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Teen Model Railroad Place June 2009

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Posted by Packer on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:31 PM

So the WRS doesn't qualify for reduced costs on gensets?? (supposedly some RR's get them for free)

Here's the sound install:

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:37 PM

Nope! They're selling the 5817 and replacing it with a Genset. I expect them to make a small profit given the amount the 5817 will go for, and the cheap price they can get the Genset for. Increased Fuel Savings and PR because they're less environmentally unfriendly. Also 600 more horsepower than 5817!

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:15 PM

Packer
Joe, good luck on ditch lights. If you use indiviual bulbs for them what they are so that I can get some for beacons.

I was going to use Accurate Lighting part 144-29. Sorry, but good luck with the beacons anyway!

For 2201 (I might also order parts for 4100 while I'm at it), I'm going to add ditch lights, drop steps, snowplows, MU hoses, Nathan K5LAs, cab air conditioners, antennas, and all weather windows. I think that's everything, but if I'm leaving anything out, please let me know. I'm going to pass on details for 1300 since it's currently stored, and I'm not exactly sure about it's future (I'll either get a motor for it or just make it a display).

Atlas is coming out with NJT GP40s 4300-4303 (N scale ones came out a while ago), so I'll have to grab one (since NJT owns the line, they need some kind of MOW locos). Now if only someone could come out with a MP20B-3...Mischief
Also, anyone know when the Atlas 3GS-21Bs are coming out? I've seen the pre-production photos, but Atlas never put an official announcement with a date on their site.

Vincent: CSX just got a couple gensets for service in NJ paid for by some company (I forget exactly who, and I'm too lazy to look it up). The TSRy. one(s) will be paid for by the state in order to promote fewer emissionsBig Smile WOOO! Free gensets!

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:31 PM

 

Later this year I think, They usually do it a few months before they're due in.

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:48 PM

Schweet, thanks.

Also forgot to mention that I came down the shore today! YESSSS!Big Smile

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Posted by WCfan on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:56 PM

Well I have a new WIN scheme, what do you guys think of it?

Also what do you guys think of this slogan "Powering Wisconsin", Alex says it's blah, but idk, we'll see how you guys think.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:27 AM

Something about the stripe seems wierd to me, but I don't know. Maybe just because it's so early (I'm not even sure why I'm up!)Zzz
And I like the slogan, although it seems a lot like WSOR 4053...

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:04 AM

Jordan, I think it looks good, but it looks like it'd be kind of tricky to mask. "Route of the Packers" still sounds better!!

Joe, I don't think anyone will come out with an MP20B-3 anytime soon, it took 5 years for someone to come out with gensets after all. I'm still looking for a C636; I found something from a few years ago that said Tiger Valley Models was working on one. I Wonder if they are still in buisness and if so, do they have them available? That or wait for stewart (they have the C630 with the high-ad trucks), just change the shell a bit and they'll have it.

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:01 AM

A REAL White River Southern Railroad might qualify for government funds to buy a Genset... But the model WRS doesn't!

I do see at least a few of the old WRS units moving to partner roads, like MSRR and QNE. We'll see...

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:57 AM

TrainManTy
A REAL White River Southern Railroad might qualify for government funds to buy a Genset... But the model WRS doesn't!

TSRy does! The government that supplies the funds is called "Christmas"!Big Smile Or "a job."
I figure that if each state gov't (CT, NY, and NJ) each buy and/or chip in for one genset, than I can have one running in each state as a switcher unit! I can see it now:
"Introducing the Low-Emissions Genset Switching Locomotive (LEGS Loco): Keeping the Tri-State area from becoming even more intoxicated than it already is!" Laugh

In case you're wondering, yes, I'm in a good mood today.Smile

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Posted by AndyManCNR on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:10 AM

WCfan

Well I have a new WIN scheme, what do you guys think of it?

