HaroldAI have followed this post and it seems several people have had similar incidents. In my book it's called 'customer service' which is where I worked for a number of years before I retired. Of course the right thing was done by not dealing with this person. From a customer service standpoint, she was wrong and has created ill feelings by her actions. On top of that, if the original poster had listed her name and location, it would stick with some people and she would lose additional business. It's the same when one of us has a bad experience with an on-line dealer - we tell our stories here for all the world to read and the word spreads. It also works when we have positive experiences. And believe me, there are on-line stores that I will not use and others that I will use simply based on someone's experience. We can say what we want about this, but she lost a customer and could have lost a whole lot more if it would have been reported.
I have followed this post and it seems several people have had similar incidents. In my book it's called 'customer service' which is where I worked for a number of years before I retired. Of course the right thing was done by not dealing with this person. From a customer service standpoint, she was wrong and has created ill feelings by her actions. On top of that, if the original poster had listed her name and location, it would stick with some people and she would lose additional business. It's the same when one of us has a bad experience with an on-line dealer - we tell our stories here for all the world to read and the word spreads. It also works when we have positive experiences. And believe me, there are on-line stores that I will not use and others that I will use simply based on someone's experience.
We can say what we want about this, but she lost a customer and could have lost a whole lot more if it would have been reported.
I never did get the woman's name,and if her sign had a location on it, it was obscured by all the packing boxes she had sitting out on her table, but I did report the problems with her to the organization that ran that show, and from what I was told by the guy from that group, there were a number of concerns and complaints about that woman, and it is unlikely that she will ever get a booth with that group again.
As I mentioned in one of my posts, the sign on her booth read "Scotsman Trains", but there are a few hobby shops in other states that have the same name, but are not affiliated with the Scotsman Trains here in Connecticut.
One thought that the guy I talked to from the group that ran that show is that it would be nice if dealers could be limited to only NMRA and/or TCA members only, due to the standards that members of both groups (My wife and I belong to both) are held to means that such incidents are less likely ever occur.
I will see that guy at the next NETCA meet in Marlboro, MA next month, and I will ask him if he found anything else out about that woman and what the decision is regarding if she will be allowed to sell at future meets run by Classic Shows, LLC.
So many scales, so many trains, so little time.....
There's never time to do it right, but always time to do it over.....
I had something very similar happen to me when I bought my 8 3/4" gauge ride on train.
A man out near Essex, Connecticut was selling a ride on train that he bought his children a year prior and that they were tired of, so he wanted to be rid of it. There was a 4-4-0 outline dummy engine, a tender with a 3.5 HP gas motor, a 6.5' long gondola, and a caboose, and about 1/4 mile of track, including a right hand turnout, a left hand turnout, and a wye, most of the track was in poor shape, and all three turnouts need a lot of work, as the welds had come apart.
The price that he was asking was $3,000.00. My wife and I came out, and looked the rolling stock over, and we agreed to the price and took out a small loan from the bank that we use for the set. Due to the amount of track, it took us three trips to get everything to our house. Well, on the third and final trip, the guy decided that he wanted an additional $500.00.
He told us that since he works for the Connecticut State Patrol, that it would be unwise for us to refuse to pay, and that he had an offer from someone in NY state for the set for $3500, that we needed to cough up the difference, otherwise he was going to sell the engine and tender (which was still at his place), and make us ship the track at our expense for him.
When he started listing off information to me about me and my wife that he got from the state of Connecticut, my wife and I got real uneasy about it, and my wife ended up giving him a check for $500.
I got the guy's badge # and talked to the Connecticut State Patrol about how one of their men pulled a price hike on us. The response that I got was that even though what happened was wrong, there was nothing that would be done about it, and I should just leave well enough alone.
On the other hand, there used to be a really great model train store in Charleston, SC; called Just Trains.
