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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:25 PM

 Went to town today to get some more paint. I got three sample pots of rust colored paint, each a slightly different shade from the other and from the two I already have. Rusty rail (Olympic), rusted earth (Valspar) and rustica (Valspar). They're all Satin latex which makes them safe for me to use. Me and enamels don't get along at all and they must be used strictly outdoors. I could get acrylics but that costs more than a bit more. If anybody wants the mix numbers just let me know by PM or email and I'll send them to you.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:03 PM

Bowl of raw mixed nuts and a glass of water, please.

Saw my old doc today. He was blown away with the excellent lab results. Unfortunately, he could not write the prescription I need to remain on the MP. That will be my last visit with him, no hard feelings. So, the search resumes for a Doc who is not "owned" by a hospital and is free to pursue off-label curative treatments.Banged Head I know there is one in NC, but that is a 4 hour+ drive from here. I'll do whatever it takes of course.

Hope everyone is doing well this evening.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:02 PM

Hello

We actually have a bit of a sunny break here---YAYBig Smile

My branchline only deals with RS's and a few H14-44's. And, in a pinch may pull out a coupla these GP9u's

That there ding GP50 looks a little newish to meBig Smile

My day was spent crawling around the underside of the layout finding bits and pieces of little parts from a jar that I thought I had screwed the lid on. I did not do suchConfused hence all kinds of small pieces/parts fell out and promptly scattered themselves under the layout. 'Spring' found a few and spent time playing with those pieces that went under the door towards him---he also spent some time with paws under the door beckoning---come come--taking occassional swats at whatever he could near him----Whistling

aaahh! ---we still have human servers--that's good---Chloe, I'll just have a spaghetti dinner and a coffee please. I'll be at the corner boothSmile,Wink, & Grin

 

 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:18 PM

AmanaMedic

SAWYER: Good grief Kid! All summer we gotta worry about you dehydrating yourself...come winter, now we have to make sure you don't go and hypothermiate yourself!!!!! I forgot to say, nice shot of the Geep-50. I've always been a fan of them, but I like 'em best with the chop (normal) nose, nose bell, yellow and green paint job... CNW had the first production 50s, and made them THE power for "the Bird" (Falcon TOFC service), and other "hot" trains. But, the love affair wore-off as they were less than reliable. By the mid 90s, they were some pretty sad looking units. I think UP dumped 'em pretty quick after the Borg assimilation.

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Now THAT's what a GP-50 oughta look like...Mischief

 

haha, the joys of the weather of the South! thanks too! I prefer the high hooders myself though.

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Posted by Blazzin on Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:16 PM

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Packer
Chris, I like the tiger striped Gp50s and SD60s better.

Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, alllllllllllllllllllllrighteeeeeee then. Ask, and ye shall receive!

A coupla GP-50 tiger stipes fer ya...happy to oblige! I bagged both at Savanah, IL on a chilly fall 1987 day. Thankfully, they arrived at the ex-Milw (SooLine) diamond within minutes of each other.

Welp, after Miss Squirrel brings me a to-go bucket of coffee, it's back to W**K on yesterday's meetings for THAT....hmmmmm. OK, the squirrel is having a little trouble with THAT bucket. WHEN are the ladies coming back???

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  Yo!  Chris!  Nice photos.. really nice.. but I still like this one of yours.

  This one really makes my zippity do dah.~

  Robby~  Thank you for your input.  It gives me a different perspective on how someone approaches something.

  After reading your reply,  something clicked.. but I think also aside from everything else mentioned.. I think the 'retaining walls' need to go in... as a first.   Just to see how the buildings line up next to the walls.  Wow .. who would have ever guessed?

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:48 PM

Afternoon folks!

Ah, little squirrel, I'll have a Dr. Pepper if you please.  Maybe you can get the raccoon to help carry it over to the front booth now that the Moose have left and the deer cleaned up the mess they made....Whistling  What?  Oh, (sings) "I used to be a Fox, a good old Fox too.  But now I'm finished Foxing, I don't know what to do..."  (any Woodbadgers out there???)

Kieth, They didn't have many "modern" streets and roads way back in 1925, so I have no experience putting in blacktop on the layout.  Now gravel and brick....... Whistling  However, I would get all the buildings ready to go the layout in the rea yu will be constructing.  Do some measuring to be sure everything is going to fit and look right.  Then remove the buildings and put in the roads/streets/highways/etc.  Then install the building permanently, add scenery, and last of all the stuff THAT can be moved around.  Aka: cars, trucks, people, racoons, squirels, foxes, moose, and other critters found here in the diner. Smile,Wink, & GrinLaugh  The road will do little to interfere with putting in buildings and scenery, but buildings and scenery may make it a PITA to w*rk on the highway.......???

