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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:01 AM

Thanks guys for welcoming me, even if I'm not a teen as of a few hours ago!Big Smile

cdog565, I would also recommend against using track with plastic roadbed for a layout. I liked using E-Z Track when all I had was a floor setup, because it's easy to put together, works smoothly, and keeps carpet junk out of the trains. But when I finally got a base for a layout (2" foam over OSB, because all the plywood at Menard's was warped), I found that the plastic roadbed made everything too noisy for me to withstand!Shock I switched to regular track (Atlas, but any good track works fine) on cork roadbed, and couldn't be happier with it.Big Smile When put down correctly, it works smoothly, and it's quiet!Big Smile The cork roadbed also sits lower than the E-Z Track, so it ends up being a little more realistic when finished.

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Posted by Flashwave on Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:37 PM

I don't know why I';m here. Somehthing said click here,  so I did. I'm eightteen, it counts right?

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Cdog. DONT USE PLASTIC BALLASTED TRACK IF YOU WANT TO LIVE!!!!! If you are planning to make a decent quality rr, plastic ballasted track is an option, but it is very hard to ballast and you wont like how it looks. I MADE THE MISTAKE OF DOING THIS AND I WILL FOREVER REGRET IT! Have a nice day!

What you have here is a slight misues of  gift. Plastic based track does one thing very well. You can;t kink it like you can a piece of flex track. Most especially in turns. The EZ trck is not commonly carried in the larger radius, but they do have 32 and higher. There's no reson you can;t toss EZ down on your layout and ballast over it. You do the same thing with cork anbd flex track. The only difference is that the EZ will sit slightly higher than a cork/flex will, so for realism, I wouldn't use it in a yard or for street running. (Mainline grades tend to sit higher, especially in modern era. For earlier era, probly before Transition, thewn what we would think of as a Branch Line grade would be the then standard mainline grade height.) Plus, the EZ can later be popped out of it's plastic base, and has railjoiners on it, so you ccan build up a flextrack to the end of it.

If you wanna go plastic base, the Kato track has a thinner plastic profile, However, I do not know if the railjoiners are exposed like Bachmann does.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:40 PM
Darth, technically it's more like model railroaders under 21. For the tediousness of gluing the grass etc, just get some of your favorite drink (for me anything from Mtn Dew to Monster to Coke to Venom to Dr. Pepper to Full Throttle and all points between) and some music cranking and just go to town. Believe it or not scenery work is how I relax. Joe, you'll say ow b/c your mind will be BLOWN by all the n scale possibilities. alright taylor! looking forward to seeing your new layout even if it is Horribly Oversized!

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Posted by modelbnsfer on Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:42 PM

Hey Everyone,

Sawyer, you will be the first if I can just find somewhere to build it, i'm thinking of building it on 4(3x2 feeet) foam sections that can go together and apart, kind like modules that I can set on the table to run and work on and then stick it in the closet when i'm done. Just a thought. Do you guys think this would work or just be a pain in the butt.

Taylor

P.S. Have a good weekend guys, i'm going camping. Big Smile

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Posted by Quinton Fallon on Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:53 PM

hi cdog 565 

yes it is possible to get great looking results with EZ track but it is impractal to glue balist to the track. the balest makes the track 2 times noisy. and if youse the rong glue it warps the plastic. it is not so bad if the balist between the rails is not glued but i came in to problemsthe balist getting caught in the turnouts, because theswich motor is in side the plastic caseing,  well lets just hope you dont have exstensive vocabulary if you are the turnout is not close to the edge. like the crule fate that awated my 080 steamer.

hey if it is worth it keep it ... ...if it is perfict its not yours... but still dont take it for granted
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Posted by Quinton Fallon on Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:58 PM

HI everyone

this is probly a dumb question but how do you get pictures from your computer to the posts you make

 

hey if it is worth it keep it ... ...if it is perfict its not yours... but still dont take it for granted
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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:52 PM
Welcome Morgan! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quinton, to post pictures, you will need to put them on a photo hosting site, such as Flickr or Photobucket. Then you can grab a url for the image and then put it in tags.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 11, 2010 8:00 AM

Sign - Welcome  to all our new members! It's good to see this thread finally becoming popular again! It was so quiet for most of the Spring...

I have nothing to post right now, but a friend is coming over to help rewire my lift bridge and reversing section to the staging yard and then run some trains, so a new video may be coming whenever I can find the time to edit and upload it!

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Posted by IVRW on Friday, June 11, 2010 8:28 AM
I have several things to say. 1) I have ordered the modurail kits and should be recieving them sometime soon, and 2) I have never seen so many zeros in my life! :) Also, I have been looking at track and found that Peco (or is it Shinora (is that how you spell it?)) has code 55 flextrack. Do you guys know of anybody that sells code 55 turnouts?