My wife and I were good friends with the family that ran the store, and we would help him out at train shows and on occasion help him run the store and work on the display layout. (His wife did not like us helping at a train show in Columbia, SC once, because when we gave him a break at running his booth, we ended up spending more money on trains that he wanted than what he made at the show.)
After some sales, he would occasionally miss kits that still had sale stickers on them. If you happened to bring something to the counter that had such a sticker on it, despite the sale being long over, he would still honor it, which with us, always meant more sales.
I would spend most Friday afternoons at his store, and we would chit-chat about trains, or work on his layout, and help with keeping the place clean.(My wife and I were "honorary employees" there, and her cat Chessie would sometimes "work" there to keep mice away, and was the shop mascot.)
If my wife mentioned that she wanted a particular item to me, and he heard her, he would order it, and often discount it, due to our frequent shopper status. It is rather hard to get the local hobby shop to order anything at all. The last time I ordered something, the order was sold to another customer without even giving me or my wife a call.
Long story short: For every dirtball dealer and crooked shop-keep, there are many, many other sellers that are willing to go the extra mile for their customers, and are major players in why model railroading is the World's Greatest Hobby.
You don't have to go to a train show to get similar treatment. My boss and I were doing some work near a large and somewhat famous model train store in the Los Angeles area. As my boss is also into trains, he suggested we stop in and look around. I only had $20 on me so I wasn't expecting to buy anything. I was surprised to find a large collection of used HO scale items displayed on folding tables just inside the store entrance. There were quite a few assembled Blue Box kits, none priced above $3.00. Individual price stickers were placed on every single car. I found half a dozen I liked and headed for the check-out counter. The cashier was about to ring up the sale but then stopped, looked at the price tags again, stated the prices were all wrong and then doubled the price of every single car. I told him to forget it, and as I walked away and out the door, I could hear him cussing up a storm. Not only did he not make a $40 sale, he didn't even make a $20 sale. More importantly, he guaranteed that I would make all of my future train purchases elsewhere!
Hornblower
wjstixI can't see any problem with taking an engine over to a public test track to see if you can get it to run. As the old saying goes "you pays your money and you takes your chances". In this case the seller was the one who thru his ignorance sold something lower than it should have been. Too bad. Once money changes hands, the deal's done.
That's how I see it--once the money trades hands, it's not your problem.Nobody forced him to put a low price on the item. With that said, if he's upset about selling it that low...you *could* always offer to sell it back to him, at a slight profit of course :p Also, I have very little sympathy for sellers who don't know what their goods are worth...and then complain about being "ripped off" when they price things too low. I'm no expert, but I somehow have a rough idea what things are worth. They need to either learn what they're selling, or deal with it.
~G4
19 Years old, modeling the Cowlitz, Chehalis, and Cascade Railroad of Western Washington in 1927 in 6X6 feet.
Well, I got a call back from one of the guys in charge of that particular show. He said that up until that show, he had never even heard of that woman, and we both agreed that she did not know anything about model trains at all.
He said that he would try to talk to her as soon as possible, and let her know that her way of doing business just is not right, and that if she refuses to comply to standards that the TCA uses for selling items, then she will not be allowed back again.
Medina1128andrechapelon While setting up a show a seller dropped a wad of cash by his table. I picked it up right away before some one else did and told the person he may have lost some money. He checked his box that the money fell from and confirmed what had happened. I handed him the cash (all of it) he grabbed it and put it back in the cash box. Not even a thank you or how about a 10% discount on any thing you like. Next time it happens I will have more money to spend on trains.Hey, it could have been worse. He could have bought everything the guy brought with him (with his own money). Thinking he sold everything, he packed up and left early. JUST KIDDING!!
andrechapelon While setting up a show a seller dropped a wad of cash by his table. I picked it up right away before some one else did and told the person he may have lost some money. He checked his box that the money fell from and confirmed what had happened. I handed him the cash (all of it) he grabbed it and put it back in the cash box. Not even a thank you or how about a 10% discount on any thing you like. Next time it happens I will have more money to spend on trains.
