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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, September 17, 2010 10:48 AM

Well Ray, soon the stores will be like your neighbors who never take their lights down.  Just leave the display up year round no one will really notice. And what about the Christmas Tree Shop or whatever it is?   J.R. (not yet  out the door, just idling at the counter while the staff finds the travel mug he misplaced again.) Serves me right too - I get top of the page for lounging around - now where's Ryan when you need a menu doing - anyone for pizza today?

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, September 17, 2010 11:11 AM

Ray: My sister told me that the stuff for Hallowe'en is out in the retail display stores by Valentines Day and Xmas day stuff is out at Easter. Most craft stores will have their Xmas craft stuff out by August.

Fun innit? 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, September 17, 2010 2:01 PM

GMTRacing

  Jeff - sounds like the float is sticking a bit on the old tractor. If you get a chance get the carb top off and see if there is "stuff" on the needle and seat and in the float chamber. Happens a lot when the things just sit.

The problem isn't with the old (around 15 years) Peerless tractor. We've had it for many years and I've not had any carb problems with it except for a broken choke cable. That made it flood sometimes but once the cable was replaced that stopped. No, the problem is with the newer (not even 2 years old) 17hp rider mower. It has one of those pain in the butt electronic carbs that has the self adjusting needle valve you can't do a darned thing with. Sometimes that thing makes me so mad I could spit. I wouldn't mind very much if it decided to sling a rod. I have a very hard hard time making the thing back up because of the design of the drive pedal. It's one of those things that you have to step down on the back part of the drive pedal to make it back up an dI can't step down on it. I have to hook the top of the pedal with my heel and pull it back. Darned thing must have been designed by a committee.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, September 17, 2010 3:50 PM

Yes indeed - the same commitee that designed the camel most likely. I was tongue in cheek with the old bit as I did read your post and did figure that the older tractor is the preferred weapon. The advice on the Mystery Oil still holds though and I'm afraid I don't know enough else about the "electronic " carb to offer any really useful advice though I'm sure someone here can. Be tempting to adjust it with a ball peen though after a couple of those episodes.  J.R.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, September 17, 2010 4:17 PM

Italian Roast coffee in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please.

Turns out now the pickup truck battery will no longer take a good charge. Hmmmm, wonder if a bad starter could have killed it or if it's just a coincidence??? Will go ahead and replace that first, but I'm pretty sure the starter is still dead.

Have a good day y'all.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, September 17, 2010 5:16 PM

Time to head on out. FWIW Rob, a bad battery can present as a bad starter (hard to start, clicking, solenoid kick-out, etc) and a load tester will usually point it out. I also have had bad batteries mess up the starter solenoid so there you go. All depends on how busy Mr. Murphy is today.   J.R.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, September 17, 2010 6:09 PM

Hello everyone ....

Any prime ribs this evening?

LSWrr

Garry, I would worry about the new bridges more than the old ones.  In my area there are 2 spiral stone RR bridges being hammered by 70 trains/day.  These were built form local stones and laid in a spiral pattern by mason’s pre civil war.  They still pass all the safety/load/stress tests.  None of the stones have required replacement.  The approach stones are 3’ thick marble pavers and workers hand dug the foundations all the way down to bedrock.  Now everybody is more concerned about workers hours and materials costs.

Lee ...... Feel free to post pix of them.  Also, there were a lot of very poorly made bridges in the 1800's. Ashtabula comes to mind.  .... Part of my RR career was budgeting. Like any business,  costs must be optimized. Much of my time was before deregulation and ICC was a pain back then. .... Here the highway bridges over water are old and falling apart. A big accident waiting to happen.

Where are the MIA's?  Seems quiet. I look in briefly earlier when I posted in WPF a photo of a GN passenger train..

 Cheers.

 

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, September 17, 2010 6:22 PM

 Evening folks, Flo guess I am having Chile Dog's and a baked potato and mug of Beer

  Jeffery Seems you are having your own Lawnmower wars. When I took back my new POS I asked wht there was no choke or throttle control's. Seems the EPA think we are to stupid to understand how they work. They where taken away so we don't run them to fast or with the choke on. Thanks EPA! Bang Head

  Todd Did not need to know you post with no pants on! There somethings we should keep to our self's! Whistling 

   Ray Thanks for the kind words about the dead DT 400. Do you have a DT 402? Reason I ask is while mine is in for repairs I was wondering if it was worth up grading?