Also what do you guys think of this slogan "Powering Wisconsin", Alex says it's blah, but idk, we'll see how you guys think.

It's not bad, but DEFINATELY change the colours. The bright green and yellow don't exactly go together. I would suggest something a little more dull (not boring, just less bright) for the base colour. Of, course if you change the base, you may have to change the stripe colour accordingly. Perhaps a darker green?

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:45 AM

 But then they wouldn't be Lemon-Lime Twists!

http://www.pbase.com/tom_murray/image/113224908 

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Posted by AndyManCNR on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:04 PM

But if they were lemon-lime twists you would probably end up with a headache after two minutes of operation.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:06 PM

 Its too late anyways... Decals have already been produced for the SD45s.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:32 PM

IDK, I like the Lemon-Lime Twist...

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:37 PM

It is suppose to be a BN Cascade green, but the BN locomotive darwing I used for the color was a brighter version of the color. I try a more true Cascade Green on the next locomotives I paint.

I kinda like the darker green. What do you guys think?

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:22 PM

 It matches the decals better... And looks spiffier. Now I just need a pair of SD45s...


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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:48 PM

Jordan, the new scheme looks a bit better.

GG, I have 3 (okay, one's an F45) but I ain't selling them. Trainworld has P2K SD45s for $30 bucks. A steal for an engine that runs as good or better than atlas, and can pull over 100 cars. IIRC, they weight 24.8 ounces, or over 1.5 pounds.

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:34 PM

 Yeah, I'm hoping they are still available. Maybe I can work out a deal with Yoshi. I have the decals, and paint, just need the locos. My hope is to finish them by Hartford, so I can run a set of EPIC WINs and have everyone be like "oh he's so cool!" Tongue

I'll keep thinking that.

ANYWAYS...

I need to strip the LV RS3, and the CCRR S4, and paint the RS3 into RS3, and the CCRR into better CCRR paint.

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:57 PM

Your painting that Lehigh Valley RS3 into a Lamoille Valley RS3, right? I dunno how you can paint an RS3 into an RS3??? Regarding those SD45s, best bet is to call them and find out. If they have any BNs left I may go and get another one and re-number it. *hint, hint*

hint, you did mention you were doing decal/paint work to raise some funds somewhere.

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:14 PM

I am, money is low. No longer doing body work because it takes too long. You know that first hand. I need to order another bottle of cascade green.

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:43 PM

Does re-numbering count as body work?

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:45 PM

Nope. Body work is modifications such as high hood conversions, or kitbashings.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:33 PM

Since you're talking about SD45s, it got me thinking...
I've always wanted a GP40PH-2, but didn't want to have to kitbash one. But then I realized how easy it is. So I'm thinking of kitbashing a GP40 (w/ dynamics) with a SD45 (all I need is the radiators, so I'll get a cheap one off ebay). Basically chop the flared radiators off the SD, and throw them on the geep, and it's done. 4218 would be nice to have...

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:35 PM

Or you could just buy a GP40X. Wink

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:52 PM

There's slight differences. I'm not a rivet counter, but I won't just buy a GP40X or GP40-2 and say "good enough." On my F40, I could have simply chopped off the rear platform, but instead, I decided to rebuild it the correct way (although I must admit to comprimising, which causes the quality to suffer).

And besides, I like kitbashing an modifying.Big Smile

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:55 PM
If you want to do it right, you'd need another GP40 shell and a way to lengthen the frame, because GP40s with HEP installed are 8ft longer.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:14 PM

GP40PH-2Bs are 62'5", only 3'3" longer. That will be one of the things I can compromise. Three feet in HO, is what, a quarter inch, if even that? And I'll need to add one more fan (3 rad, 1 DB, 1 HEP).
All this info is taken from a thread that I found on another forum (the info is legit, taken directly out of the loco's ops manual).

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:19 PM

That's still half an inch...

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:29 PM

That's still close enough (for me, anyway)...Big Smile

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