Later!

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:20 PM

Packer
Chris, I like the tiger striped Gp50s and SD60s better.

Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, alllllllllllllllllllllrighteeeeeee then. Ask, and ye shall receive!

A coupla GP-50 tiger stipes fer ya...happy to oblige! I bagged both at Savanah, IL on a chilly fall 1987 day. Thankfully, they arrived at the ex-Milw (SooLine) diamond within minutes of each other.

Welp, after Miss Squirrel brings me a to-go bucket of coffee, it's back to W**K on yesterday's meetings for THAT....hmmmmm. OK, the squirrel is having a little trouble with THAT bucket. WHEN are the ladies coming back???

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Posted by LSWrr on Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:54 PM
Good afternoon all,


Ok so last night the rail in the turntable pit worked ok so it’s spared the road treatment.  The part for the truck finally came in and is being installed as we speak, so I should get it back tonight. My son sent me a TXT message last night, out of the blue he wants’ to get a tattoo. Other than that all is well here.

Jeff watch your mailbox tomorrow!

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Posted by Packer on Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:12 PM

Afteroon ya'll. The date went well, and we've already planned a second one for next week Smile,Wink, & Grin

Chris, I like the tiger striped Gp50s and SD60s better.

Jim, good point. Make sure it's a human handing me the food.

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Posted by Robby P. on Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:02 PM

 Keith.......For roads I use "Smooth it".  Its made by Woodland Scenic.  Its about $5.00.   You just mix with water, and get it about like cake mix, and pour.  Its also sand able, but it will make a mess!!  I was thinking that maybe "plaster paris" might work just as good.  

 1....... I would put the buildings down first.  Let the road come to them.  Don't wanna have the road down, and then change your mind.  After where the buildings would go, maybe outline the base of them.  So you know where to pour your road/sidewalks/etc....

 2.... I wouldn't glue the cars.  I like to move mine around the layout.  One minute a car is at the warehouse, then the next I will put it at the switch tower.  Kinda changes things up.  I did see somewhere that some people were using a sticky wax for the people on the layout.  So if you wanted to move them, you could.

 Hope that helps.  Cool

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Posted by Blazzin on Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:56 PM

  RAy ~  Thanks again.

  The rest of you.. neVErMind~!  I got it now.  Whew .. been reading all this time. 

  This is what I have gathered.. and who knows how much I'll retain.

  Sideways first.

  And~ For roads use the styrene method.. along with Phillips idea.. buying it from Michael's.  Cutting it

painting it.. cracking it .. and detailing it.  Pretty cool really~  Seems like fun.

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Posted by Two Truck Shay on Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:40 AM

Morning Zoe. I'll have a beer, some bacon, and a cigarette. I have no will to live.

Although most of the country is covered in snow, Oregon is rain country this time of year. I'm fighting the shack-nasties and the railroad is helping, at least a little.

Look forward to connecting up the last section of the main line in the next day or so. I'll be able to run a train around the loop for the first time. Yea.

Good to hear mention of the the majestic møøse.

  A Møøse once bit my sister ...

  No realli!  She was Karving her initials on the møøse
  with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
  her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and
  star of many Norwegian møvies:  "The Høt Hands of an Oslo
  Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst
  Nordfink".

Good times.

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Posted by Blazzin on Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:22 AM

  Ray, thank you so much.  I feel better already.

  I hate to ask this.. but .. lol.. but in terms of horse before the carriage but in terms of making a diorama.. I think I should

1. Build roads first.. then paint them  and / or then glue the buildings in?  Then sidewalks?'

2. What should go in last?  Trees.. People? Glued then the cars and trucks .. NOT glued?

  This is all new to me... right now I'm reading up on roads.. and I am reading Jeff's idea.  Lots of stuff here.. seems I'm always reading.. and making a note.. to 'mark' it as a favorite.  I just hate to see someone else go through all this.. so I am making a collection some site for ideas.  For some one else .. who won't have to go through all the re:, re's on.. for ever and ever.   Thanks again.