   GMT Have not seen you at the dinner for some time now. Wanted to thank you for your advices in the Floor War's. Besides the staples, I all so used glue and screws. I don't think the Luna is going any where soon! Today I moved into the hall way and getting the old track strips up from the old carpet has been a pain!  I had for gotten there use to be a hallway closet when I bought the house. We turned the third bedroom into a dinning room. When we did that (while we where moving in) they had to take the bedroom and hall closet out. In the hallway they dry walled over the the metal track strip. It took 45 minutes to get it out with out damaging the drywall.

 Train Front, I am up and Rolling! Big Smile Hooked up the Bachmann E-Z and I am sure glad I did not sell it off! Changed a few address with Decoder Pro and I am up and running. I did sell off the booster I had for it, but don't sell it short. With only 1 amp power I am running 3 trains with around 80 cars and 5 engines. While I do miss the speed control the DT 400 has but other than that, I am fine with it.

 Time to build a Athearn Rio Grand Hopper and watch some NCIS on the computer.

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Posted by galaxy on Friday, September 17, 2010 6:59 PM

Evening guys!

Other half got called into work so I eat alone.

Meatloaf dinner please. The Lean Cuisine model, please.

 

howmus

Went to BJ's Wholesale yesterday to pick up a few items I needed.  BJ's is the only "Big Box" store THAT I will even walk into.  Walked into the main part of the store and the first display...........  Complete with flashing lights, plastic tress, and a Santa.......  Yep Christmas sales!!!  I stopped, looked around, saw a couple guys with their carts not far away in the main isle, and shout at the top of my lungs, "Holy $*%%, is it Halloween already!!!! Sixteenth of SEPTEMBER???????  The two guys laughed, shook their heads and said they agreed 100% with me.  Well, I now have crossed THAT store off my list of places I will shop.  If I can't get it somewhere else, I don't need it!  Oh, oh here comes the    OK, I'll be quiet...

Well your BJ's must be behind my Sams Club who already had Xmas stuff out already a month ago! And Halloween stuff started appearing in mid-August around here when back to school supplies were out! The idea is that they have all this seasonal stuff to unload and want to unload it at as near to regular prices as they can. They don't wnat a bunch of leftover xmas stuff to unload at fire sale prices after xmas. The earlier they can sell it at full price, the better their profit margins are. The retailers over-ordered for xmas, banking the economy would turn around the second half of this year. It hasn't so there may be all kinds of deals this year. On everything.

 I already got my other half a present...an Nscale GG1 in Tuscan Red that was desired. It is the only real present, maybe besides a few warm clothing items I will give this year. I will get a SHark steam mop as an early xmas present and that, besides maybe a few warm clothing items is all I will get this year. We just can't afford it this year, unless there pops up some super buys the Day aFter Thanksgiving that are REAL bargains on something we can really use! Like a new snow blower!

 

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Well Ray, soon the stores will be like your neighbors who never take their lights down.  Just leave the display up year round no one will really notice. And what about the Christmas Tree Shop or whatever it is?   

 

WEll GMT...quick lesson in that... Christmas Tree Shops started on Cape Cod in MA. as-you guessed it a Christmas merchandising store in Yarmouth MA. The people who bought it many years ago, the Bilezekians, found they could as well buy and sell closeouts and import other goods cheaply as well as sell Christmas Stuff year round. SO they opened several more stores on the Cape and offered lots of merchandise of other household uses...cheaply. MAny people went to the Cape just to shop at Christams Tree SHops and they also built a few stores off the Cape in MA and RI. It became "destination Shopping" for many tourists who went to the cape just to shop at one of the 8 stores on the Cape. Each store was architecturally different from the others, including the Sagamore Store which had a real Full  English Thatched Roof and a Windmill wheel. Enter  Bed Bath & Beyond, who a few years ago found out about it and the "destination shopping" and shall we say made an offer to buy the Christmas Tree SHops and its importing company, Nantucket Distributing, that couldn't be beat. B,B&B has expanded Christmas Tree Shops around the NE US as a larger chain selling all seasonal merchandise as well as continuing the importing and closeouts of household usefull goods sold cheaply. So while the title has Christmas in it, it is NOT just Chrismas Stuff, though it started out that way. People still will flock to the stores across the NE as "destination shopping" still, and others just find good things cheaply at their Neighborhood Christmas Tree Shops store. {I used to work there when I lived on the Cape, that's how I know}

 

Well, maybe we get to test the furnace tonight and see if it works right now after yesterday's repair job. It wasn;t that cold in the house today so it didn't need to run but tonight is supposed to be about 45* so amybe it will ahve to run to toasty up the house a bit. Not that I am by any means looking to burn nat gas for heat anytime soon!