While setting up a show a seller dropped a wad of cash by his table. I picked it up right away before some one else did and told the person he may have lost some money. He checked his box that the money fell from and confirmed what had happened. I handed him the cash (all of it) he grabbed it and put it back in the cash box. Not even a thank you or how about a 10% discount on any thing you like. Next time it happens I will have more money to spend on trains.
Hey, it could have been worse. He could have bought everything the guy brought with him (with his own money). Thinking he sold everything, he packed up and left early. JUST KIDDING!!
That's amusing!
You absolutely did the right thing and the only way to get through to those type of people is not to buy from them. I can't say weather or not reporting her to the promoter would have gotten you any where. The only thing that I seen close to that was a young kid was looking at an engine a dealer had on the table which was honestly a piece of junk. When he picked it up the shell came loos from the chassis and the chassis fell back into the box. The guy got all in the kids face and said you broke it you pay for it. Before the kid could mutter a single word two or three guys jumped in and said what are you trying to pull. the one guy said I just picked that piece of ______ up two minutes a go and it did the same thing to me. From there lets just say the crowd got a little hostile towards the guy. Unfortunately you find peple like that no matter where u go. It's ashame they ruin it for others.
Railroader_Sailor_SSN-760I did not find out her name, but the banner on her booth said Scotsman's Trains.I found the website for the group that runs the shows held at that location, and am going to file a report with them as soon as I get a reply back, as their "contact us" page only allows a 128 character message, hardly enough to describe the seller and how she treated my wife.I have had something similar happen before at a show in Williamantic, CT a few years ago. There was a guy that was selling a few Varney "Old Lady" 2-8-0's and "Casey Jones" 4-6-0's, of which I have a small number of each. He had a Varney 4-6-0 for $5. He said that the engine was a derelict and would never run again, as it shorted out every time he ran it. I paid him the $5, and looked the engine and tender over, one of the tender trucks had been reversed, so short would always occur if placed on live tracks. The test stand was in sight of that seller's booth, so when I got the engine to purr like a kitten, he was furious. He came over to the test tracks and demanded that I pay him $40 more since the engine runs, or he was going to take the engine back. ($45 was the price of the other Varney 4-6-0's he was selling). I told him that I paid the price that he asked and that I was not going to buy from him again.He tried claiming that I swapped tags to one of the staff members at the show, who had seen me perform the repairs and had even heard the discussion the seller and I had about the engine before I bought it. Needless to say, the staff member sided with me, and told the guy to give me my engine back.Every time we passed that guy's booth at shows that he is at, he calls me a "jerk", "cheat", and a negative religious reference that I would rather not type here. That seller has been at that particular show, at the same area for the past few years, despite problems that other people have had with him as well.It has gotten to the point that my wife insists that that we travel outside of connecticut for train shows, to avoid seeing that particular seller. Why is it that we have never had such problems with a seller outside of connecticut? Seriously.
I did not find out her name, but the banner on her booth said Scotsman's Trains.
I found the website for the group that runs the shows held at that location, and am going to file a report with them as soon as I get a reply back, as their "contact us" page only allows a 128 character message, hardly enough to describe the seller and how she treated my wife.
I have had something similar happen before at a show in Williamantic, CT a few years ago. There was a guy that was selling a few Varney "Old Lady" 2-8-0's and "Casey Jones" 4-6-0's, of which I have a small number of each. He had a Varney 4-6-0 for $5. He said that the engine was a derelict and would never run again, as it shorted out every time he ran it.
I paid him the $5, and looked the engine and tender over, one of the tender trucks had been reversed, so short would always occur if placed on live tracks. The test stand was in sight of that seller's booth, so when I got the engine to purr like a kitten, he was furious.