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:08 AM

Blazzin
1. Ah the width of the roads?  I think I have read somewhere here .. that one inch represents one road.  Just guessing.. for N scale.. 1/8th equals 1 foot?  And most roads are legally 8 feet.. so 1 inch.

 

Ah.......  8 feet???  Nope!  Try 12 feet......... per lane.  Got parking?  One side.... or both? Add another 7/8 feet per parking lane or if on old city streets.....  traffic has to wait.. while other traffic clears.  If no curb.. add 2 feet for the shoulder.... each side.  At least THAT is the most widely used modern data. http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/480617

THAT said, a bit of selective compression might be in order. Whistling

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Posted by Blazzin on Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:49 AM

  "The usual.. Coffee"~

  Well today is a cloudy morning.  Sunny yesterday, but the clouds rolled in last night.. keeping us nice a comfy.  If there weren't any clouds.. it would have been a cold one.

  Jim,  Yes. Jeanne remembers it.  When I had asked her again.. this morning.. her reply was..  "Yeah I remember that baby raccoon.. but we were in the middle of nowhere.. and that was pretty scary."  Nothing like the sound of desparate screech of a lost baby raccoon... just looking for mama in the middle of a dark forest.

  Ok.. Jim.. Jeff.. anyone~  who cares to put their two cents in.  Last time.. I asked.. I got great replies on soldering.  Ray I believe was the best.. but Sawyer was up there too.  I believe the true secret to soldering was using a clean wet tip.. and rosin.. the two best answers.

  Ok.. here's a pic of my layout..  I'm doing roads.  Aside from me.. just laying out cars and putting together a diorama.. and also trying to do fiber optics.. I NEED TO MARK OUT ROADS.

  Yes today, I will be doing.. roads.. reading up on roads.. and demensions.  Then placing lines.. and marking out the roads.. parking spaces.. and maybe cut a 'relief' .. so as to give the road more detail of 3d instead of being just 'Flat'.. I hate that look of flatness.

 

  Here's one pic of the proposed roads.. and even parking spaces (for the train station)  that Jeanne insisted on.

  So I will be reading up on roads.  If anyone has any ideas.. or.. for that much.. dangers and pitfalls I would encounter.. please let me know now. .. LOL>  Jeff.. I'm calling in my favors.. lol.  Ah heck I know if you got the time.. or the others.. Just give me something here.  Just a side note here:  I haven't place in the road bed for the mains.. that will come later.. and seems to match up nicely.

So heres a pic of the proposed parking area.. as well as the roads in the background. 

100_0712.jpg picture by Blazzin55

  Heres the best photo I got to help see the vision of what I'd like.  Roads and parking space.

  I know.. I know.. what exactly are you asking.?

  1. Ah the width of the roads?  I think I have read somewhere here .. that one inch represents one road.  Just guessing.. for N scale.. 1/8th equals 1 foot?  And most roads are legally 8 feet.. so 1 inch.

  2.  How about the sidewalks?  Whats the width of a side walk?

  3.  How about the actual size of a street.. one lane both ways.. and also room for parking next to buildings.?

  4.  What material should I use to make roads.. what is the best.... if price is not a concern?

  5.  What problems will I encounter doing roads and parking spaces.  I'd really like to know ahead of time.

  Any suggestions.. ?  I'd really like to know~  I'm tired of going about things the hard way.  I thank you ahead of time.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:38 AM

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There's a thread about the mrr box car. I wonder how much spray paint is stolen in order to vandalize railroad equipment.

Looks to me as if that thread has been pulled.

mrr boxcar thread is now an EX-threadWhistling

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Posted by Cederstrand on Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:29 AM

Coffee in a  SANTA FE  mug, please & thanks.

Questions: How well do those HO track cleaning cars (with the rotating drum in the middle of a flat car) work? If they do work, could they do any harm to the old style automatic (weight triggered) crossings?

Going to pick up a live-type trap to relocate a flying squirrel who has taken up residence in the attic space above our bedroom this week. Millie kitty has been most amused stairing strait up at the ceiling.

Have a good day y'all.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:39 AM

Heartland Division CB&Q
There's a thread about the mrr box car. I wonder how much spray paint is stolen in order to vandalize railroad equipment.

Looks to me as if that thread has been pulled.

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:37 AM

Mornin' everyone!

I'll have a hot bowl of oatmeal with brown sugar to go along with the cup of dark roast coffee in a R&GV Mug.  I'll be in the front booth chatting with a couple guys in the moose outfits.....  What there not?  Real moose you say? 

BTW, telling the gender of a raccoon is done exactly the same as telling the gender of a skunk.  Actually very easy. What's difficult is trying to explain why you want to know! Whistling 

Inch, I think your cat can be summed up in the words of Shakespeare, "'Tis a pity that desire should outlive performance!"  (King Henry the IV, part 2)  The snowman will become part of my "collection".....

Jeffrey you should install some kind of hand grips in the opening of the access hole to help you lift yourself up.  Might make getting in there safer for you anyway....

Ulrich what do you mean "turning into"???  This place has been a zoo for a long, long time!

Gotta get moving.  Have a list of items needing to get done today.  Only a few involve the layout.Sad

Later!

73

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:24 AM

Uh, oh ..... Todd ordered Coco Puffs.... A rabbit was just in the kitchen... and, er .... I think those are actually rabbit droppings. .... Uh, Todd .... Todd! .... ... Yuk!...  Tongue

Chris .... thanks to you also commenting on the way car (correct name for caboose in Burlingtonese.) I plan to post the full train with steam loco in next WPF.

There's a thread about the mrr box car. I wonder how much spray paint is stolen in order to vandalize railroad equipment.

Inch ... CUTE  !!!!!!!!!  

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:52 AM

AztecEagle
BTW:What's a Wound Vac??Never heard of one!!!

Here's a link that can tell you all about it. Acti-Vac.

Check your PM's.

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Posted by Trainman Sam on Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:50 AM

Good Mornin' everyone!

Ummm, what is with the Beaver, Otter, Deer, Racoon, Chipmunk (No, he didn't think it funny when I screamed ALVIN!), and the Moose's?  I saw a picinic basket just a second ago, where did it go? Oh, nevermind, two bears, one big one little, have been spotted with it running away from the diner...

Anyway, may I please have a coffee and bran muffin? Thanks (yes, I said bran, just tryin to stay healthy ya know!)

You guys and the HO/N debate... has got me thinking, what if I did N scale for the NH&I???  Wait, CFO would kill me, I have spent enough already to get most of the Loco roster assembled.  I would be able to get more mainline out of N though, AW MAN!!!  Now I'm gonna have to buy an N Scale trackplanning template, just to see what can be done with the given space!   She's gonna LOVE this development!

Jeff- Glad to hear the provider pays for shipping!  Just one more blessing, right?!

Inch- I'm gonna put that snowman photo on my desktop until spring comes!!! Lol

Alright, I'm off to do more NH&I research. And to find an N Scale Trackplan template!!!

Edit: Jeff, are Wolf Spiders Poisonous?  And you think you could get a photo?  (Found the answers online, who knew! Lol)  I guess the beetle didn't have a ticket to ride so the station agent got him!!! Lol

Sam

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Posted by AztecEagle on Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:36 AM

Aww!!She's a real cutie!!!!SmileSmile,Wink, & Grin

I know she loves her Pappa and her Pappa loves her as well!!!SmileCool

Reminds me of when my neice was that age.Smile,Wink, & Grin 

Now she's 34 and married with her first child.Smile,Wink, & GrinBig Smile

From a Great Unclex7 to a Grandpa,let me buy you a fresh cup of java!!!Smile,Wink, & Grin

 

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Posted by AztecEagle on Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:28 AM

JW or RB,whichever moniker you prefer to go by is fine with me,I hope you'll be back in the pink again real soon!!

Loved your heavily weathered Railbox Car!!

Now all you need is some'Urban Graffiti'from Blair Line and it'll really look prototypical!!!

BTW:What's a Wound Vac??Never heard of one!!!

Hope your'e feeling better and you'll be dancing to"Jole Blon"or"Matilda"real soon!!!! 

 

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Posted by Robby P. on Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:20 AM

 Good morning.  Its a chilly morning, and I had to fight ICE on the windows Banged Head.

 Well not much planned for me today.  Just a "take it easy day" for me.  

 Maybe we can open up a zoo with all of these "animals" running around.  Plus it might help pay for gas, since we move so much.  Big Smile

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:57 AM

 Good morning. It's 30 and clear. The high will be in the low 60's and it will be partly cloudy.