It supposed to cool down all over the country a bit, so I hope everyone stays warm!

TTY'ALLL8r

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Posted by teen steam fan on Friday, September 17, 2010 8:04 PM

Evening guys, nothing new here. 

Just finished dinner with the family, so nothing for me thanks. My parents just got off of their soapboxes about healthcare and car repair. 


Oh, and before I forget, am I glad I live out in the country. For me, Halloween means harvesting, and I hate Halloween anyway. Don't ask me why, I just do. 

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Posted by der5997 on Friday, September 17, 2010 9:43 PM

Good evening Diners:  Did a bit of scratch building today.  I've been  wanting a dust collector to add visual interest to my mill/bakery complex.  I was playing around the other day with an old silica gel capsule from (probably) a vitamin bottle.  I've used one of these as a tank at my fish oil plant. It's the single mid-sized one in this shot from years ago. For the dust collector I needed a cone, and the cap of a test solution for a blood sugar meter provided one of about the same diameter as the gel thing. So, I had glued one to t'other and put in on a roof of the mill.  I noticed in the photo of the arches wall that it was still sitting there!  So, today I cut up some styrene sheet to make a frame and legs, and dug into my odd bits box for parts for a vent. The inlet duct is heat shrink tubing, and the exit pipe below the cone a bit of plastic rod that started life as a shoe brace in a new pair of shoes!  Here it is in place, with all its parts showing, and now, with a base coat of grey. The slight sheen on the top of the collector is wet paint - this is breaking news folks!Clown

Rob: I had been waiting to see how I'd do that collector before tackling  the feed bin project. Now, I think I could have a shot at that. So, please email me the photos again (I lost the originals when I lost my hard drive) The bottom cones may be a challenge, but perhaps stiff paper will do.  I do have some paper-thin styrene sheet, we'll see.

JR:

If you get a chance get the carb top off and see if there is "stuff" on the needle and seat and in the float chamber. Happens a lot when the things just sit.
....and if you lived where we do, you could add algae growth to the list of "long sitting outcomes". That's green algae growing in the bowl even when submersed in fuel. Yikes! Alien My routine on getting any of my small machines to fire up after the winter (or the snowblower after the summer) includes taking down and cleaning out the carb.

A rain day today - which is good, we need it. Meant I had to use the treadmill after dinner rather than get a walk. Not nearly as pleasant, or as effective - but there it is.

Looks like bed time again. Goodnight all, and God Bless. Prayers for all in need of healing, comfort, prosperity and peace.Angel

 

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Posted by Packer on Friday, September 17, 2010 10:53 PM

Hey guys

My father let me borrow the dremel from his job. I was able to get some work done on some loco frames. I'm definentaly gonna get my own.

The 6 Walthers PS2 I got off the bay showed up today. The BN, CNW, UP, and Continental are all in perfect shape. the Pillsbury and Cargill are okay, just the previous owner wanted to have a hatch rainbow (all 4 hatches different colored) and the Pillsbury car doesn't have the pillsbury logo plates. Anyone know anybody that can print a sticker or decal of one so I can add the plate to my car?

Ray, from before they don't really let me go 110 anywhere. Doesn't mean I haven't done it before though Mischief (running from an ex-GFs parents, I was 17 at the time; lol).

Christmas season comes earlier and earlier, eh? I don't really care for it coming early, I don't even get my stuff up until the second week in december and it's down my new years. Although christmas sales aren't always a bad thing since my local Wally-world occasionally has athearn trainsets. Of course it's mainly to get cars (they come with a random genesis fright car too) and a loco and caboose I could repaint and re-use. Track and controller not really sure on.

John, that building is coming along nicely

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Posted by CNCharlie on Friday, September 17, 2010 11:03 PM

Good Evening!

Haven't been in for a little while as I have been busy but not having fun. Mum had to go into the hospital via ambulance Sunday midnight, was discharged yesterday only to go back in today. She is very weak and has I believe more than a few problems which I guess is to be expected as she is 96. There really isn't much they can do for her but she can't manage at home even with Homecare assistance.

