The Return of the Grafffiti King --- Vandalism BECOMES ARTWORK

[Roadtrp]

"Actually, this GG1 is owned by the B&O Museum and has been sitting where it is since 1985. It's really sad to see it like this. It also happens to be the GG1 that was involved in a big crash in Washington, D.C. Union Station in 1953."

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I agree that it is really sad that some young dumb vandal defaced the GG1 that way. And I think it is even sadder (and dumber) that the B&O Museum, which should be responsible for preserving the loco, has let it sit there and deterioriate for almost 20 years.

I'm not real sure who the worse vandal is here... [V]

[Big_Boy_4005]

Thanks Sask, those are some amazing photos. My opinion of the tank cars is, that the graffiti is a vast improvement over the original plain black.

The GG-1, having not been resrored yet, is no big deal. That may have happened before it came under the protection of the museum, and once restored should command respect again. Beside, this engine has seen much worse than graffiti in it's lifetime.[swg]

The really amazing photo is the UP loco. How the HELL did they let that happen??? Either someone was asleep, or the employees were bored. Maybe they were angry at the prospect of an impending layoff, and decided to try "art" instead.[:P]

The old BN caboose is also interesting. I found this one a few weeks ago in the other side of town, being used in a work train that was distributing ties.



Oh, and thanks for the link. I've marked it.[swg]

[dharmon]

It almost looks like you two photographed opposite sides of the same caboose.

[Big_Boy_4005]

Back to modeling guys. I went to CompUSA yesterday and picked up some window decal material. This is a clear peel and stick product made by Avery. This is not the same as water decals. It has advantages and disadvantages.

This is not the best method for all applications, but it is quick and easy. Since I work in O scale, I have large areas to work with. Because some of my trains are collectable, I don't want to make permenant changes that would deface the car.

This product would work well to simulate lighted signs or stained glass because it is not opaque. Any flat surface will work, but this product does not conform to detail.





I know there are a lot of people that wish all graffiti would come off that easily. [swg]

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

It almost looks like you two photographed opposite sides of the same caboose.

That's why I posted it. I was wondering the same thing. I have a feeling that there are a few painted BN cabooses. Actually, the article that was in MR a while back also featured a BN caboose. Now I'll have to go find that article and see if any of these match.[:0][swg]

The article I was thinking of was done in June 2003. It was called "Painting with decals". The thing is, the author was working in N scale. That technique would become increasingly difficult and expensive as the size of the trains got larger. This is a variation on that theme, and by changing the application slightly, it opens up a lot more possibilities.

For all of my graffiti hating friends who have managed to stick around, and "eat their vegetables", this is "dessert". I hope you find it better than "Jell-o". [swg]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

QUOTE: Originally posted by cjm89

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

QUOTE: Originally posted by FJ and G

Lets call our group, Model Railroaders in the Hood.

dav

How about "Ghetto Model Railroaders". Count me in, it'll be fun! It's illegal, but fun! So I guess it'd be illegal fun. But how can fun be illegal?[:0][?]................[:p]

We'll be walkin' in the backstreet alleys of East St. Louis or South LA or maybe even Queens, New York, packing Colt 45's, wearing our hats backwards, repainting NS locomotives in Wabash or NKP paint....[:D][8D][;)][:p][}:)][:)]

Sorry, 4884BigBoy, but I'm a Country Boy now and forever!

And I can't stand wearing a hat backwards[xx(], in fact the only thing I wrote that I would support would be NS repainting it's roster in WABASH and NKP colors![:D]

Hey, I agree. I was only joking. I can't stand wearing hats backwards, either! I'm a Michigander and proud of it. No ghetto hear (atleast I thought there was none till I went to Detriot[;)]) But, repainting locos in thier old rold scheme does sound interesting. I wish modern roads would do more of that.[:(]

I was only joking too, but SD-90/43MAC's in the older Wabash scheme would be the coolest thing to see![:D]

Here's a link that is sort of what I am thinking, only my most favorite road:

If This was a rela locomotive and some punk tagged it, I would personally hunt them down![:D][:p][}:)][;)]

[Anonymous]

Well, would you believe it, here's another picture of a graffitied BN caboose? This one came from that graffiti website that I mentioned, which is where I got the other one, but it's in a different section of the site and while no location is given, this one came from a section of US photos, while the other was taken in Vancouver, B.C.