He came over to the test tracks and demanded that I pay him $40 more since the engine runs, or he was going to take the engine back. ($45 was the price of the other Varney 4-6-0's he was selling). I told him that I paid the price that he asked and that I was not going to buy from him again.
He tried claiming that I swapped tags to one of the staff members at the show, who had seen me perform the repairs and had even heard the discussion the seller and I had about the engine before I bought it. Needless to say, the staff member sided with me, and told the guy to give me my engine back.
Every time we passed that guy's booth at shows that he is at, he calls me a "jerk", "cheat", and a negative religious reference that I would rather not type here.
That seller has been at that particular show, at the same area for the past few years, despite problems that other people have had with him as well.
It has gotten to the point that my wife insists that that we travel outside of connecticut for train shows, to avoid seeing that particular seller.
Why is it that we have never had such problems with a seller outside of connecticut? Seriously.
It's been awhile since I posted here but I've been looking in once in awhile. Your stories remind me of why I quit going to train shows (but that's just me)..
You definitely did the right thing in telling Both sellers to go pound sand. I however am the type of guy that would stop at that guy's table each time and ask if there are any more $5 bargains to be had. Just to screw with him since he wants to be a name calling baby about it. I consider it the seller's responsibility to know what they are selling.
It isn't your fault or that of Any buyer that You know more than the sellers. I don't know about legality of changing the price before private sale of an item (or service), but I do know that after sale, Both parties have agreed, money and goods have changed hands, Done deal. Binding contract. At least that's the way it is in Michigan. Unless there is a provable circumstance where one has taken advantage of the other's (I'll say) simple or slow nature. In other words, if the seller obviously could not have known better due to a brain malfunction of some sort a case could be made that you took advantage of him. In that case, even, he would have to take you to court and prove his case to get his $40. Not worth it. In the case of the other one, the price changed before you made a purchase so you can elect to take it or leave it there for her to carry back home (which I'll bet she did). This is according to what I was told during the legal education portion of my builder license classes. I'm no lawyer but I'm sure it holds up for private purchase of items as well as other contracts.
The good news for your bride if she really wants one of those tanks, is that Athearn made more than one of them. It isn't the last one you'll see.
I had a table at a small swap meet a couple years ago. I was set up well before opening,and all the dealers were shopping around before the doors opened.This one dealer came over and bought all my scratchbuilt card board structures and some other stuff. Then he saw I had two Sheepscot kits. I was asking $175. I LET him talk me down to $150 and I sold em. About an hour after the show opened I walked by his tables on my way for coffe and he had all my stuff out on his table for sale. The Sheepscot kits he had marked up to $450!!!. I guess I came out all right though as he had all that stuff at the end of the day. I moved about half my stuff and went home happy. I like to attend swap meets but am still not a big fan of setting up a table.Just not a business man I guess. BILL
markpierce Have I mistakenly entered a Miss Manners column? Mark
Have I mistakenly entered a Miss Manners column?
Mark
You didn't know Miss Manners was a model railroader who scratchbuilds Z scale steam locomotives and flies around the world doing good deeds?
Actually, she knits Z scale steam locomotives, but you get the idea.
Andre
Unfortunately,you can't please everyone!!
You sell something too low,they think it's crappy and won't buy it!!!
Sell too high,they think it's too valuable and they won't buy it!!!
Sell it for a fair price and they still won't buy it!!!
Go figure!!
"Remember,Cute and Cuddly Boys!!Cute and Cuddly!!"-Skipper:The Madagascar Penguins.
wjstix Texas Zepher Railroader_Sailor_SSN-760He had a Varney 4-6-0 for $5. He said that the engine was a derelict and would never run again, as it shorted out every time he ran it. I paid him the $5, and looked the engine and tender over, one of the tender trucks had been reversed, so short would always occur if placed on live tracks. The test stand was in sight of that seller's booth, so when I got the engine to purr like a kitten, he was furious. So why did you fix it at the show instead of just taking it home and doing that there? Were you trying to prove something to him? I can't see any problem with taking an engine over to a public test track to see if you can get it to run. As the old saying goes "you pays your money and you takes your chances". In this case the seller was the one who thru his ignorance sold something lower than it should have been. Too bad. Once money changes hands, the deal's done. I would contact the people who run the local train shows and find out if he's going to be there, and then tell the people running it what happened and that you won't be there if he is there. Odds are you're not the only one to have an issue, at some point train show promoters might decide having the money from one seller isn't worth his driving people away.
