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Decals GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !

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Posted by C&O Fan on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:58 PM

Well Bob

as per the instructions in the champ package

I painted the area with a small amount of decal set

I soaked the decals in a plate of water and waited till they floated free then

picked the up by the corner with tweezers and applied them

i removed the excess water by touching the decal at the base

with the corner of a paper towel

then let them dry over night

when i touched then the next morning they fell off

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Posted by gmcrail on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:57 PM

 Decals, if properly applied, don't fall off.  I thjink you may have left out the step which says to overcoat the decals with a clear flat or gloss.

 

As one who has made custom decals professionally, I can tell you what the steps should be:

1.  Wash the model carefully with soap (I prefer Dawn dishwashing detergent) and water, using a soft brush  to gently scrub it clean, then rinse thoroughly.

2. Pat dry with tissue, then let the model air dry.  DO NOT TOUCH THE MODEL WITH BARE FINGERS AFTER THIS POINT!  (At least until after step #8.)

3. Spray a gloss finish on the entire model ( some folks will advocate just spraying the area to be decaled, but to ensure a uniform finish, I spray the entire model).  Let dry completely!

4.   Apply a generous amount of Microscale's Micro Set to the area to be decaled.  At the same time, dip the decal into distilled water long enough to get the paper backing thoroughly wet.  Set the decal aside on a non-porous surface. 

5. When the decal will slide on the backing, it is ready to apply.  Slide it onto the model and move it into its final position.  Let dry completely.

6.  Very gently apply the setting solution of your choice.  I prefer Walthers Solvaset.  DO NOT touch the decal itself while doing this.  Drag a drop over the surface, replenishing the drop as necessary to get the entire surface of the decal covered.  LET DRY COMPLETELY!  (Overnight is good.)

7.  Inspect the decal for whitish areas which indicate that the decal has not settled down completely.  *** these areas very carefully with the tip of a #11 blade or a very sharp pin, the re-apply the setting solution as in step #6.   Again, LET DRY COMPLETELY.  Repeat #6 & #7 as necessary.

8.  When again dry, and when no whitish areas are present, you should now overcoat the decals with a sprayed gloss finish.  When that is dry, apply the flat or satin finish of your choice. 

 The decals will not come off, even with regular handling.

 

Good luck.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:51 PM

pike-62

Sounds to me you decaled over an unpainted surface. Decals will not stick to bare plastic,wood,metal etc. The glues nad setting solution need a painted surface to work on. A glossy one is best.

Dan

No Dan These are on the number boards of my Athearn F 7

and they are painted along with the rest of the body shell

I'll up load a photo later tonight after my video finishes uploading

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Posted by pike-62 on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:38 PM

Sounds to me you decaled over an unpainted surface. Decals will not stick to bare plastic,wood,metal etc. The glues nad setting solution need a painted surface to work on. A glossy one is best.

Dan

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Posted by pastorbob on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:29 PM

Quite frankly, hard to have decals fall off if you followed directions.  I have used about all the brands for years and they do stay on.  Which means, there must be something in the way you did it that was faulty.  Why don't you list, step by step, what you did, what decals they are, what brand, what setting solution, etc.  Then maybe we can spot what went wrong.

Bob

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Decals GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !
Posted by C&O Fan on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:19 PM

They just won't stay on

I followed the instructions even used the setting solution

let them dry over night but when touched they fall off

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !

TerryinTexas

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http://conewriversubdivision.yolasite.com/

 

 

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