It is still there, although I would not consider it small.
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ericsp If you are like me and like industries and trains, you like industries that you can fit on your layout without removing most of the industry yet has a large quantity of cars. Below are some industries with good potential to model. Carmeuse Lime & Stone (formerly Oglebay Norton) Industrial Sands - Shafter, CA Satellite View, Street View, Web Page CTS Cement Transload Terminal - Santa Fe Springs, CABird's Eye View, Satellite View, Street View Plains LPG Natural Gas Liquids Plant - Shafter, CAAlthough this is a relatively large plant, you can model a smaller version and still have several cars at the plant. Some ways to save space would be to have less tanks (smaller plant), eliminate much of the empty land, and replace the bullet tanks with spherical storage tanks.Satellite View 1, Satellite View 2, Satellite View 3, Satellite View 4 Street View 1, Street View 2, Street View 3, Street View 4, Street View 5 Web Page Inergy Propane NGL Loading Racks - Bakersfield, CAThe plant is 7 miles from the loading racks.Satellite View, Street View, Web Page ConocoPhillps NGL Plant - Zuni, NMSatellite View, Bird's Eye View, Web Page US Cold Storage - Tulare, CAThis would make a good shallow relief industryBird's Eye View, Web Page Former ADM Corn Syrup Transload Terminal (Closed) - Empire, CAThey moved the operations to the Port of Stockton. It looks like it is being used for dry, bulk commodities now. It was similar to the asphalt terminal in the February 1994 issue of Model Railroader and in HO Lineside Industries You Can Build (Kalmbach Publishing)Bird's Eye View, Satellite View, Street View Diversified CPC Aerosol Propellant Plant - Anaheim, CASatellite View, Bird's Eye View, Street View, Web Page Links to older threads:CTSOglebay NortonConocoPhillips
If you are like me and like industries and trains, you like industries that you can fit on your layout without removing most of the industry yet has a large quantity of cars. Below are some industries with good potential to model.
Carmeuse Lime & Stone (formerly Oglebay Norton) Industrial Sands - Shafter, CA Satellite View, Street View, Web Page
CTS Cement Transload Terminal - Santa Fe Springs, CABird's Eye View, Satellite View, Street View
Plains LPG Natural Gas Liquids Plant - Shafter, CAAlthough this is a relatively large plant, you can model a smaller version and still have several cars at the plant. Some ways to save space would be to have less tanks (smaller plant), eliminate much of the empty land, and replace the bullet tanks with spherical storage tanks.Satellite View 1, Satellite View 2, Satellite View 3, Satellite View 4 Street View 1, Street View 2, Street View 3, Street View 4, Street View 5 Web Page
Inergy Propane NGL Loading Racks - Bakersfield, CAThe plant is 7 miles from the loading racks.Satellite View, Street View, Web Page
ConocoPhillps NGL Plant - Zuni, NMSatellite View, Bird's Eye View, Web Page
US Cold Storage - Tulare, CAThis would make a good shallow relief industryBird's Eye View, Web Page
Former ADM Corn Syrup Transload Terminal (Closed) - Empire, CAThey moved the operations to the Port of Stockton. It looks like it is being used for dry, bulk commodities now. It was similar to the asphalt terminal in the February 1994 issue of Model Railroader and in HO Lineside Industries You Can Build (Kalmbach Publishing)Bird's Eye View, Satellite View, Street View
Diversified CPC Aerosol Propellant Plant - Anaheim, CASatellite View, Bird's Eye View, Street View, Web Page
Links to older threads:CTSOglebay NortonConocoPhillips
Does Kimberly-Clark still have their plant in Fullerton California?
I lived in Fullerton for a year and remember going to see the crew switch cars there just about everyday.
It used to have 2 sidings going into the building back in the mid to late 1980`s......one was parallel to the street and 7 track yard.......the other was 90 Degrees to the street and had a platform that worked like a drawbridge that would sit across the one end of the track near the entrance of the building.