Somebody sure must not like BN!

Here's another caboose that someone's painted. It's rather ironic that it's an Operation Lifesaver caboose advising people to stay off the tracks when someone clearly had to be tresspassing in order to do this.




In France the taggers are really ambitious, actually targeting the TGV!

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cjm89
I was only joking too, but SD-90/43MAC's in the older Wabash scheme would be the coolest thing to see![:D]

Here's a link that is sort of what I am thinking, only my most favorite road:

If This was a rela locomotive and some punk tagged it, I would personally hunt them down![:D][:p][}:)][;)]

This is starting to remind me of Juby4life's story, only he likes The Rock. Modern equipment in fallen flags paint. If you do it, be careful who you show it to, it could be worse than graffiti. Just ask Juby.[:0][:(][;)]

Sask, I'm beginning to wonder how many cabooses are left on BNSF roster. Very few railroad jobs call for a caboose anymore. The major roads have been trying to dump local switch work for years. MOW and locals are most of the places you would find a caboose these days. The majority went for scrap long ago.

Over 30 years ago, I saw a thing in Mad Magazine, about how you could keep thieves from stealing your new car. The Mad solution was to basicly vandalize it yourself!!!!

Could this be a company plan to make their cabooses look un-inviting???

[swg]

The French high speed trains are a real surprise. Again, I didn't think things like that sat unattended long enough to get hit. Live and learn.[;)]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

Back to modeling guys. I went to CompUSA yesterday and picked up some window decal material. This is a clear peel and stick product made by Avery. This is not the same as water decals. It has advantages and disadvantages.

This is not the best method for all applications, but it is quick and easy. Since I work in O scale, I have large areas to work with. Because some of my trains are collectable, I don't want to make permenant changes that would deface the car.

This product would work well to simulate lighted signs or stained glass because it is not opaque. Any flat surface will work, but this product does not conform to detail.





I know there are a lot of people that wish all graffiti would come off that easily. [swg]

Very nice!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Elliot,

That's some nice work you did pulling editing the photos to make decals. I agree with you that if you remove it from it's medium it can be art, just as any number of other things.....It's the choice of canvas that makes it distasteful. Alot of misdirected energy.

As far as graffiti goes though...like it or not it's a fixture on modern RRs. Decal companies are making graffiti slides that adorn some of my cars. Not as art but as a reflection of how cars look today. I think of it as a part of the weathering for some of my stock. Here's two examples from my own "fleet" and I have others that have been tagged....and I'm planning to do more.

there's a tad bit of rust... you might want to re-paint .

[FJ and G]

Elliot,

Thanks for the information on your technique. Well done.

You mention wanting to be able to remove the graffiti. You could create a scene on your layout of a mean looking cop, overseeing some juvenile delinquents, removing the graffiti that they sprayed on the outside of the train.

dav

[lupo]

QUOTE: Originally posted by FJ and G

Elliot,

Thanks for the information on your technique. Well done.

You mention wanting to be able to remove the graffiti. You could create a scene on your layout of a mean looking cop, overseeing some juvenile delinquents, removing the graffiti that they sprayed on the outside of the train.

dav

[}:)] Yet another railroad cop scene for your lay-out Elliot! [:D][:D][:D]
[:p] busy law enforcement going on overthere:
railroad-cops chasing railfanners, and juvenile delinquents around [^]

[Anonymous]

You're not going to believe this, but I have found pictures of YET ANOTHER GRAFFITIED BN CABOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That green must somehow be hipnotic to the taggers! I don't think that this one is in service because the website I got these pictures from says that it and an old GN passenger which is right by it are frequented by squatters and people looking for a place to drink. I couldn't find what city they are in. Well, here they are: