The Coffee Shop (a place to chat) Est. 2004

[Fergmiester]

Hey Teffy

No the bridge is scratch except the arch and rollers which is from a Heljan kit which I scrapped due to it being too small. I refuse to pay $200+ for a turntable kit. Believe it or not the bridge is easy it's composite bass wood/styrene and glued together with CA. The angle irons and I beams were purchased at the LHS. Plans? what Plans! And Yes I think swapping decals is a good thing. infact I might make a post on this.

Lupo

Glad to see you, Very nice photos and thanks for the info on the logo. I tried to refine them but I found Paintshop Pro 7 hateful to say the least. Everytime I increased the pixels I would get bad distortion. It just got too much for me to refine. So I'm going to look for Corel

Engineer Bob

[#welcome] to our motly crew

[Hawks05]

good evening everyone.

i didn't get a chance to work on any of the model railroad stuff today. i was getting ready to wash my car this afternoon and heard a whistle so i ran inside, grabbed the camera, and i was off to find the train. i went up by the baseball field where i knew i could get some good shots, but i waited for 10 minutes and it was coming at all. so i decided to go down by the first intersection in town that it would cross, as i was going over the tracks i looked to my left and saw it. i parked my car, got out and went to the other side of the tracks to talk with some guy who was also taking pictures. the locomotives went by and he then told me it was a 126 car train, and my car was on the other side of the tracks. so i waited a good 20-25 minutes as this passed through. once it was all done i wanted to try and catch it again while it was going under a bridge, one thing i didn't figure was how far the traffic would be backed up. needless to say i didn't get to the bridge, but i almost got pulled over. a old guy let me on to the highway through town and i procceed onto another highway to catch the train, its only 35MPH going east and i was doing about 65-70 trying to catch this thing. i saw 2 cops parked in a lot and slowed down a lot. i ended up going to the next town 3 miles away and going about a mile out of that town to a intersection where i snapped a few more pictures.

so basically that took up about an hour of my afternoon. i got home and washed my car then and put the pictures onto the comptuer.

right now i'm trying to create a website for the pictures. hopefully i'll get a few pictures up yet tonight.

[philnrunt]

Ed- I disagree, those pix are great! You could illustrate my book anytime. Looks like you had fine weather and great lighting. Good job, glad to see the pix.
krump- I'm not a hunter either, went deer hunting in Mich along time ago, spent time whittling, eating, drinking and shooting the breeze, but never fired a shot at a deer, and I didn't feel the least bit bad about it. Had a great time.I forget at times how guns carry so much baggage with them. To me, they are a tool, like a hammer, until human intent is thrown in, they are inert lumps of steel. Or plastic, these days.
Noah- I can't wait to see the finished TC. It's got to look great, as the photos of the pieces were pretty impressive. You do good work. Keep it up, and we'll give you a few days until we start screaming to hear about your next project.
Just e-mailed Bill, hope to hear back from him soon. I'll pass on any news.
Tom- My dad served with Chesty on Pelilu. Dad was a combat engineer detached to the 1st MarDiv, and did his dirty work on the left side of the beach with Chesty, and later won the Navy Cross at the airfield on that island. I have a letter from Chesty to dad talking about some snafu in dad's records. My step mom danced with Chesty and Sgt Vouza of the Phillipine Army. Both are bigger than life to me. And of course, I am very proud of my dad.
I'm going to post a heads up ref homeland security that everybody that railfans shoud glance at.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Hawks05

good evening everyone.

but i almost got pulled over. a old guy let me on to the highway through town and i procceed onto another highway to catch the train, its only 35MPH going east and i was doing about 65-70 trying to catch this thing. i saw 2 cops parked in a lot and slowed down a lot.

Jim [:)]

I am glad to hear you got some pics and of course we all want to see them. [:p] [:D]

But please for your own safety slow down and be careful. We don't want to hear of you being in a wreck and getting hurt (or worse) and you certainly would't want to hurt anyone else. I have been a volunteer on steam excursions and I know how crazy people drive trying to pace the train. People are crazy enough without a train around, then add the railfans (some are careful some are not) and it just makes matters even worse. Please don't risk hurting yourself or others. There will be other days and other trains, but there is only one you.

