
See you tomorrow,
CN Charlie
Evenin' folks!
Zoe I'll have a hot roast beast sandwich, fries, and a trip to the salad bar tonight. Oh and large Dr. Pepper.
Ken, on a Mac at least the Ohm symbol is "option z" as in Ω. I have no idea about where or if it even exists on a PC. With "Pro Sound" you always turn on the amp last and turn off the amp first...... Prevents losing a pricey speaker if it happens to hit the cycle just right. It also helps keep your ears intact.....
BTW, I highly agree that what hurts with audio is distorted sound from cheap equipment or from driving the system too hard. However..... It is Db level that destroys the hearing. IIRC, 0 Db is no energy at all in a non existent wave. About 10Db is the threshold of normal hearing. Using that as a base point, 20Db has twice the energy in the wave. Every time the Db goes up 10 decibels it doubles the energy in the wave, so 30Db has twice the energy of 20Db and 4 times the energy of 10Db. By the time you get to 80Db the wave has 256 times as much energy as a 10Db wave. 90Db has twice as much as 80Db and so on. Some live concerts out there are pushing 140Db or higher at 20 foot away from the source. How close you are to the sound source increases the Db..... Oh, and doubling the Db makes it sound twice as loud. So if you Double an 50Db wave, it would be 100Db and would sound twice as loud, but would have 32 times the energy in it.....
I think the average push rotary mower with a working muffler averages around 81Db and they say at that level most people should limit mowing to 3 hours or less at a time....... No problem with that here! Age is also a factor. Young people will recover faster and have less permanent damage than old pharts like myself.... A scary statistic from about a dozen years ago.... 80% of all 8th. graders in the US already have a treatable hearing loss... I found that out after getting my first set of hearing aids. My audiologist told me that most violinist go deaf in their Left ear..... Almost all the retired music teachers I know are sporting ear pieces. Occupational hazard, I guess... So take care of those ears!
Ken, sure hope your phone gets back in service before they try to contact you about the job!!!
Later!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Hey Ken, just popped into the diner for the first time in years to say how much I enjoyed our chat at K-10. The boys has a blast running for about 2 1/2 hours before deciding it was time to go home. Looks like I have to reset Andrew's new AC6000 but other than that all seemed to run good. Crispy's Kato SD70MAC ran like a champ and once it had been run in a bit was silky smooth and real quiet. I just wish it did not have so many detail parts to add! Take care, good luck with the interview feedback tomorrow.
Since I am here, Happy New Year all you other diners!!
Simon Modelling CB&Q and Wabash See my slowly evolving layout on my picturetrail site http://www.picturetrail.com/simontrains and our videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispybake?feature=mhum
Evening all, just about to go and wake the family up (they're all taking naps...) before heading off to church for our monthly night of worship. Been a good day so far, went to church this mornign, then to Quiznos for lunch then over to a friend's house for about an hour before coming home and putting both girls and the wife to bed for a nap. I, however; have taken the time to relax and do a little digging around online for different stuff. Thinking about checking out thebay for anything interesting....
Welp Janie, I think I'll just take a slice of chocolate pie and a glass of milk please ma'am and I'm going to sit happily at the RC and see whom else comes in.
Cederstrand Audiophiles here: Only reason I don't have a super system, is the cost. LOVE great sound though. Interesting is how with quality systems, you are not aware of the volume because distortion is practically non existent. Rob
Audiophiles here: Only reason I don't have a super system, is the cost. LOVE great sound though. Interesting is how with quality systems, you are not aware of the volume because distortion is practically non existent.
Rob, you are 100% correct. The distortion is what causes the discomfort not the db. Well unless it is my wife!
Ray 600 watts a side is at 8 ohm, by the way where did you get the ohm symbol, never seen that on a keyboard before. Power caps in the Amps are huge, close to the sizes of soda can's. Owner manual tells you to shut down the Amps first and leave the preamp on till all of the power is drained out of the Amps. Even with the DQ 10's it takes around 15 seconds to lose power to the speakers.