We have fall here with the leaves turning colour and temps in the mid '50s. Risk of frost tonight. I may do my N scale layout in a fall theme but that is a project for next year. I am leaning towards a version of Woodland Scenics Scenic Ridge but on a door.

Not much new on the RR front. I am slowly putting together a PK2 tank car kit that my FIL gave me as he just couldn't manage all those small grab irons,etc. At my pace it will likely take me a couple of weeks to put together as I don't work on it every night and then only for a half hour or so. I have been running trains a bit, a couple of express reefers, baggage and RPO pulled by a Spectrum Mountain. Next up is a passenger train with a Mehano Hudson. It is a version of a CN K5a they sold up here. It really only vaguely resembles the prototype but I like it anyway. Besides it is the loco that got me back into model RR.

Garry, you asked about Jerry and while he hasn't been in here for quite a while, he is posting regularly on a N scale forum I look into from time to time so I guess he is OK.  Maybe Chloe will have to change the menu to entice him back in or it could be like a lot of others who just stop coming by.

Not much else to report. It's usually been too late and I've been too tired to drop by.

CN Charlie

 

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Saturday, September 18, 2010 6:40 AM

Good Morning ! from Tipton IN.

 

 

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Posted by Robby P. on Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:21 AM

 Good morning.

 Well I'm off on a bus trip this morning to Pittsburgh.  The wife, her grandma, and her aunt are also going.   So no MRR for me.  I do have to start on some cars for the show.    I haven't even started, and its already the 18th!!   Next thing I know it will be Nov.

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Posted by TMarsh on Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:23 AM

Good Morning! Coffee please.

Today is the big Fall Festival day. The one Brenda has tried so hard to bring back after a five year absence. It is a beeeeeautiful morning and I hope the weather holds all day. So far it looks fabulous. I will be assisting her today with the things that need done. She is already uptown and, once again I’m running late. Hard to get moving as I’m running on just a few hours of sleep over the last three nights. I feel like Ulrich, though for far less reasons. I’m just a bit nervous for her. I want it to be a success so bad for her I can’t sleep. She has fought a few people tooth and nail right up until today on this thing and (jealousy from one Village Board member. Female. Flirter. No one likes her but some desperate guys. She thinks all men crave her…..You know the type. And a couple of her croanies.) Anyway, I just want it to go well.

Enough about me …

Robby- Don’t sweat the test. It’s actually a good thing. It will find out your needs prior to taking a course so you don’t get in above your head. Believe me from experience. College does not wait for you to “get it” and the instructor doesn’t really care if your struggling or not. Oh some do, but still not like high school. It’s up to YOU to get it in college. And if you don’t, oh well. Get some help on your own. "This is college son. Not High School. This is for people who want to be here.Not for those who have to be here"

Ken- Don’t worry, I was wearing my jammie pants. Sorry about the throttle. I’m feelin with you on the play time problem. Haven’t had time myself.

Ray- Though I cant say I don’t shop at the stores,(I’d have nowhere to shop) I feel the same way you do about the holiday stuff. Before you know it, there will be nothing but Christmas year round.

Oh well, only one card I suppose. That idea does have it’s good points.

Aaaaaaand Jeff has me fired up over the government stepping in on lawn and garden equipment and the emissions. Making my old Lawn-Boy 2 cycle mower parts obsolete and costing HUNDREDS! To buy another push mower. AND that will soon (hopefully not too soon) cost me a garden tractor because Kohler cast irons vintage 1977 are becoming partless as we speak. Ok, stepping back before I get both feet on the box.

I suppose, at some point, if the new tractor gets to the point it won’t work at all, Jeff will attempt to “fit” a more user friendly carb on it. Maybe not real soon but some day I’m willing to bet. But ONLY if he doesn’t get on the wampum warpath and beat the thing to pieces first.

CNCharlie- I feel with you on the Mother thing. I’mrunning into similar things with mine.

Rob- Yup, what J.R. said. Starter can take out the battery, and a battery can take out a starter. Other than the solenoid issue, mostly that starter takes out the battery. Pulls too hard don’t you know.

WELL. I had best get uptown. I’m kinda looking forward top see what kind of MODEL RAILROAD display they are going to set up in the community center. The guy in charge of that is an O scaler. Haven’t had a chance to talk to him about it at all as I’ve been so busy with Mom and her house.I haven’t been to Church in a while.(Preacher and his wife even stopped in at the restaurant to see if I was still around, they haven’t seen me in so long.)

