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Track problem driving me crazy

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Track problem driving me crazy
Posted by dave hinkley on Saturday, June 5, 2010 3:53 PM

I have a small 28" x 61" N scale layout for my credenza in my office at work.  Originally I had a KC Southern Belle passenger train on the track and it worked fine.  I switched it out for a Mikado 2-8-2 and some freight cars.  The Mikado handles all the corners fine except one where it has a propensity to climb the outside rail and then slip back down as it comes out of the curve. I cannot figure out what it is doing.

Running my fingernail over the curve doesn't seem to show any issues with joiners I have fiddled with the arc of the curves.  Nothing seems to make much of any difference. It is especially puzzling since the first train had no issues. I thought it might be the configuration of the loco but that doesn't explain why it works fine on the other curves. Any hints?

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Posted by retsignalmtr on Saturday, June 5, 2010 4:01 PM

Try shimming the outside rail where the wheel climbs over the rail. There may be a silght dip that you cannot see or feel there. Is that 28" X 61" the footprint of the track or the size of the overall layout?

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, June 5, 2010 4:13 PM

 Lay a level along the length of the track in that area. I bet you'll see that the outside rail is lower than the inside rail in spots.

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Posted by widetrack on Saturday, June 5, 2010 4:33 PM

Dave

Both of the above are good things to check you may also want to check and make sure the wheels on your engine are gauged correctly.  I had a similar problem with a pacific om my now defunct (in the process of taking down) layout.  Neil  

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, June 5, 2010 5:11 PM

The one corners track is out of gauge!

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Posted by shayfan84325 on Saturday, June 5, 2010 6:49 PM

rrebell

The one corners track is out of gauge!

This is a REALLY good place to start when you have a mysterious track problem.  Easy to check, usually easy to fix.

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Posted by fireman216 on Saturday, June 5, 2010 7:42 PM

 Is this sectional track or flex track? I ask this because I helped a friend of mine build a small layout and he was using sectional track that was sold loose in a box. We had the same symptoms you describe. We had found that every stinkin piece of curved sectional had a slight dip right at the end near the joiner. It was very hard to spot until we layed a straight edge across the track as Jeff suggests. I convinced him to switch to flex track. It must have been a manufacturing defect. It very well may have been why they were all loose in the box and not packaged. Just a thought.

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Posted by dave hinkley on Saturday, June 5, 2010 8:10 PM

Overall Layout was the dimensions I gave.

 

 

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Posted by Jacktal on Saturday, June 5, 2010 8:25 PM

Could it be that the radius of this particular curve be a little too tight for this particular loco.I have a Mountain that derailed on a curve that my Challenger could deal with.Just a guess.....

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, June 5, 2010 8:36 PM

  I am just PO you have a Train Layout out in your offices! I cannot have train pictures in mine?

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Posted by dave hinkley on Saturday, June 5, 2010 10:49 PM

 

Simple, the boss is a golfer.  One day I went to him and said 'you know  how  some people like golf and have a putter and mini green and practice puting in their office?  He said yes.  I said well I like trains.  He told me not to get too carried away. 

If I could figure out how to attach a picture in this forum I show it off. 

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Sunday, June 6, 2010 12:06 AM

 I shared an office with a guy and he was into trains also. We didn't ask as we knew our boss would be cool with it as the company policy was your office was your domain to do with as you pleased with in reason so we set up a switching layout on the large widow ledge with Kato uni-track and the thing wasn't up longer then a week and we had people in our office every day wanting to play with the trains. We used to chase em out that is except the big boss

I would run your old locomotive on the track and see if it does the same thing if not go back to square one 'check the track to see if in gage etc. then check the locomotive wheels etc. dollar to donuts it's something simple.

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Sunday, June 6, 2010 12:34 AM

Confused

Hi Dave,

I would like to know what happens with the suspect loco when you run it in the other direction.   Does it still climb in the same place??

Is there a turnout close to that corner?

Johnboy out.......................

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Posted by dave hinkley on Monday, June 7, 2010 8:35 PM

I found the exact point where it derails it is at.  I am replacing the two sections of track involved and see what happens.

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 7, 2010 9:18 PM

 Try to find out what's causing it in the mean time. Sometimes replacing the section of track results in the same problem.  At least you have it narrowed down.

Springfield PA

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