I have a db meter and when I use the slow setting I stay around 90 db. While that sounds like a lot, on the fast setting it will swing from 60 to 110 db depending on the piece I am listing to. If I remember correctly it takes 1 hour of 85 + db to start to effect your hearing. About the only time I have a hard hearing is when my wife is talking, then she sounds like the teacher from Charlie Brown cartoons!
By the way, when I was into hard core in to listening, I played mainly classical and it is way more demanding on the system than rock. Last few years I have really toned it down as far as how often I even start up the stereo.
Todd My old Kustom full stack had a 250 watt head, when I played with a band I could drown out the whole band. It had 2 15 inch speakers and a horn. Sounded pretty darn good dirty or clean. One of the best amp's I had was a Crate, think it was all so a 30 watt amp. It would keep up with the band just fine and sounded great dirty! I think it had 2 8 inch speakers. I bought it after I found out when I was not at the house we practiced (bass player house) he was running his bass through it. It was to big to take home every night. I think the Peavley is a 10 watt amp. I will add now that I have been playing with the Less's tone and pick up controls it sound's better to me.
Train Front Tore down the PK 2000 E-7 today, and while not as hard as I thought it was going to be it was still a bite! It should not take 30 minutes to lube the needed parts! Ran it with out the PC / Decoder on straight DC with wires to the motor and it pretty quite again. I am going to hard wire the wires back up, I hate the plastic clips they use.
Meet up with Simon 1966 and his son's at K-10 Model trains. Had a good time chatting with Simon, it was all so good to get out of the house. One of the trains I enjoyed watching was a DCC with Sound Thomas the Tank Engine. Going to sound stupid, but kind of like to have one.
Phone is dead again! Thank You Charter! Said if they where not out by 5:00 PM it would be Monday. Gee that is just great with me hoping for the Job phone call! Just great! Charter suck's cabooses! It is now 4:54 PM and No Charter!
See you all Monday!
Coffee refill, please.
***Chris, best to get the plywood up asap so as not to give the frame work time to dryout and warp.
***Der, check our message thread.
Question: What online vendor has decent prices and is good about shipping orders out in a timely manner? Wifes B-day is approaching and I'd like to pick up a couple Woodland Scenics for her.
der5997
Hey guys,
DerJohn- is that a GWR or LMS engine? I can't tell.
We just had a friend stop by with his little Morkie. Tiny little thing and it was playing with my 100 lb plus yellow lab. Almost got sat on 3 times.
Saubraten for me. Thanks
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When in doubt. grab a hammer.
If it moves and isn't supposed to, get a hammer
If it doesn't move and is supposed to, get a hammer
If it's broken, get a hammer
If it can't be fixed with a hammer... DUCK TAPE!
Gooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon, bucket of coffee please, and thank-you.
I think I might've goofed. While going through a bunch of rolling stock which had been in storage for the past five years or so, I found a heavy-duty TTX flatcar. From some quick research, it looks like Walthers based it on a four-truck flat TTX got in '91 or '92. I weathered it a bit heavy when I got it back in '97, and had a load glued on way too thickly; so decided to just pull the truck assemblies off and dump it into the stripping soup.
I mean, there HAS to be suitable decals for such a car once it's been repainted...right??? Surely Microscale would have the correct set for something like this...right???
Or not.
Soooooooooooooooooooo, it looks like I'll be cobbling together something sorta close to "right" when I finally get THAT far on it.
DER JOHN: Yeah, I think you're right: the big cable is the "MU cable," and the N-sanely little ones you put on probably are air, signal, etc. Details West and Detail Associates calls 'em MU hoses, so THAT is where I got THAT nomenclature for them. In HO, they are enough of a pain to install, and DA and DW cast them as one piece!
Well, another "damfine job" was done by the Pispoor Construction Company yesterday in the RR room, thus completing the base frame for the future layout. Maybe next weekend I'll be able to start getting plywood purchased, cut to size, and installed. I'm almost scared to do so however. The frames, standing by themselves look "good." I've got a hunch though, a nice straight slab of plywood is going to reveal various alignment deficiencies in the braces. But, it shouldn't be anything a little un-screwing, adjusting, cursing, re-screwing, more cursing, un-screwing, further adjusting, cursing, re-screwing, cursing, un-screwing, adjusting further, cursing more, and screwing again shouldn't be able to fix!