I’m gone, Bye bye!

Y’all have a Great Day now ya hear?!!!

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:00 AM

 Mourning Madison IN!

  Flo, 3 Eggs Sunny Side Up, Hash Browns and a Hunk Of Ham and glass of Milk.

 Well I was up at 4:30 AM this mourning and starting to feel it. For about the last 3 weeks I have been sleeping on the couch in the family room. Seems my  has been keeping my wife a wake at night, and she keeps poking me so I didn't get any sleep either. Plus if I want to turn in before her, I don't have to try to sleep through Dancing with the Stars or the other silly butt shows she likes!

 Todd I am fine with Jammie's pants, it was the alternative that was disturbing to me! 

 Train Front Got the Rio Grand Hopper on the main now and is tracking just fine last night. This mourning and added weight and couples to the flatcar I got at the show. Only one left is the Inter Mountain Hopper, I am going to try some Athearn trucks on it, with the ones it came with being JUNK.

 After I overnight the DT 400, I am going to start adding run a rounds using the brass turnouts I bought at the show. Well, that or the hallway.

 See you all for lunch.

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Posted by galaxy on Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:36 AM

Morning all,

Slow quiet day today. DOn't have to do anything unless we want to.Stick out tongue

I overdid it on my back with the chores yesterday so a day of relaxing is what I need. I also pulled a muscle in my shoulder, doing of all things just folding laundry. Oops - Sign No chores to really do today, though there are a few "pull and clean behind" projects I may start on as they are bugging me and my other half.

ANd I didn't sleep well at all last night so maybe a few naps today are in order.

Next Sat is my B-day and my other half has a shift and a half to work that day Super Angry, so we won't be going out for Dinner exactly on my B-day. Can't yet decide where but we have decided pretty much taht roast duck of some kind sounds delicious as we haven't had any duck in a long while. WE are kinda tired of Prime Rib for special occasions. The FIL pays for the dinner out for B-days, but we have to pay for any Drinks  or Beer if any at all. There will be no Gift, as we don't celebrate B-days that way anymore. Dinner out is enough. WE may be able to go out Fri nite, if work doesn't do a call-in for the day.

Well, i'd better get on to the resting portion of my day!

Have a great day

TTY'ALLL8R

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:48 AM

Good Morning All,

   Back in the shop after breakfast with the CFO who has softball practice this morning. Trying to catchup some gov't w..k staining shelves for the house and putting more bits on the Focus. Need to change back to stock brake lines for state inspection as I need to jump through hoops to retitle my "salvage vehicle".  Need to remove the front air splitter as well as it would draw their ire and I hope they'll overlook the 2' ride height reduction. At least I don't have window tints as they are a real no no in these parts. The supercharger and exhaust both were approved and I did leave all the emissions intact so hopefully we can just concentrate on the quality of the actual repairs.

    60 and sunny today and we should have more of the same tomorrow when I tackle some of the HD stuff. Speaking of the orange type HD, they had their Christmas stuff up last month.

   Interesting history on the Christmas Shops G. Of course with the BB&B purchase all the cute stuff like unique architecture went out the window and the stores are now just another big box dedicated to the ultimate enrichment of China. No son please put away that soapbox - I don't like heights.

    Off to the shop, see you lunchish.   J.R.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:36 AM

Good morning. It's 79 and partly cloudy. The high will be a hot 98. Any chance of rain is slim to none and Slim just left town.

Went to one of the oil change places yesterday. I got a bit of a laugh while I was there. The guy down in the pit took the oil plug out and was standing off to the side so he wouldn't get hit by the oil. He might have been better off standing dead center. The oil left the drain hole at a sideways angle and soaked him from shirt collar to crotch. He could have complained but didn't. He went about his business and changed out the filter then put the drain plug back in place. The guy up top put in Castrol 10W40, about which I expressed some concern but he assured me that between the heat and the old engines wear it would be better for it. Well so far that seems to be holding true. I expected it to sound like a threshing machine but it actually sounded better than when I got there. I learned later that the oil, because of the fact that the engine doesn't have roller lifters, should be an SL type. Well I couldn't get an answer one way or the other about that so this morning I picked up a zinc additive to add to the oil. It also has the added benefit of quieting noisy lifters which is no bad thing. It seems to be working well. Within half a mile the engine was quieter, had more power and the lifter noise had quieted down.

