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Check the *date* on posts before replying ....
Posted by steinjr on Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:28 PM

 I have seen quite a few threads recently where some new user apparently has used the search function to find an old thread, and then posted a new post in that thread. Other posters then start answering the original questions in the old thread  (which can be months or years old).

 Best one so far was a bunch of people discussing a question that was six years old, and where the original poster no doubt had resolved his issue in some way years ago, but where he still was berated for not including enough information, and asked to supply more information.

 Before following up on a post or answering a question, please check the date on the post you want to follow up on - if it is months or years old, stop for a little second and consider whether it still makes sense for you to answer or follow up on it. The date can be found in the top left hand corner of each post.

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, August 24, 2009 5:58 AM

And just when we got people using Search instead of posting the same question 20 times.... Big Smile

Threads with new posts DO show up at the top even if it was started a year ago.

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Posted by Medina1128 on Monday, August 24, 2009 6:28 AM

Stein.. I'll get back to you in a few months on this one.. Big Smile

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Posted by MAbruce on Monday, August 24, 2009 6:40 AM

Stein:

I've seen this occur many times before.  Most of the time it's intentional by someone just trying to be cute or to stir things up.  Best to ignore it, unless you think you have the answer that no one had years ago. Wink    

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Monday, August 24, 2009 6:45 AM

Sometimes it is not the person posting the reply but rather the buggy software that controls this forum.

Last week, I read a current thread, pressed the reply button, composed a reply and pressed "post".  When the page updated to include my reply, it was suddenly a 6 year old post that I had never heard of, complete with my reply which made absolutely no sense in the context of the thread.

I immediately tried to delete my reply but the software informed me that there was a time limit for deletes that I had exceeded.  It did, however, let me edit it, so I just removed the text.

Of course my post moved the thread to the front page causing others to reply to it.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Monday, August 24, 2009 6:52 AM

rrinker

And just when we got people using Search instead of posting the same question 20 times.... Big Smile

Threads with new posts DO show up at the top even if it was started a year ago.

                          --Randy

Laugh--You get them using search and we STILL get old threadsSmile,Wink, & Grin

If this is a big concern then all we can do is lock any thread over 6 months old--and we'll have a vast research library!!Smile,Wink, & GrinMischief

---then again, the current threads will STILL recycle the same ol' same ol'-----oh, poor poor pitiful----Smile,Wink, & Grin

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Posted by steinjr on Monday, August 24, 2009 8:04 AM

MAbruce

Stein:

I've seen this occur many times before.  Most of the time it's intentional by someone just trying to be cute or to stir things up.  Best to ignore it, unless you think you have the answer that no one had years ago. Wink    

 

 You know that. I know that.

 Both of us also know that sometimes old threads gets resurrected by malicious action, sometimes it is due to software or data errors in the forum software, and sometimes it is due to more or less clueless action by a user (like when 13 year old poster IVRR came back from his summer vacation and just had to post one-line comments in a couple of dozen threads that had been dormant for six weeks).

 However - quite a few people apparently do not know this. Hence my attempt to inform people that it is indeed possible when replying to check the date on the post you want to comment on, and make a more or less informed decision on whether your answer is still relevant.

Not a big deal - just a little information.

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Posted by PA&ERR on Monday, August 24, 2009 8:41 AM

 You know, of course, that six months from now someone is going to dig up this thread and respond to it - just because! Wink

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, August 24, 2009 8:22 PM

blownout cylinder

rrinker

And just when we got people using Search instead of posting the same question 20 times.... Big Smile

Threads with new posts DO show up at the top even if it was started a year ago.

                          --Randy

Laugh--You get them using search and we STILL get old threadsSmile,Wink, & Grin

If this is a big concern then all we can do is lock any thread over 6 months old--and we'll have a vast research library!!Smile,Wink, & GrinMischief

---then again, the current threads will STILL recycle the same ol' same ol'-----oh, poor poor pitiful----Smile,Wink, & Grin

 That's sort of what I'm hinting at - it's marginally better that someone searched and added to what might be the original thread on a given topic rather than start new thread #99 on said same topic. Is it so bad that a given thread has posts over a 2 year span? That would go to the lockign of any thread 6 months old - oh that's now old stale information, just start a new thread. If old model railroading information was stale and useless, I wouldn;t have a collection of MR magazines dating back to the 40's.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, August 24, 2009 8:51 PM

I wish people would look through the old threads, find applicable ones and post to them instead of bringing up the same thing over and over and over and over again. 

