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Teen Model Railroader Place- December 2009

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Posted by WCfan on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 7:02 PM

Packers#1

Hey guys, I've been starting research.

For the future layout

As in after college and I find a job

It's on the MILW

And it's their LINES WEST

I originally got the idea from TRP issue #82 which has a great railfan article written by two guys who railfanned the Linews West right before it closed down. I've found some good internet sites (mainly pics), and I'll try to dig up some history as well. right now I'm just browsing the photos and trying to get a feel for the RR. If I do ever model this the era would be 1977-1980, which cuts out the electrics, but still allows me to run both MILW SD40-2s and then also the Geeps which took over right before the demise of the Lines West. While it might seem silly to cut out electrification, it is practical for n scale. any models of the Little Joes or other electrics in n scale are brass and expensive. Kato makes the SD40-2 and atlas has me covered for the Geeps. Also, the catenary poles were still up. This is as far as my research has gone so far. I'm not giving up the ANRR though, that's my layout for at least the next year or two, if not longer.

Big Smile Alright! The MILW Pacific Extension has always fascinated me. The scenery is amazing on that line. Many bridges, cuts, tunnels, it's an all around great line. Here is a link that I've found on the demise of the Pacific extension. Popular belief was that the MILW was running broke, and the Pacific Extension was the boat anchor, this article explains the real truth.

http://www.trainweb.org/milwaukee/article.html

I have some articles about people who have modeled the Pacific Extension, and I have some magazines talking about the extension. It's quite interesting.

If you’re looking for pictures, check out Railpictures.net, they have lots of great pictures of the lines west.

www.railpictures.net

In railroad, obviously search Milwaukee Road. Under photographers Search for these photographers.

Steve Schmollinger, and Blair Kooistra. Paul Greenfield has three photos, but I think they are worth looking at.

I have seen a lot of captivating photos from this line, if you ever model it, you may have a hard time picking exactly where to model, the line was full of so much variety.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 6:12 PM

 Tyler, signed the guestbook on your site.

IVRW, welcome to the thread! 1895 is a fun year, used to be big into reading about the RRs back then. Of course, my model railroad is set in 1996-97(finally narrowed it down)

Hey guys, I've been starting research.

For the future layout

As in after college and I find a job

It's on the MILW

And it's their LINES WEST

I originally got the idea from TRP issue #82 which has a great railfan article written by two guys who railfanned the Linews West right before it closed down. I've found some good internet sites (mainly pics), and I'll try to dig up some history as well. right now I'm just browsing the photos and trying to get a feel for the RR. If I do ever model this the era would be 1977-1980, which cuts out the electrics, but still allows me to run both MILW SD40-2s and then also the Geeps which took over right before the demise of the Lines West. While it might seem silly to cut out electrification, it is practical for n scale. any models of the Little Joes or other electrics in n scale are brass and expensive. Kato makes the SD40-2 and atlas has me covered for the Geeps. Also, the catenary poles were still up. This is as far as my research has gone so far. I'm not giving up the ANRR though, that's my layout for at least the next year or two, if not longer.

Sawyer Berry

Clemson University c/o 2018

Building a protolanced industrial park layout

 

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Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 4:38 PM
Actually, ns3010, Prototype stuff from that era is pretty easy to find. There is a whole collection of Sandborn maps at my LOCAL library, imagine the state library and their collection. In fact, I have 3 copies of 3 maps from the library and used them to "place" my RR. Also, check my site again. I added another page of photos and a movie, "My cross country trip in 48 seconds" Enjoy. http://www.kreepykritters4kids.com/Johns_Model_Railroad/Welcome.html

~G4

19 Years old, modeling the Cowlitz, Chehalis, and Cascade Railroad of Western Washington in 1927 in 6X6 feet.

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 3:03 PM

Let me make that link live: http://www.kreepykritters4kids.com/Johns_Model_Railroad/Welcome.html

Wow, 1895! Good thing you're freelancing, or you'd have some trouble finding info on a prototype...

Tyler: Great history, and very realistic. I need to write a new one, if I can find time (I had an old one, but it wasn't really realistic, so I'm feeling the need to go back to the writer's desk...)

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Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 2:45 PM
By the way, Tyler, the video was really nice and I like your new forum photo.

John

~G4

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Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 2:43 PM
I don't have much done, I'm afraid, but there are over 500 photos of my GIANT cross country trip I took this summer. 32 States, 3 Months, and 13,581 Miles All over America!. http://www.kreepykritters4kids.com/Johns_Model_Railroad/Welcome.html

~G4

19 Years old, modeling the Cowlitz, Chehalis, and Cascade Railroad of Western Washington in 1927 in 6X6 feet.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 1:28 PM

Wow - 1895! You don't see many modelers with an era before the 1920s! Do you have any photos you could post of your layout?

Here's the short version of my railroad's history...check out the WRS Website for photos, more information about the railroad than anyone would ever care about, and a bunch of other stuff!