On the layout front I'm considering my next angle of attack. I'm sitting here considering the amount of rewiring that has to be done and how much stuff has to be removed from the area in question and I'm dragging my hand down my face and wondering the heck I've gotten myself into now.

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:17 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe, short stack of blueberry pancakes for me this morning.  Oh yes, A cup of your finest dark roast coffee and leave the maple syrup for the pancakes.

Just got back from the County Landfill (only about 6 miles from my house) where I dropped off a truck load of "Hazardous Household Waste..."  They are now taking old TV's as well as any other electronic items for recycling.  I had 2 old TV's sitting around here waiting for today.  They are now waiting to be recycled along with an old stand alone computer HD, a pile of old wall warts in varying voltages, some other no longer needed computer add ons, and a few VCR's Tape players, etc.  They have always taken some computer equipment, but stopped taking monitors a couple of years ago.  NYS Law now requires recycling for a lot more electronic equipment so they expanded.  I would have had to pay $ previously to get get rid of much of it.  (No, I don't don't send toxic waste to the landfill in the trash.  Also got rid of a big pile of old Tube and CFL florescent lights, some used motor oil and a few other things.  I, for one am very much in favor of required recycling of these type of items. 

My son brought my truck over early this morning and helped me load with the junk.  Their car isn't quite done, but should be ready some time today, so his wife drove over and picked him up.

Jeffrey, bet your glad to have your own wheels again.  Hope the van gives you many years of good service!

Galaxy, there was an article in the local paper yesterday about the Hydrofracking debate.  The title is "Report: Toxic Chemicals found in PA Water Wells".  It tells of the water in a community water supply that has already had contamination from Methane gas is now contaminated with the chemicals used in hydrofracking.  All of this has happened after hydrofracking began....  (Probably unrelated, right..... Hmmmm.)  Cabot Oil and Gas has already been fined $240,000 and ordered to clean up the pollution (which is impossible....)  You are very right to be nervous about the process!  I am!  The problems may not show up until years after the hydrofracking is done.  The testing was done by an independent company that has been testing the communities water for years before this happened so it doesn't have anything to do with tin foil hats.......  Opps, the box is coming my way!

Best be on my way.  Reunion of the Fine and Practical Arts dept. from the Geneva Middle School this afternoon.  looks like we have a great day for it.  Currently 64°F with a high around 72°F this afternoon under beautiful sunny skies.

Later!

73

 

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:24 AM

howmus

Jeffrey, bet your glad to have your own wheels again.  Hope the van gives you many years of good service!

I do too! That's something that we'll have to see.

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Posted by teen steam fan on Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:31 PM

howmus

 

Galaxy, there was an article in the local paper yesterday about the Hydrofracking debate.  The title is "Report: Toxic Chemicals found in PA Water Wells".  It tells of the water in a community water supply that has already had contamination from Methane gas is now contaminated with the chemicals used in hydrofracking.  All of this has happened after hydrofracking began....  (Probably unrelated, right..... Hmmmm.)  Cabot Oil and Gas has already been fined $240,000 and ordered to clean up the pollution (which is impossible....)  You are very right to be nervous about the process!  I am!  The problems may not show up until years after the hydrofracking is done.  The testing was done by an independent company that has been testing the communities water for years before this happened so it doesn't 

Methane gas? Are they sure a well worker hasn't been eating burritos on the job? Dead

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:10 PM

Howdy!

Just about ready to head out to the party...  Janie, just another cup of coffee (dark roast) to keep me awake for the afternoon......

Quote from the past: "The horse is here to stay but the automobile is only a novelty, a fad.”

- President of Michigan Savings Bank, 1901

teen steam fan

 

Methane gas? Are they sure a well worker hasn't been eating burritos on the job? Dead

Ah...  Yes!  Methane.  That is basically what Natural Gas is. 

I will probably stop in this evening to see what everyone has been doing.  May even have a photo of a bunch of old, weary, retired teachers for all of you to use as a dart board.....

Later!

73

 

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:27 PM

 Afternoon Madison IN!

 Flo, I will take the Santa Fee Sub on wheat and toasted, extra peppers and vinegar and oil, a Tender of Onion rings and a Beer in a frosted Monon Mug.