How many "whats the best airbrush" threads are there.

How many "how many locos or what's your roster" threads are there.

etc.  etc.  etc.

Now I am not saying that someone shouldn't pay attention to the dates and make certain what they are posting is still relevant.

On the other (third hand) I think there are tons of old threads out there that got ignored the first time around and could use another shot on screen 1.
 

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Monday, August 24, 2009 10:45 PM

Same old topics--but with new techniques, new products, new ideas and irritated viewers---sheeesh.

 Sorry that threads tend to repeat themselves. Yes, I'd post to old threads---heck some people go bellyachin' 'bout some ol' thread being brought up and used----can't seem to win now can you?

These themes do repeat-- and that is just the way it is. So unless someone comes up with the One Truly Unique Original Post you'll just have to deal with them-----if it so irritates----don't respond or read them.Sigh

 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, August 24, 2009 11:18 PM

blownout cylinder

Same old topics--but with new techniques, new products, new ideas and irritated viewers---sheeesh.

 Sorry that threads tend to repeat themselves. Yes, I'd post to old threads---heck some people go bellyachin' 'bout some ol' thread being brought up and used----can't seem to win now can you?

These themes do repeat-- and that is just the way it is. So unless someone comes up with the One Truly Unique Original Post you'll just have to deal with them-----if it so irritates----don't respond or read them.Sigh

 

Barry,There lays the rub..How many months hand running have we had "How do I keep my track clean"? topics or some repeat topics like-best track,best engine,why doesn't my Walthers passenger cars run around my sharp 18" curves etc.

A forum should be a learning tool for many things from a informative and unbiased review of a new product,share ideas and suggestions and one of the uses is that of "search" for past topics like cleaning track.

However,being a moderator on 3 forums I know many asks questions or make replies in order to increase their post count or start a topic knowing it will become a heated debate.

What to do?

Nothing unless the forum is being ruled by jack booted moderators then they can delete topics that doesn't follow strict topic guide lines.

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Posted by steinjr on Monday, August 24, 2009 11:45 PM

 

blownout cylinder

Same old topics--but with new techniques, new products, new ideas and irritated viewers---sheeesh.

Sorry that threads tend to repeat themselves. Yes, I'd post to old threads---heck some people go bellyachin' 'bout some ol' thread being brought up and used----can't seem to win now can you?

These themes do repeat-- and that is just the way it is. So unless someone comes up with the One Truly Unique Original Post you'll just have to deal with them-----if it so irritates----don't respond or read them.Sigh

 Just to make it so simple that it ought to be fairly hard to misunderstand: I was not complaining about people adding relevant posts to an old thread, and I was not complaining about people starting new threads about stuff that has covered before, even though I probably should have expressed those opinions more clearly.

 I was trying to point out (since quite a few people seems utterly oblivious to this concept) that threads that show up on the first page sometimes can contain old posts, and that that people who want to reply to these threads probably should take into account the date of the post they are reading when evaluating whether the reply they want to make is still relevant to the thread.

 Nothing more, nothing less.

 Enough of this storm in a tea cup, eh? It was a mistake of me to post a grumble post. When someone does something I find annoying, I usually have the sense to write a semi-sarcastic grumble, and then not post it

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Posted by daveb on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:11 AM

I wonder if including the date of the original post with its name in the "Topics" column would perhaps help with this problem as you would then be able to see whether it is an old post which has been resurrected and then decide whether to read or respond.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:01 AM

steinjr
 I was trying to point out (since quite a few people seems utterly oblivious to this concept) that threads that show up on the first page sometimes can contain old posts, and that that people who want to reply to these threads probably should take into account the date of the post they are reading when evaluating whether the reply they want to make is still relevant to the thread.

That may be the rub---it may have been relevant to the poster---it may not even be relevant to the reader though. Which was the basis of some crabs I heard---the "why should we go over the same topics all the time" threads---Dead

steinjr
 Enough of this storm in a tea cup, eh? It was a mistake of me to post a grumble post. When someone does something I find annoying, I usually have the sense to write a semi-sarcastic grumble, and then not post it

Hey---sometimes grumble posts offer a break tooWhistlingLaugh---especially yours!!

Have a good one!!Smile

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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:00 AM

Maybe the thinking is that by reviving old posts Bergie Chef  will have to come back from the Taste of Home Forums to talk to us about them.

Dave Nelson

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