[Anonymous]

Jim [:D]

"It's me again Martha", said Jim doing his best Ray Stevens. [:D] [;)] [:D]

You and I have several things in common. [:0] [;)]


1) We both like trains. [^]

2) We both share the same name/nic [:)]

3) We both have a pizza background. [:p]

I have worked in more than one restaurant and have done everything from busboy to manager. I was an assistant manager at Pizza Inn and I worked one week as a manager trainee for Pizza Hut. (Pizza Hut needed a much better training program than "here are the keys, bye.")

Yes, I do like pizza again, but after about 3 months at Pizza Inn I began to really like the salad bar. [;)] Pizza is GREAT once a week, but not every day. [B)] [:0] [:p]



Ed [:D]

I think the pics are super. I can't wait to see more. Thanks for posting the ones you have posted and we can't wait to see more of them. [:D]


About the "whole 9 yards", the story I have heard more than once was about the length of the machine gun belts for aircraft.

And the brass monkey story I have heard more than once also. The most recent one sure made sense. But I am not a sailor and must trust the voice of experience.

I just happened to find the negatives for the Coast Guard ship. I guess I forgot to give them back to my buddy. [B)] [:0] [:(] BUT that does mean that I can go get them blow up and see if Nora will "host" them. One of the ex Navy guys at work said that the gun might be a 5 incher. Oh my, now we are talking about throwing some cold steel here. Sorry but I don't have a dummy for one of them either. I imagine if I did that I would have to get out the measuring tape to measure it. [;)] Does anybody know the length and weight of a 5 incher's shells?

[tomwatkins]

Good Mornin' Everybody,
It's going to be another beautiful day in the North Georgia mountains. The coffe is very good this morning. Louise just went out the door to work and I've got a little while before I need to turn to on the day's chores. A milestone was reached yesterday afternoon. All the ties are painted on the mainline, sidings and spurs. I've still got to install the track for the Graham County RR's interchange yard and the line going out to staging. That won't take long. Running trains over a completed mainline last night was a lot of fun.

Jim (Hawkes05) Yes, please slow down and be careful. There will be lots of trains and lots of time to photograph them. There is only one you. It's really not worth the risk of getting hurt or of hurting someone else..

Ed, yes, I use 3 different mixes which differ just enough to be noticeable. I usually put a base coat of one on every tie then go back with the other 2 colors and pick them out at random. Just pulling the loaded brush across the top of the tie is sufficient.

YNCS, All three versions on the whole 9 yards are believable. I wonder though if the ones about cement or cloth are memorable enough to have made it into the common vernacular. I don't know. I think you're absolutely right about the cannon balls though. A problem like that, if it was allowed to happen, would have been solved real quick.

Phil, Chesty Puller long ago reached legendary status, and deservedly so. As did the men who served under him. My Senior Drill Instructor was in 1st Marines at Choesin Reservoir. In my first real job after I got out and went back to school, I worked with a man who was very competent, never got ruffled or flustered about anything. He was in all respects a gentleman. We'd worked together for several years before I found out that he'd won a battlefield commission on Guadalcanal with 7th Marines. He never bragged or tried to impress anyone. He had no need for that, none of those men do.

Well folks, that's enough of that for this morning. It's time to get going.
Have a great day everybody,
Tom

[Anonymous]

i had a great time yesterday, my freind has an awesome N scale layout, the amazing thing is he's not done with it, I spent some of the afternoon running trains down there, he has some nice NS, CR, Amtrak, and BNSF (more BNSF than anything else) locos, now I want to go to the Twin Cities and Rochelle after seeing his videos from railfan trips there!

[Anonymous]

Noah, found this new car on train-sim

http://www.train-sim.com/cgi/zview?cm=view&fn=0/wsor3081.zip&an=WSOR3801/WSOR503081.jpg

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

I just happened to find the negatives for the Coast Guard ship. I guess I forgot to give them back to my buddy. [B)] [:0] [:(] BUT that does mean that I can go get them blow up and see if Nora will "host" them. One of the ex Navy guys at work said that the gun might be a 5 incher. Oh my, now we are talking about throwing some cold steel here. Sorry but I don't have a dummy for one of them either. I imagine if I did that I would have to get out the measuring tape to measure it. [;)] Does anybody know the length and weight of a 5 incher's shells?

If it's in an enclosed turret, it's probably either a 5"/54 or a 76mm. I don't think there are any 3" guns left.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

I just happened to find the negatives for the Coast Guard ship. I guess I forgot to give them back to my buddy. [B)] [:0] [:(] BUT that does mean that I can go get them blow up and see if Nora will "host" them. One of the ex Navy guys at work said that the gun might be a 5 incher. Oh my, now we are talking about throwing some cold steel here. Sorry but I don't have a dummy for one of them either. I imagine if I did that I would have to get out the measuring tape to measure it. [;)] Does anybody know the length and weight of a 5 incher's shells?

If it's in an enclosed turret, it's probably either a 5"/54 or a 76mm. I don't think there are any 3" guns left.

In a day or two I will run the negatives down to the photo shop and get them enlarged. Then we can see the number of the ship and check into its history. [;)]

I don't have time to do it today.

[Fergmiester]

Good News (of a sort)

I just an e-mail back from Snake aka Dave and it sounds like he's on the mend. As he told me he's been having some family related issues with his Mother's death and all, which have taken priority. I would say he misses us so maybe some of you could drop him a line and get him to join in our motly bunch once again I think it might be what the Doc ordered.

Not much else is on the go today except it decided to get sunny and warm.
What to BBQ tonight?

Regards

Fergie

[Hawks05]

thanks for worrying about my driving. i don't think i was going anywhere close to 70, probably 50-60. the speed limit after about a mile is 55 so i wasn't doing that bad. going up the dirt road to the baseball field, 50 is the norm for us players. the great thing about living in a small town like this is there aren't many railfans so i don't have to worry about a lot of people, just trying to get onto the main highway through town after a train goes through can be a nightmare.

Jim- the other one- i've worked at this pizza joint for almost a year, actually 11 months or so. i really enjoyed the free pizza every time i worked but after awhile it got really sickening. now i switch it up between spaghetti and pizza, with garlic toast no matter what.

if you want to see the beginnings of my website go to:

http://www.freewebs.com/jimstrains

so far i just have the locomotives up. if you know of any site where i can find the listing of each and the type that would be great, like a roster. i'm new to the types so i don't have those on there yet.

[Anonymous]

Noah,

I am scratchbuilding the oil bunker and adding it onto a engine tender that has a coal bunker right now. I have drawings and measurements for it, this week when I go to the LHS I'll get styrene and wire for the handrails and grabs.

[Anonymous]

Noah, here a photo of a engine with the same oil bunker I'm going to build:



If you click on the photo, it looks better.

AS you can see it's on a USRA mikado coal tender, the CB&Q modified this and a few other implements on the engine when they were delivered to the railroad.

[Noah Hofrichter]

Dougal, Thanks for the Link, I'll have to go download that. It's one of three 9/11 commemerative cars the WSOR did.

Jim (Hawks) nice website! I'm waiting for my conformation from trainweb.org for my Website, so i can post photo's without having to ahve other members host them for me.

Chris, That should be cool when done, keep us posted on how your comming.

It's decalling Day, and I'm almost done with one set of reporting marks on one side. I ahve to use an alhpa bet set, so it becomes tireing after a while. I want to have one side and one end decaled by tonight, and then the other side and end done tomarrow. I've got to work on that now, so I'll see you all later.

Noah

[Hawks05]

good afternoon everyone. hopefully all the working people are enjoying a great monday at work.

i just got done adding the best looking pictures of freight cars to my website and i had to re add all the locomotive pictures because they some how got deleted when i edited the title of the paragraph. its getting frustrating though because i keep editing stuff and then the computer will slow down and won't send me back to the proper screen and therefore what i just did isn't on the page.

i'm just sitting around basically today waiting to hear a whistle and go take pictures. i'm hoping later tonight though a "Z" train will come through. i had to fix the camera to. i tried deleting pictures i didn't need but it kept telling me i couldn't because there wasn't enough disc space, so i had to re-format the disc and now it works.

[Noah Hofrichter]

What's a "Z" train, haven't heard of that one before.

Noah

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Noah Hofrichter

What's a "Z" train, haven't heard of that one before.