 Jeffery How many miles on you Mopar Beast and how many miles between using a quart of oil? I think I PM you this before but I swear by Slick 50, Mobile One oil and Restore.

  When I pulled my 69 Charger R/T out of the scrap yard it had 125,000 miles on it. It's Big Block had what I called the death rattles. Took it over to Mid America Mopar for a buddy of mine to look at. Rich and I talked about the car and it was time for a fresh 440. Took her home, did a oil change with Mobile 1 and a quart of Slick 50 and start driving it. After 400 miles it had used a quart of oil, so I added a quart of Restore (Hot Rod had just did a article on it in a 360 Dodge Little Red Wagon) Oil use went from 400 miles a quart to 1100 miles, not bad. I all so saw a small power increase.

  Month later I drove it back by Rich's to visit, he came out and ask me "when did you drop in the new motor"? All the death rattles where gone (note, it was rocker and lifter racket, never any bearing knock) Told him what I did and he was disappointed because I was going to buy the fresh 440 from him! Big Smile Later I added a new chain and heads and that engines was still strong when I yanked it at 192,000 miles. Got a deal on a 426 I could not pass up.

 Today is a lazy day! Decide to heck with the floor and laying track. Did get the DT 400 sent to Digitrax and they should have it Monday. Hope it is a quick turn around.  Not that I mind the E-Z Command but I keep wanting to get up and walk to the yard and do some switching. Then I remember Bang Head no walk around with the E-Z.

 So to consul my self I went to K-10 Model Trains and bought a Custom Painted Blue Box SOO Line Covered Hopper and 3 sets of Athearn Trucks. Like I need any more of anything! Whistling This mourning for the heck of it I counted how many piece's of rolling stock I have on the layout.  I have 175 sitting on the rails and not sure what is under the bench and on the shelf's

 Speaking of Covered Hoppers, what are the hole's in the end's for Whistling

  Not sure about dinner yet, might do the BBQ.

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Posted by LSWrr on Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:36 PM

Afternoon all, I just returned from the Eire County Fairgrounds Train Show.  The show was a little better this year as the isle were wider, running modules, more vendors, and a train ride in the parking lot for the kids and those adults that brought small kids to give themselves an excuse to ride the train.  Admission was $4 with free parking.  It was an even mix of all scales this year.  I understand some of the nicer vendors went to the train show in Lodi, OH this weekend leaving mostly the “Yard Sale” vendors in Erie County (pun intended).   I had a nice chat with the vendor that sells plaster castings and he explained how he made several of his custom vehicles and original loads.

Distance: 75 Miles from Euclid

Directions: Get on SR-2 heading west, mash the throttle and go straight for 64 miles. At SR 250 slow down, turn north, mash the throttle and go straight to Strub road and turn Left then right on Columbus, Fairgrounds on right.

The haul:

PRR Tee shirt and a free coffee mug (All tee shirts were $10, sweat shirts were $15)

6 Proto 2000 NKP 50 foot auto boxcar kits (new in box) different road numbers

2 Proto 2000 NKP 50 foot flat car kits with loads (new in box)

2 alfalfa loads and 2 covered bulldozer loads

2 butter dishes of Harley Smith’s scrap load material

total spent $80

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:48 PM

Ah well water - great stuff - natures finest! The town next door has a section where the water is tainted with uranium and no nuke stuff for miles. Naturally occuring it is. That's the great thing about ground water - anything you put in comes back.

Jeff - none of the consumer oils have ZDDP (the actual zinc additive) anymore. The Feds put a stop to it as it can clog converters. 10 - 40 should be fine though I use 15-50 in the summer and 10-30 during the cold weather. We use additives here on the race motors as well as we had a run of camshaft lobes going bad when they removed the zinc and then swore they didn't - "See it stil meets all the federal specs". Bullfeathers.

   Lunchish turned into threeish as the CFO found and bought a mini pickup to drag her kayaks around with. The owner was a friends uncle that passed and the truck hadn't moved in a couple of years so we dragged it out of its garage and freed off the brakes but it just wouldn't fire and the clutch is stuck so now I'm waiting for the wrecker to show with it. Once i get it to start and run I'll unstick the clutch and go over the rest of it. Last mini pickup I dealt with was a Datsun (gives you an idea of the timeline. no?) This one is a Dodge Ram by Mitsubishi so it should be good.  We used to have one as part of special services on Okinawa and we would rent it and drive all over the northern part of the island which is all dirt paths and volcanic rock. It never stranded us and if this one is half as good she'll be fine. We are after all talking about the woman I love who broke the clutch gearbox and diff on her F-150 on consecutive weekends. Yee Haw . Probably married me 'cause I was the only one who'd fix it all.    J.R.