Texas Zepher Railroader_Sailor_SSN-760He had a Varney 4-6-0 for $5. He said that the engine was a derelict and would never run again, as it shorted out every time he ran it. I paid him the $5, and looked the engine and tender over, one of the tender trucks had been reversed, so short would always occur if placed on live tracks. The test stand was in sight of that seller's booth, so when I got the engine to purr like a kitten, he was furious. So why did you fix it at the show instead of just taking it home and doing that there? Were you trying to prove something to him?
Railroader_Sailor_SSN-760He had a Varney 4-6-0 for $5. He said that the engine was a derelict and would never run again, as it shorted out every time he ran it. I paid him the $5, and looked the engine and tender over, one of the tender trucks had been reversed, so short would always occur if placed on live tracks. The test stand was in sight of that seller's booth, so when I got the engine to purr like a kitten, he was furious.
I can't see any problem with taking an engine over to a public test track to see if you can get it to run. As the old saying goes "you pays your money and you takes your chances". In this case the seller was the one who thru his ignorance sold something lower than it should have been. Too bad. Once money changes hands, the deal's done.
I would contact the people who run the local train shows and find out if he's going to be there, and then tell the people running it what happened and that you won't be there if he is there. Odds are you're not the only one to have an issue, at some point train show promoters might decide having the money from one seller isn't worth his driving people away.
I've did that once with a "junk" Athearn BB fat body GP35 many years ago and recieve a cussing out.Needless to say that was my last time.
You see the dealer lost his cool and said I "cheated" him because I knew what was wrong with the foul,foul,locomotive and proceed to ramp and rave while cussing me out.Made a terrible scene over a $12.50 locomotive.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
I no longer go to this hobby shop. I had scratch built some buildings thet came out pretty good,but had no place on my layout for them. I brought them to this hobby shop to have him sell them on consignment. We agreed on a price, at 25% his 75% me.They sold very quickly. I thought I got my 75% and was happy with that, but a few weeks later I found out who bought them and learned he paid much more for them than what hobby shop owner and I agreed on.I am still happy with what I got,but he wasn't honest with me about what he sold them for.had he told me what he really got i would not have wanted more. I setteled for what I agreed on, its just that I dont like to do business with dishonest people. So I dont go to that shop any more.
ccarannaI'd just be happy if I had a wife someday that even knows what a DD35A is.
My wife is about as big of a train fan as I am. She is a big Chessie System and Norfolk and Western fan, and she has asked what a DD35A, DDA40X, and an ALCO C855 would look like painted for the Chessie and the N&W.
Aside from a few of the larger engines, and a few of my favorites, she does not know most other diesel locomotive types from memory, but with steam engines, she knows most of them quite well. Her favorite is the 2-6-6-6 (Because the C&O had them....).
She gets comments from quite a few guys at train shows about how envious they are that she takes as active role in model railroading as she does. Right now she is in the process of preparing to scratch build her first car in TT scale, using plans in a book that she bought.
The memory on her camera is full of trains, from trips to Steamtown, to passing Amtrak trains, to short video clips of trains on the Horseshoe Curve...
I am quite positive that her credentials as a rail-fan are as solid as any guys...
If one is patient you might find the DD40 engine for a few bucks on eBay plus shipping. Heck, I have one of the older ones that has rotted for 30 years and counting...
Walking away from a 50 dollar [price hike] sale is a good move.