Model railroading...a relaxing way to spend the day.
Hello to FERGIE! Greetings as well to our new Diner patrons!
Have a SAFE day everybody...
Chris
The Cedar cRapids Industrial Branch: Proudly Shipping Yesterday's CrunchBerries Tomorrow!
Fergmiester Greetings one and all! a Cup of Java please Yes it's been quite awhile since I stepped foot in here. Some familiar faces and big smiles that always have kept the room bright and cheery. Anyway I'm glad to see the place is alive and well All the best in 2011 Fergie
Greetings one and all!
a Cup of Java please
Yes it's been quite awhile since I stepped foot in here. Some familiar faces and big smiles that always have kept the room bright and cheery.
Anyway I'm glad to see the place is alive and well
All the best in 2011
Fergie
back Fergie !!!!!
We certainly missed your presence here...
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Good afternoon...
I'm actually getting some photog progress here...I'm going to be able to show something that is non fuzzy eventually!!
Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry
I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...
http://modeltrainswithmusic.blogspot.ca/
Strong coffee in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please.
Audiophiles here: Only reason I don't have a super system, is the cost. LOVE great sound though. Interesting is how with quality systems, you are not aware of the volume because distortion is practically non exsistent.
Have a great day, all.
A big New Year's to Joe27, Sean, Dave and riogrande - care to tell us more about your mrr plans, (scale? / era?/ that sort of thing) Here's hoping you enjoy it in the Diner (and Sean you can get coffee at virtually any temperature you want!) - there's no Topic per se, but the normal Forum netiquette is generally used - and questions are welcome, and I've learned a lot by asking, and just hanging in here! So give us your thoughts, tips, and so on, and we'll do our bit in finding answers, etc.if there's stuff with which we can help. Also, back UPTeen, and Fergie! Long time no see, Sir - but your name came up in the LHS on Friday (something about a tender being in IIRC) so I asked Mike to say hello for me
Chris:
DER JOHN: I saw the other day where you were installing MU hoses on N-sane scale diesels. You never fail to make my brain tie itself into knots!!! You should've been a neurosurgeon!
All this talk of New year meals reminds me of one that was posted some years ago by "Dave"...anyone remember which Dave he was? Here's his NYM. by way of memory jogger. Perhaps this will lure him back in! (Wrote that before Dave posted on Page 3 - not you from another life is it Dave?)
Kris found some lamb's kidney when we in the City on Friday - so last night we had a "Proper English Grill" except it was done in a frying pan and we didn't have the lamb chops to really do it up right! "English Style" Bangers; kidney; bacon; baked beans; fried egg (ssu) fried mashed potatoes; hot mustard and brown sauce - apart from a small piece of zucchini, not a veggie in sight- today's lunch was the steak and kidney stew for which she had bought the kidney in the first place - with a very drinkable Chilean red wine that was a Christmas present from our New Glasgow friends.
Ken:
Does anyone understand there wife's besides they are all wise right?
Rule #2 in my experience is "Don't EVER say 'I told you so' when it turns out that rule #1 is wrong!
Morning California, where's the Suffer Girls!
I've done a complete re-build on the legs of that smaller silo - the originals having warped with the Plastic Weld. Much straighter and more accurate. Have to throw some undercoat on it, and then a finishing spay with the zinc-look. Must Google around for a sign to make a decal from - that would finish this job off if I can get an even half convincing result with "Decal It". Way past Tea Time now, better get on with things...Darn it Chris, I look at a loco now and all I see is NO MU STANDS...I can't 'stand it'...Arhgg! .TTFN.
"There are always alternatives, Captain" - Spock.
WELCOME BACK FERGIE,
I have been asking everyone here if they had seen or heard from you. It's been almost a year.
Please fill us in on your exciting sojourns in the world of water.
You and some others have truly been missed.
Now if OJ Ed would just drop by, all would be right with the world.
Johnboy out......................................but happier knowing you are alive and well.
from Saskatchewan, in the Great White North..