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Posted by cdog565 on Friday, June 11, 2010 9:24 AM

IVRW
I have several things to say. 1) I have ordered the modurail kits and should be recieving them sometime soon.

What are modurail kits? And do any ho scale locomotives (with DCC of course) have a automatic uncoupling thing?

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Posted by IVRW on Friday, June 11, 2010 11:24 AM
Cdog (is there a name to go with that? Im John, BTW), a Mod-U-Rail kit is a layout module kit. They come in modules of 3X3 and 1.5X3. They have all the scenery materials needed to build that module. Few people use them, but in the interest of time, dislike of benchwork, and to prevent prolonged lack of exposure to model railroading, I chose these. Look at woodlandscenics.com for more information.

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Posted by Flashwave on Friday, June 11, 2010 1:12 PM

Quinton Fallon
and if youse the rong glue it warps the plastic

Umm, I've always been planning to use watered down Elmers White stuff. What did you use?

Quinton Fallon
the balest makes the track 2 times noisy

Sadly that is my Achiles tendon, I know nothing about sound mechanics, I'll have to play with that and see.

Quinton Fallon
it is not so bad if the balist between the rails is not glued

 Oh, this is much worse. Get it in your loco's truck gearing, you won;t be happy. (also a problem with non-based track)

Quinton Fallon
but i came in to problemsthe balist getting caught in the turnouts, because theswich motor is in side the plastic caseing,

I suspect the problem is worse with the EZ switches, and this would be a good point to make at least a temoporary jump to an Atlas switch in the tracklaying if only becuse they offer more sizes, but you can get ballast in the switch points on these too, in which case you see engines learn to fly with no certain grace.

 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, June 11, 2010 6:50 PM
on the subject of ballast getting in loco's gearing, had that happen to my U23B once. amazing how one piece of ballast can seize up a set of gears; fortunately solved the problem and got her rolling again, and she's been doing fine for several years now.

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Posted by cdog565 on Friday, June 11, 2010 8:13 PM

IVRW
Cdog (is there a name to go with that? Im John, BTW), a Mod-U-Rail kit is a layout module kit. They come in modules of 3X3 and 1.5X3. They have all the scenery materials needed to build that module. Few people use them, but in the interest of time, dislike of benchwork, and to prevent prolonged lack of exposure to model railroading, I chose these. Look at woodlandscenics.com for more information.

Oh ok thank you for explaining that. My name is Chris.

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Posted by ns3010 on Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:36 PM

 John, I don't know of anyone that makes Code 55 in HO. And I THINK it's Shinohara (pretty sure, but too lazy to look it up...).

I'll be ordering a Walthers Airslide for the bakery and some gondolas for MOW service soon (like this week or next probably). I'll also get some cork, so the track gang can start work once I get another sheet of plywood and some foam.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:26 AM

Micro Engineering Makes Code 55 Flex in HO. No one makes turnouts, unless you choose to go the Central Valley route(kits). The smallest manufactured turnouts in HO are Code 70 by Shinohara and Micro Engineering.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:13 PM

Hey everyone, and welcome to all the newcomers!

Sorry I haven't been around, school is just insane. But we're in exams, one week left! Then I should be here a little more often. But no more promises, as it seems that I can't keep them...

 Here are a few things I've done in the past few weeks.

 A bit of simple LED lighting for a club member:

Difficult to see with flash, but it looked good!

Pulpwood anyone? I'll ship the mty's down via the WRS to Delery Pulpwood.

I made the load with some scrap branches from my neighbour's tree he cut down. I think it looks pretty darn good, took about 3 hours per car to do, and I did 5 of them!

Proto photo:


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:14 PM

Railfan Alex
Pulpwood anyone? I'll ship the mty's down via the WRS to Delery Pulpwood.

 

Purdy car! Very nice load too, is it live? I can see (the other) Alex having a lot of fun with that, almost as much as the hopper full of sand! Whistling But just so you know, Delery Pulpwood & Lumber receives pulpwood and ships woodchips. No empties. I really should change the name to Delery Wood Products.

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Note to self: Don't put a psuedo-dummy unit at the end of an intermodal train. I got 5817 back a few days ago, and I'm not ripping it apart to find an electrical problem until I have lights for it anyway. Once is enough. So I removed the drive shafts and am running it as a dummy. But as a DPU/helper unit, it totally fails. Heavy weight on the back of an extremely light intermodal train? STRINGLINE!

(Oh yes, I've figured this out before. But I keep making the same mistake, and this was a particularly impressive incident. Well car off the rails, Impack set off the tracks and pulled apart, trailers everywhere, and the rest of the train plus the offending GP7 rolling downgrade out of the photo. That's the head end you see.)