Marlon
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Texas ZepherRailroader_Sailor_SSN-760He had a Varney 4-6-0 for $5. He said that the engine was a derelict and would never run again, as it shorted out every time he ran it. I paid him the $5, and looked the engine and tender over, one of the tender trucks had been reversed, so short would always occur if placed on live tracks. The test stand was in sight of that seller's booth, so when I got the engine to purr like a kitten, he was furious. So why did you fix it at the show instead of just taking it home and doing that there? Were you trying to prove something to him?
locoi1sa I returned the money because it is what I would want to happen if the roles were reversed.
But then you said, next time, you'd keep the money.
I have done similar things on several occasions without getting a reward (which you also said you expected--10% off, remember?) or a thank you.. because it's what is right.
You should "get the attitude" that when you do the right thing, you don't expect to be rewarded for it. How were you "punished" for this "good deed?"
markpierceHave I mistakenly entered a Miss Manners column? Mark
Er, no. More like a "Miss Demeanor" column...
GraffenI will NEVER do that mistake again as next time I will leave it to the Police. I firmly believe that if you treat your fellow man good, you get good in return.
Yes, but your story seems to suggest that if you help your fellow man you should get "cash" in return, which is not the same thing.
How do you know that seller didn't see you later in the day standing at a booth looking wistfully at something you couldn't afford, went over and chatted a moment with the dealer and you ended-up with a surprisingly affordable "deal" ???
Or perhaps it wasn't that same day but the next show, or maybe you were rewarded in some other way you didn't expect.
I firmly believe that if you help your fellow man you *do* get "good" in return, but that life has all sorts of ways of rewarding good people, and vise versa.
Just think, if your seller-nemesis is like that all the time, he stands a pretty good chance of having hyper-tension and increased risk for a stroke or heart attack. Whereas if he'd been easy-going and good-natured about it, especially if he'd literally "laughed it off", it would have relieved his stress, boosted his immune system and probably added to his time on the planet.
Those platitudes often have a real, actual fundamental basis-- even though most people just see them as a "moral credo"-- there may be more to this "karma" thing than a bumper sticker...
"Excuse me, my Karma just ran over your Dogma!"
I returned the money because it is what I would want to happen if the roles were reversed. The only difference is I would have at least said THANK YOU. It doesn't cost anything to say it. If someone who was dishonest found and kept it would he have it? I was always taught that it pays to be polite. What hurt me was the non acknowledgment that I did him a BIG favor by finding and returning it to him. For those of you who disagrees with my disappointment from this fellow I hope you DO NOT lose anything and it is not returned.
I guess I should get the attitude that no good deed goes unpunished.
Pete
I pray every day I break even, Cause I can really use the money!
I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
chatanugaI have one basic rule when buying anything at hobby shows, e-Bay, etc. If the seller does not know the item(s) they are selling, use extreme caution and prepare to play it safe and not buy at all.Kevin
I have one basic rule when buying anything at hobby shows, e-Bay, etc. If the seller does not know the item(s) they are selling, use extreme caution and prepare to play it safe and not buy at all.
Kevin
I have a somewhat different take on this-- with a couple exceptions here and there-- IMO, in general, all things being equal, I am of the opinion that if someone puts something up for sale, appropriately priced or not, I have every right to purchase it, even if I'm "getting a steal" and take advantage of the good opportunity. If the seller later discovers their error then I believe: (a) they were "educated" and education is not free, nor should it be; (b) if their "education" occurs quickly then they are free to appeal to my better nature and maybe I will and maybe I won't relent and renegotiate. I generally feel no moral compunctions or obligations...
...except (!) when it seems apparent that the seller is fumbling badly-- perhaps trying to help someone else out by doing the sale (a deceased person's family for instance), or perhaps its stupendously obvious they are operating out of their element, or perhaps its a young person without a lot of "life experience", or something similar-- in those situations I generally go out of my way to disclose what I know (if anything) and assist them in making a good sale (or at least an informed one). I even go so far as to purposely overpay in some situations where I think the seller is trying in good faith to do their best but is obviously unable to do so.