We have met the enemy, and he is us............ (Pogo)
Fergie!!!
Good to see you sir! I thought you had gotten lost at sea!
Don't be such a stranger.
Flo, what ever Fergie wants, put it on my tab!
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If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Good morning. It's 40 and sunny. The wind is from the north at 6 mph with gusts to 10. Problem is it comes right across the lake and it feels really darn cold. The high will be 56 and it will be mostly sunny.Today I'm stripping some thick coats of spray paint from an outside braced gondola. I got off all I could with the alcohol bath. Now it's time to go over it a soft polishing wheel in the Dremel. I'll have to be careful though as the wheel can remove plastic just as easily as it removes paint.
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Todd: I know that there is a guitar kit that one can build a fibreglass guitar from...http://www.guitarkitsusa.com/?gclid=CNiG-dP8m6YCFce7KgodGT__pA
Good Morning! Dark Roast coffee and some eggs over easy on hash browns please. Don’t forget the salsa too thank you. Oh, I see you’ve put our favorite brands on the tables.
Colorado Mac and HOn30critter
I put up yet another part of the bench work frame yesterday between commercials and episodes of NCIS (favorite show) I'd seen too many times. I now just have the final straight section, (tad over 4ft X 18inches which I will do today, and the support for the inside curved corners, that I will build when I get the plywood to cover. You know, build the supports to match the surface. I really didn’t want to do it this way, but after I started it, running a train has not been possible. So, I have to complete the bench work of this the first half of the world, so I can complete the loop. Problem is, I have to deal with the duck under now, as opposed to later. I know, I know, but with the wants, needs and available room space, I (tightens lips and kinda bobs head tilting side to side) kinda don't have a choice.
Ken- Your wife’s logic? Sounds like she’s normal to me. I wouldn’t worry about her. She’s fine.
Barry- Like Ray said, probably will play well providing he used the proper glue . Don’t forget Leo Fender made a guitar out of a flat slab of I forget what type wood originally, to become one of the iconic guitars of all time. The Telecaster. There are a couple guitar manufacturers that make guitars out of plexiglass and isn’t Parker the one who has a fiberglass or something like neck?
Galaxy- I read all the posts. Well, I’ll admit if for some reason, like last month, things get so hectic that I don’t get in but once a week, the posts build up and the time available sorta forces me to skim, but I skim all posts, not just a few. My issue is I don’t often look at the who posted block AND occasionally I’ll get confused as to who said what. Usually I can tell but what the say but sometimes I think it’s someone it’s not. But yes most times I read all posts and in their entirety. (boy, I didn’t expect that to be spelled right being as how I pronounce it entire-a-tee)I hope that’s not Forum rude. I figure some things are still interesting and I may have something to add. I figured if it was meant to be just between two or three, they’d use the “conversations” thing.
BUT, however, I do NOT expect people to read all my babblings. Even if I address them. I realize I get a bit lengthy and there are more important things are in peoples lives for THAT! But, if you're bored and just killing time or are juuust not sleepy enough and need that little bit to kick you into la-la-land. TA-DA!!!! read away. That's what I'm here for. (actually people have responded to things that I admit I think, gee, they made it all the way to ther? I think even I would have gave up by then! )
Gee, my little 30w FenderCyber Deluxe gee-tar amp isn’t even worth mentioning. Still, plenty loud for me, and loud enough for what I use it for. Anything that needs larger would probably be run through a sound board and through sound system speakers anyway so they’d be supplying the volume, I’d be supplying the tone. You know, considering a 100w amp is really just twice as loud as a 10w practice amp, (which really is pleeenty loud for a bedroom or playing by one self) and I know just how loud the 30w amp is in a small area, and I recall a friend who had a 100w Marshall half stack back in the 80’s so I remember how loud that was in a garage, and I have had my fair share of open headers and straight pipes, (it’s the Harley’s that really hurt ) I just don’t see how you could set in the same room with that beast Ken. WOW!
Welp, heading to the basement. There’s some 1X4’s calling my name. I may have to go to town to get some OSB and some pink (or blue) 2” foam. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow. Depends.