The siding near the street could hold about 18-40' boxcars and the other could hold about 5 to 6 cars.
Dennis Blank Jr.
CEO,COO,CFO,CMO,Bossman,Slavedriver,Engineer,Trackforeman,Grunt. Birdsboro & Reading Railroad
Here are a couple of underground LPG facilities in Bumstead, AZ and Adamana, AZ. If you scroll to the west of the Adamana facility, you will see a fairly large yard filled with tank cars.
The focal industry on my layout is the Mud Hen Brewery. Although I cannot have very long tracks because of the limited space, this industry is served by three tracks. The shortest one is the "dry goods in" track, where bags of yeast, hops and and other dry ingredients come in, that's the shortest track, served with boxcars. I can spot about trhree cars max there. The next longest track is the spent grains and grain-in (barley and other grains) facility. This can have a capacity of about five to six covered hopper cars. Then there's the product out track, this has the capacity for about six, maybe seven reefer cars. There is also an area for car storage for those cars that can wait to be loaded. So, this facility can keep the local switcher fairly busy in that area of the layout alone, which is only about 1' X 3' on the layout. The brewery can take an occasional open hopper, gondola or tank car as well. BTW, there are six other industries on this layout as well. plus an engine house, all on 14 feet long by one to two feet wide.
What about a frozen food plant? Carloads in include tankcars of vegetable oil and starch, covered hoppers of sugar and flour, reefers of frozen fruit and/or meat, and boxcar loads of packaging, plus tankcars or hoppers of inbound fuel. Outbound are reefers of frozen product.
Greenbrier Rail Services took over Arizona Freight Car Repair here in Tucson. The facility has its own switcher, though cars are spotted by UP yard engines as well. A wide variety of rolling stock is delivered to the facility for repair, and large parts are often scattered about the grounds.
http://www.gbrx.com/files/files/NAR/Repair_Maintenance/GRSOverview.pdf
Having a facility of this type on a layout would offer logical, believable reasons for moving all manner of rolling stock about. While the real facility is pretty decent sized (see satellite image, which doesn't quite show all of it), a model facility could be easily compressed to fit a layout. The building about middle of the photo is a covered work area. The offices are a pair of modulars, and there are a few old concrete intermodal loading ramps on the south perimeter of the grounds. Under the word "map" in the image are frames from disassembled intermodal cars, though currently there are a number of wheeless trucks sitting in that space.
When I build a layout, I hope to add a facility such as this.
"We do not quit playing because we grow old; we grow old because we quit playing." ~ Oliver Wendell Holmes
This Allen Company paper recycling center in San Diego has a large quantity of boxcars for its size.
Bird's Eye View, Web page
ericsp Here is a small intermodal terminal and auto terminal in Valley, NVBird's Eye View, Satellite Photograph
Here is a small intermodal terminal and auto terminal in Valley, NVBird's Eye View, Satellite Photograph
Here is a small auto terminal in Silver Bow, MT.Satellite Photograph
Another one that is common in the south, but is usually modeled as a small siding is woodchips/pulpwood. When I was a kid there were several pulpwood yards nearby. Basically a single track, a couple of small frame structures and a lot of pine. Even though small, they loaded out a lot of cars. Today's chip mills would make a great project as well. Both would be well suited for an empties in/loads out connection since many pulpwood cars were destination specific (Canton NC for example).
My grandma lived across from a pulpwood yard in rural southwest Arkansas; her first cousin ran it. Every few days, KCS would send a GP9 down with a couple of bulkhead flats and drop them at the siding. He would use his pulpwood loader to unload the trucks coming in from the woods, and he'd load them onto the flat cars. The local would show up and pick up the loaded cars. Of course, nowadays, the paper mills feed in entire logs, not the 5 foot sticks my cousin would unload/load. Ah, good memories!
I'm modeling an ethonal plant after reading an article in the last issue of the walthers catalog. Then I found a prototype ethonal plant just northeast of my area (Fort Collins, CO).