A case in point, I recently purchased a second-hand band saw from a woman on craig's list. We exchanged some emails, haggled just a little, and then when I got there she had unilaterally decided to drop the price by a third. [Edit: Dropped it to One-third of the original] I considered her offer, and even though she seemed insistent on her price, I gave her another third and told her I was happy with that price, and left. So I got a "deal" I wasn't expecting, and she got 2/3's her asking price which she wasn't expecting.
I don't feel morally compelled to act as tutor or mentor for every seller in he world however. It depends on the situation I suppose.
John
There is a very disturbing trend in some of these posts. In two or three posts, people seem to suggest that they are owed something for their honesty. I certainly don't want to belabor the point, but really, all you should reasonably expect for returning someone's property or money to them is a smile and a thank you. And if you don't get it, well, that's a bad on the other guy, not you. To expect a finders fee or reward for returning cash strikes me as equally rude and greedy.
Now to the topic at hand: everyone selling something should understand it's value, and if he undervalues it, shame on him. You as the buyer should feel no remorse for having taken advantage of him. It's probably better, though, if you take your major score home and quietly gloat in the car, rather than doing anything in the presence of the seller. Human nature being what it is, no one is going to be happy with being on the losing end of a deal. Granted, no one likes a sore loser, but someone who is barely making ends meet doesn't see it that way, nor does someone who's not doing well at the show and is looking at losing money for the day / weekend.
While it is not legal in a retail store to reprice merchandise at the register, if you enter into a discussion of the price of the product PRIOR to purchasing it, then the seller is within his rights to reprice it. Not good business, because it will likely cost you the customer (see the earlier posting where the merchant insisted that the customer take the lower price), but it's not illegal or unethical, either. However, a train show isn't a retail establishment, so even that logic may not apply.
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andrechapelon While setting up a show a seller dropped a wad of cash by his table. I picked it up right away before some one else did and told the person he may have lost some money. He checked his box that the money fell from and confirmed what had happened. I handed him the cash (all of it) he grabbed it and put it back in the cash box. Not even a thank you or how about a 10% discount on any thing you like. Next time it happens I will have more money to spend on trains. The only person any of us has control over is ourselves. The fact that you weren't thanked or rewarded for doing the right thing is irrelevant. People are sometimes "rude" for reasons that aren't immediately apparent to others. The seller in question might have been mentally distracted by the task of setting up. The best thing to do is move on and continue to do the right thing. Getting bent out of shape about another person's action in such a situation is a waste of time. Andre
The only person any of us has control over is ourselves. The fact that you weren't thanked or rewarded for doing the right thing is irrelevant. People are sometimes "rude" for reasons that aren't immediately apparent to others. The seller in question might have been mentally distracted by the task of setting up.
The best thing to do is move on and continue to do the right thing. Getting bent out of shape about another person's action in such a situation is a waste of time.
Agreed. Doing the right thing "should" be its own reward. Either doing the right thing is worth doing because it is right, or it is not worth doing because it is right...which of those makes more sense logically? And, we should behave appropriately.
Let the burdens associated with boorish behaviour be those of the people acting badly. If you know you have done 'good', that should be sufficient...no thanks necessary. Peope who were raised well will know to thank you, and if they are especially pleased, they'll also reward you. Neither is necessary to accomplish a good deed worth doing in the first place.
-Crandell
Kevin,My e-bay policy is to study the picture and if the picture is to dark then its a no-go and on to the next item.
As far as hobby shows its "inspection time".
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Now back to the topic.
Before leaving I would have ask to speak to the show director and advise him/her of the problem and needless to say if that dealer and I would cross paths again I wouldn't even consider looking over her goods.