Y’all have a Great Day now ya hear?!!!
howmus It's not fun to be deaf.... BTW, just to remind you. 1200w at8Ω is 2400w at4Ω is 4800w more or less at 2Ω....... All THAT said it isn't amps that cause deafness, it is decibels of sound hitting your ears.... I can run a monster sound system at a level That won't cause hearing problems, but most people would complain! Opps, I see somebody bringing the over. OK, I'll be quiet!
It's not fun to be deaf.... BTW, just to remind you. 1200w at8Ω is 2400w at4Ω is 4800w more or less at 2Ω....... All THAT said it isn't amps that cause deafness, it is decibels of sound hitting your ears.... I can run a monster sound system at a level That won't cause hearing problems, but most people would complain! Opps, I see somebody bringing the over. OK, I'll be quiet!
I hope to maintain what hearing I have as long as I have. When I was a teen, I used to listen to my rock-n-roll and even country and pop music with my headphones on and LOUD so I wouldn't disturb others. Then I would have it loud in the car by myself or with friends.
NOw, we rarely listen to the radio in the car. If we do, we listen at a very low level. DOctors or dentist's office low. Occasionally we will turn up the TV if I am cooking something in the next room kitchen or listening to TV news from the next room computer room. WE mute during commercials.
I think MOH has a bit of a hearing problem as MOH seems to put the TV louder than I do as a rule. MOH says I mumble a lot, and while I am soft spoken, I don't think MOH hears all I say, sometimes I feel like I have to shout to be heard.
Hearing and sight are two very important senses to take care of, I hope, Ray that you maintain enough hearing with your hearing aids to keep your dirver's license! TO loose both would be devastating to me!
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
Mornin' everyone!
Zoe, I'll wait til later to grab some breakfast... just a cup of dark roast coffee right now.
I woke up around 9:00 this morning and went down the hall to use the little room. Came back into the bedroom to find Manét had thrown up all over the bed..... I have THAT cleaned up and the sheets ready to go to the laundry today (may get some more done in the train room). He was giving me that "I don't feel good Daddy" look. Sorry if I spoiled your breakfast here....
Ken, I was assuming your amps are rated at 8Ω? THAT is still a massive amount of power for a small space. At 8Ω my front end system would have only been 1600w. At one time there were 3 different people doing pro sound here in Geneva. One of them is a major player on the East Coast, Greg Bennett, aka: Moondog Sound. Most of his gigs run 8,000w at 4Ω of amps. Way back when, Geneva used to have a weekend festival down at the lakefront called "The Whale Watch". All 3 of us had stages down there for the weekend. Moondog Sound did the "Atlantic Stage" where the Name Bands that were hired for the concerts were. They were most evening gigs. Another guy (From the College) had the Pacific Stage that was for daytime stuff involving local bands, and I had the Community Stage for Schools, Churches, Dance Groups, and Kid programs. If all of us had been running at the same time we would have been blowing more than 16,000 watts of power into peoples ears if we were wide open..... I live 2.5 miles from the area that was used for the festival. When the Pacific Stage cranked up at night, I could hear the groups quite clearly while sitting on my deck at the house......
My ears got damaged early in life as a farm boy driving tractors all day with any mufflers. During my career as a Music Teacher, I was often told by other faculty to "turn it down" in my classroom. I thought they just didn't like good music.... At the same time I couldn't help but notice how people (especially little kids) mumble these days.... I finally took a friends advise and had my hearing tested...... Then I turned it down big time. My point is that you may think it sounds great, but you are continuing to lose your hearing if you are playing anything with that much power in a small space. I have the phone ringers here at my house turned up as far as they go. Without my hearing aids I can be 2' away from a phone and not hear it ring..... It's not fun to be deaf.... BTW, just to remind you. 1200w at8Ω is 2400w at4Ω is 4800w more or less at 2Ω....... All THAT said it isn't amps that cause deafness, it is decibels of sound hitting your ears.... I can run a monster sound system at a level That won't cause hearing problems, but most people would complain! Opps, I see somebody bringing the over. OK, I'll be quiet!