It should be fun switching this, because of the variety of cars and type of loads like Grain, pellets/corn, gasoline, and the end-product ethanol alcohol.
I love looking at satalite images of the industries, and then just following the tracks to see were they go, man that is the coolest thing EVAR!!!
Michael
CEO- Mile-HI-RailroadPrototype: D&RGW Moffat Line 1989
How about Hercules Powder? Many different types of products in (for black and smokeless powders, Dynamite, TNT, Cordite and Plastic Explosives). Tank cars, box cars, hoppers, covered hoppers, and gondolas inbound. Insulated cushioned underframe boxcars and covered hoppers for bulk shipments and all of the empty cars out. Explosives 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 cars, HANDLE CAREFULLY!!!.
You could also do a Military Arsonal, and they are huge like 26000 sq acres. they need parts in and parts out. Mainly box cars. Also flat cars for the heavy equipment like tanks and hummers.
Here are a few more.
Nevada Cement Terminal - Sacramento, CABird's Eye View, Satellite View, Street View, Web page
Cemex Terminal - Polk, CABird's Eye View, Satellite View
Headwaters Resources Fly Ash Terminal - Fresno, CABird's Eye View, Satellite View, Street View, Web page
West Coast Pipe Inspection and Testing - Shafter, CAThis is actually rather large, but should be easily compressed.Satellite View, Web page
Grimmway Farms - Shafter, CAThis industry is a bit on the large side. However, for the amount of reefers there, it is small compared to other industries that have the same quantity of reefers.Satellite View, Street View, Web page
jmbjmbAnother one that is common in the south, but is usually modeled as a small siding is woodchips/pulpwood. When I was a kid there were several pulpwood yards nearby. Basically a single track, a couple of small frame structures and a lot of pine. Even though small, they loaded out a lot of cars. Today's chip mills would make a great project as well. Both would be well suited for an empties in/loads out connection since many pulpwood cars were destination specific (Canton NC for example).
I had completely forgotten about it, but MR had an article about those in the October 2002 issue.
On my all-too-frequent trips to visit the in-laws, I pass the Union Tank Car Co. repair shop in Cleveland, TX coming and going. A reasonable representation of this will reside on my layout when it (the layout) eventually moves from paper to plywood.
Look how many cars are staged on the map: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=union+tank+cleveland+tx&fb=1&gl=us&hq=union+tank&hnear=cleveland+tx&cid=0,0,18312235321312360894&ei=4C5eS4LLM4H-tQOCrrnpAQ&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQnwIwAA
One really cool feature is they have a sign at the entrance with a miniature detailed tank car mounted on top. I figure I can duplicate this pretty closely with a Z-scale tank car.
A link to a turkey feed manufacturer in Dubois Indiana. Receives a 10 to 12 car train of soybean meal every few days. This satellite photo is when it was relatively new. Its only about 5 years old and looks like an ADM grain elevator kit could model it very well. An Alco S2 brings the cars in from the NS interchange about 16 miles away. Zoom in close and scroll due north from the center of town.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=dubois+Indiana&rlz=1R2GGLT_enUS333&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Dubois,+IN&gl=us&ei=0lVbS8rYLYXUNdfV-PwO&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ8gEwAA
- Douglas
I am in the process of relocating to Williamsburg Michigan just east of Traverse City. This is fruit country (in northern Michigan of all places). 22 wineries within 30 miles, cherry, apple and peach trees as far as the eye can see, National cherry festival around the Fourth of July and a really neat little rail loading building in Williamsburg. Originally rails served the numerous packing plants directly but now this little forty by twenty foot building does the job. There are two truck docks on the west side, two rail loading doors on the north and one on the south side. Apparently fruit is brought by truck, unloaded by forklift directly to rail cars. The building is modern corrugated steel siding and perfect for a small space. The siding looks like it can handle ten to twelve cars at a time but right now everything is covered in snow. As soon as the snow thins out (57" at this point) I'll get some pictures.