Noah

I'm prety sure its the highest priority BNSF Intermodel.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

I knew you would turn up here Lupo. Congrats on your 4th star.[bday] This is the new home for this kind of stuff, instead of taking new topics.[;)]

Oh, and don't forget to post photos if you got em.[swg]

Please don't get down on Bergie for closing DOS. That was sort of the wrong place for this kind of stuff, as it started as a serious topic. This is what we really want and need, and there is no reason to close it, since I really don't expect anyone to abuse it, like was happening on DOS.

Hi may i join[soapbox]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

And the brass monkey story I have heard more than once also. The most recent one sure made sense. But I am not a sailor and must trust the voice of experience.

Jim,

I'm sorry if I was a little rude in my comments on the brass monkey. It's just that I've heard that story so many times and had to debunk it every time that it seems I've spent half my time telling people that the brass monkey story isn't true.

Upon rereading my post on the brass monkey, I see I missed one of the strongest arguments against the story. In both the U.S. and Royal Navies, cannon ball racks were not called "brass monkeys" or even "monkeys." They were called "ball racks."

Again, my apologies.

Peter

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

QUOTE: Originally posted by Noah Hofrichter

What's a "Z" train, haven't heard of that one before.

Noah

I'm prety sure its the highest priority BNSF Intermodel.

It is the smallet scale train
ICE-Ttrain
john

[Anonymous]

To make up for ruining a good story, here's another piece of military trivia.

tank, n. 1. A vessel or cistern used for holding liquids.
2. An armored fighting vehicle, armed with a cannon.

You might think that definition 1. has nothing to do with definition 2., but you'd be wrong. During World War I, getting potable water to the front trenches was a major problem. Pipes couldn't be laid, because shelling would break the pipes. So every drop of drinking water had to be carried by either men or horses. Water is heavy, a gallon weighs 8 pounds, or if you're metricly inclined, a liter weighs a kilogram, and soldiers needed at least one gallon/4 liters each day for drinking, cooking and (minimal) washing.

When the British were developing armored (or armoured) fighting vehicles (AFVs) in 1915, they came up with a cover story that they were working on self-propelled water tanks to bring water to the trenches. Everyone was told to refer to AFVs as "tanks." As it happens, the Germans heard the cover story and had no trouble believing it, because they had the same problem of providing water to the front lines. The cover story was so pervasive that even after AFVs were introduced in combat, they continued to be called "tanks." So when you hear about tanks today, you are hearing the perpetuation of a piece of 90 year old deception.

[Hawks05]

the "Z" train is a UP loco with a bunch to tractor trailers. at least thats what it looks like from pictures i've seen. ask Big_Boy, he's the one that told me about it. i just know it comes through town here between 7 and 8 at night so i'll try and find that tonight.

it was a pretty boring day, i was expecting to hear a train come through town, but none did. now i just have tonight to look forward to.

[Anonymous]

Just remembered that both UP and BNSF call some of their stack trains "Z trains".

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ICETtrainman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

QUOTE: Originally posted by Noah Hofrichter

What's a "Z" train, haven't heard of that one before.

Noah

I'm prety sure its the highest priority BNSF Intermodel.

It is the smallet scale train
ICE-Ttrain
john

He's talking about a prototype train.

[Anonymous]

Hi everyone. My name's Wedge, I thought I'd stop in for a donut and to introduce myself. How's everyone doin'? Hows life in the model railroad world?
I'll see everyone later.

[Anonymous]

Looks like I'll be going railfanning in Harrisburg soon (this will be my 4th visit), along with that and my 9th Altoona trip this should be a great way to fini***he summer. [:)]

[Anonymous]

Looks like I'll be going railfanning in Harrisburg soon (this will be my 4th visit), along with that and my 9th Altoona trip this should be a great way to fini***he summer. [:)]

[Hawks05]

well i ended up catching that Triple Crown train tonight. none of my pictures of the locomotive turned up well. i mean none. i'd click the button to take them then when the screen goes black and a picture would pop up i'd look, here you have to wait and wait because right after the screen goes black is when the picture is taken. i guess this is something to remember as all the pics of the locomotive were pretty crappy. i didn't get one shot of the numbers at all. i got the first two numbers but nothing more.

guess i'll have to wait till tomorrow night to catch it again.

[Fergmiester]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ICETtrainman

Hi may i join[soapbox]