Well yesterday I went through my exercises and determined the range of movement the orthopedic boot allows me. I will be able to get under the layout to get to the access holes but any vertical movement, as in rising from a squat to standing position will have to be done with my right foot flat on the floor and most of the weight carried by my left leg and it will have to be a straight ascent. That makes it a little hard but not difficult. Today I have to get the wound vacuum and it's associated equipment together and box them up for shipment back to the provider. Once it's boxed all I have to do is call the provider and they'll have UPS come and pick it up at their expense. That's a relief to me as I don't have two spare pennies to rub together. Other than that there's nothing special going on around here. There was a little action on the layout earlier this morning. A small beetle had gotten in somewhere and made the mistake of crawling across the north-west quadrant of the layout, just to the west side of the park. A wolf spider suddenly darted out of the station and snared the offending beetle then carried it's catch back into the station where I would assume it enjoyed a good meal. I didn't think something that big could get through an HO sized window but it seems to do it quite easily.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:23 AM

OK--now why is the Otter cleaning the broomcloset?Confused

Good Morning

Another dull day for our viewing pleasure. We are seeing a few little tiny snowfluffies with no accumulation--and we are going to see temperatures in the -10C to -3C range for the next week. Oh. And more dull dull dull days---Sad

BTW---did anyone notice the 2 moose (meese?) that are partaking of a breakfast repast, sitting at the window booth, themselves? ConfusedWhistling

Oh well. I guess that we are part of the natural cycle here---

Chloe---I'll have a coffee and breakfast bagel. I'll sit at the RC for a bitWhistling

 

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Posted by TMarsh on Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:05 AM

Good Morning. Just a bowl of Coco Puffs and a cup of coffee please Miss Squirrel. What? No Coco Puffs? The one thing you never had? I thought Chris had a bowl last...... oh. Well Missy hasn't had any problems by snacking on 'em.

Well it's Mom day, and I want to do some figuring out in the layout room before I have to leave, so Work tonight so not much, if anything will get done today, or tomorrow.

I glued a small section of roadbed down last night and will be laying the arc for the hidden track before making the base the new location for Gold Creek. I will be wiring the track as I go of course, and testing the track also. No surprises are wanted.

Bama- I think we best just let ‘em be. I afraid in the end there are more of them out there than us. I tangled with a bunch of chickens a few years back. Man, you'd be surprised at how many there really are. They were planning to take over the farm but claimed to be just an autonomous collective living peacefully in their little fence. But I knew different. Kept finding little weapons cache's stashed around and piles of food stocks here and there. Couldn't prove anything though. There are smart at looking stupid.

Best get a move on if I wanna get anything done.

Ya know, I never have been real comfortable around squirrels for some reason. They're kinda like a bomb getting ready to go off at any time.

Have a Great Day!!!

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Posted by inch53 on Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:22 AM

 

Mornin,,, whats with all the varmints hangin round here, looks almost like wild game night at the Legion, only there the games on the plate, not on the hoof. Think I seen a guy from PETA hangin round, guess the girls will getting a letter from them. Opps, got let the cat in, he's screamin at the door.

Well anyway, we got woke up by this little monster screaming papa papa,

Zazze n her mommy are livin with us now till Beth gets another job [which I hope is soon].

Got more snow forecast for Friday evening through Monday, 4-6". RT sent me an appropriate thought for it,

FLIP,,,,, we've had Deb in our thoughts, glad she's home keptin you in line.

Good news for ROB's heart, JEFF loosing the Hoover and most the colds seem to be improving. Just think, it's only 2 ½ months till May.

Seen some great modeling reports and pics. Nothing much been done on mine, but some piddling once in awhile.

Best gets round ta some chores, bout time to start getting bodies up n moving for work n school and let the cat back out. I think there might be a she-cat in-heat down the road. Fuzzy comes in eats then wants back out [don't know why he interested all he's got is desire n no spark].

Thoughts for those in need n hope Ya'll has a gooden

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DISCLAIMER-- This post does not clam anything posted here as fact or truth, but it may be just plain funny
  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Troy, AL
  • 724 posts
Posted by BamaCSX83 on Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:47 AM

Morning all.  Been up for a few hours already, stomach's acting funky.  Just a tall glass of milk and biscuits and gravy please.  I'll go ahead and say it, if y'all want me to get the girls back in here to keep the show on the road, I'll happily remove our new "staff". 

Not much at all happening, been up since about 3:45, can't go back to sleep, so I'm up.  Have to be at w**k at noon today, so we'll see how everyone likes the tired me (is MUCH different from the normal me, and different in a BAD way).  Think I'll just enjoy my food in the window booth, I hear distant approaching horn blasts, so we'll see what's coming up the main.

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