In 1984, Guilford Rail Systems, owner of the Boston & Maine's Northern Division between Concord, NH, and White River Junction, VT, filed to abandon the line. For fear of losing the corridor, the State of New Hampshire stepped in and purchased the right of way, contracting the newly formed White River Southern Railroad to operate and maintain the railroad.

 

The White River Southern Railroad purchased the 55 miles of trackage between Lebanon NH, to Concord NH from the state in 1996. Trains west of Lebanon continued to run over trackage owned by the state and leased to the Claremont-Concord Railroad. Beginning in Summer 1997, the WRS began a massive infrastructure improvement project. Track upgrades began all over the system, with a new yard built in Lebanon, and 132 lb Welded Rail installed on most of the system, bringing track speeds up to 40 mph on most of the route.



Today the White River Southern Railroad operates 71 miles of track in the states of New Hampshire and Vermont. Railroad connections include Claremont-Concord Railroad, Vermont Rail Systems, New England Central Railroad, and Pan Am Railways in White River Junction VT, and Merrimack & Souhegan Railroad and New England Southern in Concord NH. Operations typically involve three crews; one each for road, yard, and wayfreight service

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EDIT: Here's a new video from me, in 1080p HD format! As soon as I figure out a battery problem on my new camera, I'll be filming a good-old-fashioned train chase over the railroad including new scenery in Lebanon, Enfield, and West Canaan!

WRS LE-2 in Enfield, NH (11/28/09)

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Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 12:18 PM
No prototype, just fun. Set in 1895 Utah. In short, I am IVRW (Irvine Valley Railway) a 13 year old Model Railroader. I have been obsessed with Trains as long as I can remember. My first Model Railroader Magazine I can remember getting was the GMR 2002. From then on I have been getting them whenever I can. I just subscribed in September of 08 with all my own money. I am currently building a Utah Shortline, set in 1895, called the Irvine Valley Railway (Hence IVRR or IVRW) It is mostly a feeder line that has a small yard, an ore mine, and a logging theme. Rolling stock consists 3 Locomotives, a set of 36 Ft. passenger cars, four 36 Ft. box cars (2 Box, Stock, and Reefer), a bobber caboose, and a drovers caboose. Even though I am young and this is my first layout, it is still designed for operation. It follow practices of railroads in the era, and is going to have prototypical scenery from the era and area that I am Modeling. At current, I am finishing the structures required for the layout, and I am starting to make the vast forest for the layout. Thats just about it. Post if you have any questions. Ill be happy to answer.

~G4

19 Years old, modeling the Cowlitz, Chehalis, and Cascade Railroad of Western Washington in 1927 in 6X6 feet.

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 11:49 AM

Sign - Welcome IVRW!

I'm having a similar problem with my Bmann GP50. When I turn on the headlight, only the rear one (long hood) comes on, even though the direction is set to forward (I have it programmed forward to be short hood forward). If I change the direction to reverse, the rear headlight stays on (like it's supposed to be in reverse). When I move the throttle, nothing. The decoder seems to think that it is always in reverse, but never moving. And in DC, nothing at all. I'll either get a new decoder, or dump it altogether (it's a piece of junk).
Yours seems to be basically the same, so the decoder is probably shot.

Anyways, can you tell us more about your layout? Size, prototype?

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Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 11:37 AM
I guess I might join my Model Railroading peers for once. In November, Dad and I went to the Wasatch Rails 2009 train show in Salt Lake. There I got a Bachmann Shay, two log cars, skeleton, a water tower, an old Roundhouse kit, and at least 3 Aethern BB kits. Later that same month, I went to the Ophir, Tintic, & Western Model Railroad club meeting for the first time, when I joined. From there, I haven't touched the RR because I have a "Great Ideas and Observations in the History of Science" writing assignment due on the philosophy of time, and a "Textual Analysis and Argumentation" paper due on how the emotional distance between Chris McCandless and his parents affected his later actions. The Stanford Education Program for Gifted Youth Online High School is robbing me of my train time! However, a few good things have been done. Dad got a few more feeder connections done. But that came with a problem as well, while test running the trains, a short happened somewhere and set the entire system offline. Did I mention that the DCC system wont pick up the Shay. The shay is supposed to be DCC, but even on the DC mode, it wont be picked up. At the december meeting of the OT&W, I hope to ask someone to come over to my house and to help me trouble shoot. But overall, Im happy. I don't know why I am in this situation that has spiraled downward and spontaneously combusted, but I am. Thats what Model Railroading is all about.

~G4

19 Years old, modeling the Cowlitz, Chehalis, and Cascade Railroad of Western Washington in 1927 in 6X6 feet.

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Teen Model Railroader Place- December 2009
Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 10:47 AM

Well, it's December (that was a fast year!), and methinks it be time for a new place.

Old Place

 

Well, we had our Bishop's Mass today, so I got out at 11 Big Smile
Also, the Bishop gave us a day off for anytime this year. Last year, they used it on the Friday before Memorial Day, and the extra long weekend was really nice.

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