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:31 PM

I just stopped by for a Grape NeHi...

...and I brought some friends. Wink

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:48 PM

Coffee in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please.

***Bill, I like your friends.Devil

***Ken, sounds like what I did with my old Dodge Sportmans van, which took me to many a mountainous location for my art. Don't recall the mileage now, but it was well over 200,000 when I finally abandoned it in my parents driveway many years ago. Think it's still there collecting moss to this day...oops!Whistling (I aught to treat our pickup truck to that soon)

***Lee, nice haul!Thumbs Up

The first 2 Model Power street lights arrived today. They seem BIG for HO scale. Hope to install them tonight and be done with that side of the street.

Working on sealing porch tiles this evening. Doing 3 rows at a time makes for a slow process. It went last winter without any upheavals, but I do not feel like tempting fate again. 

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Posted by galaxy on Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:53 PM

howmus

Galaxy, there was an article in the local paper yesterday about the Hydrofracking debate.  The title is "Report: Toxic Chemicals found in PA Water Wells".  It tells of the water in a community water supply that has already had contamination from Methane gas is now contaminated with the chemicals used in hydrofracking.  All of this has happened after hydrofracking began....  (Probably unrelated, right..... Hmmmm.)  Cabot Oil and Gas has already been fined $240,000 and ordered to clean up the pollution (which is impossible....)  You are very right to be nervous about the process!  I am!  The problems may not show up until years after the hydrofracking is done.  The testing was done by an independent company that has been testing the communities water for years before this happened so it doesn't have anything to do with tin foil hats.......  Opps, the box is coming my way!

That is exactly what they have been reporting here as the fracking issue heats up. Notice I mentioned Cabot Oil and Gas and they show up in your article! Cabot Oil and Gas is the worst offender just across the border in PA, and has been fined more often than not, and has even been shut down a time or two if memory serves me. Easier to pay "cheap fines" and make millions of dollars than to fix problems. The area we are talking aobut across the border in PA IS rather "country-fied" with large areas of land available for drilling. Cabot has had to truck in water for the residents whose well they have been determined to contaminate by their drilling sites.

The chemicals in the fracking fluids are considered "proprietary" and thusly Haliburton {yes the same Haliburton that got Govt automatic no-bid contracts from the Bush gov't.} says it doesn't have to divulge the ingredients. Those of us who oppose fricken fracking think that is so that they can "claim" the chemicals were there all along individually or in combinations in the gorund and water. But where the water has been analyzed both before and after, there are compounds showing up that weren't there before fracking as you said in the article. It isn't just the "light your tap water on fire" issue with methane gas  in the water.

Also when the news stories air, they always show the discharge pipes shunting off effluence of filthy fluids into their "temporary ponds" made with only pond liners. Pond liners can leak easily and contaminate the environment around them, which as you said can mean all of about impossible to clean up.

There ARE, apparently nat gas well pockets around the area that pump out nat gas quite quietly and hum along just fine, but that is not the fracking method.

Those who are for fracking usually have something to gain {money is powerful isn't it?} from the drilling and don't care so much about the ramifications of Poluting it may cause. They can always take their money and sell out and move. Those who have wells around them that are "fine", hey more power to them. They can have the well in their backyards, but i don't want to hear one complaint or see one law suit filed if it goes awry! Whistling

The village of Endicott, NY here has a toxic underground plume leftover from IBM manufacturing and other dry cleaning chemicals from dry cleaners {PERK fluid} in the ground requiring most homes in the village to have remediation systems installed in the basements venting to the outside. SO this area is well aquainted with pollution problems BEFORE fracking even begins. WE have several other "brown fill" sites that have been cleaned up or need to be cleaned up in the area , ANd we learn more and more about the pitfalls of fracking as Cabot Oil and Gas continues to frack {like the movie title "All Fracked Up" he he} the surrounding communities where it drills.

AS much as I like my nat gas for heating my home, I have to say I am against THIS method of aquiring it, unless Co.s are held strictly accountable and are fully transparent!

Just my opinion and My 2 Cents, others will vary.

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