ChadMichaels ok so ive searched for Golden Grain Ethanol plant in Mason City Iowa but can not find any views...what am i doing wrong?
ok so ive searched for Golden Grain Ethanol plant in Mason City Iowa but can not find any views...what am i doing wrong?
When I searched for Golden Grain Ethanol, I did not find much relevant. It looks like that is because its name is actually Golden Grain Energy.http://www.goldengrainenergy.com/plant_photo.htm
The most recent Track Planning has an article on corn syrup switching. Never knew how much of that stuff there was.
Something I think is interesting is how we are influenced by what we grew up with and see. I grew up in an area with one large dominant industry and many small businesses. Even the town I'm in had many small rail served businesses, some as recently as a couple years ago. One was a dead ringer for Walters propane. Another, a commercial food service, was a classic "freight car is almost bigger than the building". What also surprised me was how many covered hoppers a very small elevator can consume. Those can be very small and still generate a lot of traffic. There are two small elevators and a feed mill here that help justify a locomotive stationed in town.
HO Scale modeler of Union Pacific and Iowa Chicago and Eastern Railroads.
markpierce Even loose cement was shipped in box cars before suitable covered hoppers became generally available. Mark
Even loose cement was shipped in box cars before suitable covered hoppers became generally available.
Mark
Mark,One of my favorite waybills was for a N Scale SP&S 40' boxcar..It was loaded with bagged cement for Imperial Cement Products Bristol,Va on my old CD&B....I have the same waybill today but,its for a BN boxcar headed for Reliance Universal Concrete Products Jackson,Oh on my C&HV...I used real names gleamed from phone books but,relocated the industries to towns on my former CD&B and now my CH&V's Jackson Line.
Boxcars haul a lot of things.Even today loads for boxcars can be anything from pet food to gaylords of scrap paper..I suppose that's why I like boxcars.
Larry
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Dave,Yes,bagged cement can be ship in boxcars.
Here is a handy list.
http://www.csx.com/?fuseaction=customers.acquanted#DOC26911
Do US cement works still send out bagged cement (in boxcars) by rail? Just wondering because a plant I worked at shipped about 95% bulk by tanker but the rest bagged on pallets. It could add another variation. Maybe all door box cars?
Something I've never seen modelled is either a plaster-board factory or a corrugated cement/asbestos cladding/roof sheet factory???
I don't think that much of the factory needs to be modelled. What I am aiming to do is to run the tail track for an off-scene large industry out from a scenic break and along between the backs of smaller industries and the main tracks. Hopefully this will give me the best of all worlds. It also gives somewhere for the big plant's own internal locos to shuffle about.
Thanks for starting the interesting thread. I like the links.
Good list. My old T/C had a couple that may be of interest. (1955)
1. Limestone mine/plant. Used gravity loaded covered & open hoppers for bulk, box cars / fork trucks for bagged product.
2. Furniture factory. Used flats for lumber in, tanks / adhesives/varnish, etc., box cars / fabric, metal parts, etc., in - finished goods out. Usually had a gondola under a chute for waste.
3. RR / truck cross dock. Long narrow dock, 4-5 box cars on one side, trucks on the other. Freight moved back and forth. (RR owned)
(#1 & 2 also had facility for using trucks, as well)
barrokDon't forget the team track!
I purposely left out the team track. The post was about industries, I do not consider a team track to be an industry.
I have a cement plant I can get to use boxcars, and hoppers. Normally if I will add a plant, shipping, etc....I will make sure I can use a couple of different cars. I think I will get more enjoyment out of it.
On another note:
A plant right below me does "rock salt" for winter, and they only have about three sidings. Right now with it being winter, they have hoppers everywhere. The room for them???? Nope. A small yard below the plant is full of hoppers. Way more than normal. I guess used for the extra hoppers.
I guess you could always add a small yard just for a plant, but that will take up more layout room.
Here is a quick shot of the lower yard. Not the best shot, but hey its was taken in a moving car on the bridge.
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