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Posted by IVRW on Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:35 PM
Well, Last Friday, I got some flextrack, code 70, and some turnouts, same code, and a few other necessities, such as a bus wire. I got some pics and Ill see if I can upload them later today.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:44 PM

That's a wicked hot pulpwood car. I need a few of those for the layout. Though industries continue to be switched around I'm thinking of turning the team track into a trans-load for a paper mill, thus outbound boxcars and inbound pulpwood cars!

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Posted by Quinton Fallon on Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:01 PM

  im sorry if for the misswording of my post.

elmers white glue is fine so is most of the products on the market i just said that so you wouldent go to town and buy some off the wall brand, just be carful what you get and read the fine print see egsactly what it is good for bockman changes the composition of the material often that is anouther thing to be worried about also you will come to fing that you should use elmers glue right out of the bottle for the best resulsts

also on aouther note 

yes unglooed balist between the rails is not smart but in 2 years of useing EZ track i hve never got a jamed loco from loose balist if this is luck i dont know but youseing n scale  atlas deasle with the drive geares are located were it is almost fully coverd i gave never ran in to this problem.

 now involving i have seen a tempory gap with a atlas swiches they are much more work than the seem its okay if you are only doing a fey but not to many, it is much more understand a ble in a yard or in a stageing but getting the road bead right and to blend in right is worth the efort if done corectly  but a eyesoree to a layout if you mess up.

hey if it is worth it keep it ... ...if it is perfict its not yours... but still dont take it for granted
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Posted by Railfan Alex on Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:10 PM
Yep the pulpwood is a "live" load. Certainly don't want to pull a Tyler with a string of those cars. But then again string-lining with a bunch of sand loads would be pretty messy...

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:10 PM

 Trio of Pan Am Units all with ditch lights and the PAR unit got a full repaint.

 Also did some virtual railroading...


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Posted by modelbnsfer on Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:55 PM

Hey eeveryone,

Nothing much just got back from camping. Hope everyone had a good weekend.

Alex those are some awesome pulp cars. I love the wood chips that you put at the bottom of it.

Taylor 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2010 9:58 AM

Railfan Alex
Yep the pulpwood is a "live" load. Certainly don't want to pull a Tyler with a string of those cars. But then again string-lining with a bunch of sand loads would be pretty messy...

 

Luckily, loaded sand cars are really heavy. If there's enough weight behind them to stringline them, then you're either going to need seven engines on the head end (maybe less on other railroads, but the WRS only runs GP7s, GP18s, and GP15-1s) or four head-end units plus rear end and/or mid-train helpers, which would solve the problem anyway as long as the helper engineer knew what they were doing.

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Here's that new video I promised, chasing work extra GRWJ westbound over the White River Southern Railroad. We'll meet intermodal hotshot WJNA and manifest WJCD along our route. The work train equipment is leased from the Merrimack & Souhegan Railroad, the WRS' southern partner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEqCO_vkaBY

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Posted by IVRW on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:45 AM
Today is the day the layout kits arrive, so Ill keep you all posted on that. Anyway, after building my desk a while ago, I thought the hutch was a bit bare. I gathered me some flextrack, opened the boxes of the stuff I brought*, and made me a little "decoration":

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I also got artsy

Yeah, so thats that. Anyway, Florida doesnt have proper basementage. Thus, I am stuck with the happier alternative, sleeping in the layout room (the bed and desk were afterthoughts). So here is a tour my room and it's relation to the layout.

Looking in from the door

The layout (3 3X3s)

Looking from the layout (panorama):

And last, looking from the side of the bed:

Happy Model Railroading.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:40 PM

 Very nice work everyone!

Today was the last day of school! Hard to believe that HS is already half over...
Survived exams. And actually did a lot better than I was expecting

And, tomorrow's my birthday! So I'll have a nice quiet 1st day of summer/bday.

I have nothing to do for the next week and a half (except I'm going for my 6 hours for my permit next week. And yay for the rape stickers [red Kyleigh's Law decals {rediculously stupid}] that I'm gonna need for the next two years...), so if I can get the second sheet of plywood, then benchwork will be done before I have to go down the shore.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:05 PM
Hi Five for having the same birthday!

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:13 PM
Ahahahah no way! Must be a popular day- you, me, my cousin, and this kid from my lax team are all tomorrow. Weird...

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Posted by IVRW on Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:06 AM
Yay! Joe! So how are things progressing on your benchwork. I bet a) you'll get supplies for your birthday (I becha that we're the only kids in america that ask for 47 Board feet of timber for their birthdays, and then turn around and ask for collector brass items for Xmas) and time to use those supplies over summer. Please keep us posted.

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