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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:19 AM
pcarrell

jeffrey-wimberly
......Bachmann GP40 that I bought new in 1977. Since then it's been completely rebuilt, has new trucks and wheels, new motor and a more modern shell but it still has the same frame - minus the parts I cut off to mount the new motor.

So, you lifted the radiator cap and drove a new car under it, so to speak?  I'm gonna say that it isn't a Bmann GP40 any more.  It's a Frankenstein, no two ways about it.  GP40, sure.....Bmann, no way.

 

 

PC-remotoring? retrucking?Confused----and yet it is still a GP40?Smile,Wink, & Grin Didn't the remotored Geeps get different 'names' then?------I'm going to say GP40-JW.Approve As in Jeff Wimberley, so there, HARRRUUMPH!!Smile,Wink, & GrinWhistling

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Posted by Cox 47 on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:26 PM

Afternoon all....Its cloudy,damp ana down right cold 44 here but posta hit the low 80's by week-end...I got a hollow leg seems like today a couple of cheese burgers,onion rings and a diet coke...Oh and a slice of that Pecan pie with a couple of scoops of ice cream please...Thank You.....Spent most of day yesterday getting printer working then down loaded a "freebee" paper building...I got walls cut out and glued together..It had been a long time since I worked with cardstock and paper and I had forgotten how easy they are to work with..I could see more modelers come back to this kind of construction with times being what they are...

Jeff...I like the shed in front of B-man GP 40..Is it a kit..or scatched?...Tell us about it...

Corey...Your Bridges and Trestle look great thanks for photos keep them coming...

You all have a good one...Jerry

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:37 PM
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So, you lifted the radiator cap and drove a new car under it, so to speak?  I'm gonna say that it isn't a Bmann GP40 any more.  It's a Frankenstein, no two ways about it.  GP40, sure.....Bmann, no way.

 

 

PC-remotoring? retrucking?Confused----and yet it is still a GP40?Smile,Wink, & Grin Didn't the remotored Geeps get different 'names' then?------I'm going to say GP40-JW.Approve As in Jeff Wimberley, so there, HARRRUUMPH!!Smile,Wink, & GrinWhistling


I have a BIL that built a Burro Bike that sounded like that.  There wasn't more than two parts on that thing that came from the same manufacturer.....

My Son in Chicago sent me another e-mail forwarded from My FILs SIL (the last person from that generation. She is well into her 80s).  She scanned in a photo she had of the Pietenpol Air Camper.  Just thought I would share one more with you.  This photo was taken at the Canandaigua Airport where Barney kept his planes.

Not long after that photo was taken the plane was damaged during a hard landing.  Barney traded the plane to one of his best friends for a Piper Cub.  He was flying the Cub when I was first married to his daughter.  Every Sunday if the wind was calm, he would fly out to where we lived in a trailer across the road from my parents house on the farm.  We would hear, "Putt, putt, putt, putt, putt, putt, putt, putt,".  We would go outside to see Barney circling the property about 40 or 50 feet off the ground at just above stall speed.  Doors open (he was claustrophobic) with cigar in hand.  We would wave, he would dip the wing and wave, complete that circle, the engine would rev up and he would fly back to Canandaigua.....  Those were good days!

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:05 PM

Ray, it sounds like you're having fun researching your family.  History is so much fun when you have a connection to it.  I have felt the same way about my home town. 

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Posted by Packer on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:14 PM

nik n, I haven't found a use for spent brass either. I thinkingg the 40mm and maybe the 30mm ones could be made into (rather large) storage tanks, and the .45 ones could be used for large barrels. I do know that .50 cal bullets make good weights for cars.

Corey and Ray, I've done some research after I found something while playing one of those pocket trivia games:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Woodhull
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Claflin
I got extra credit from a female history teacher for that...

Barry, a W in a loco's designation would mean it has a wide nose like GP38-2Ws and SD40-2Ws. Maybe GP40J, he has a GP30J after all.. What would my Athearn GP35 be then? It has a Buhler can motor (what stewarts and bowsers have), P2K trucks, Atlas fans, Coupler cut levers from a P2K SD9, and some detail parts from P2K GP30s.

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Posted by MadSinger on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:53 PM

Afternoon,

I have heard of people using .50 cal bullets for car weights; just make sure they're secured somehow, or they'll go rolling all over.

The layout pictures of the valley look nice, Corey.  Should turn out really nicely.

I'm interested in local history myself, and know a lot the towns I've lived in.  It is nice when you have a connection to it.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:05 PM

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Jeff...I like the shed in front of B-man GP 40..Is it a kit..or scatched?...Tell us about it...

That shed is 100% paper (card stock). I built two of them a couple of years ago.


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Posted by Cederstrand on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:35 PM

Pepperoni Pizza, please.  

***Corey, excellent progress!Thumbs Up Looking forward to seeing how it progresses.

***Vincent, is it a requirement that model train cars carrying .50 cal bullets exhibit "Dangerous Material" signs on them?

***Jeffrey, your 100% card stock shed is AMAZING!Thumbs Up

Do you folks think the WS municipal building would make a good small town hospital? Wife said she would move the canon & flag to a small park setting.

After a quick hay round to the back pasture, finishing digging & setting the posts for the garden, and a little studio time, I finally made it into the train room. Everything worked on was for wife's HO layout. Will be easier to post a pic later, than try to describe everything. Much accomplished.

Hope everyone is having a nice evening.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:37 PM

 Ray: I found out a few years ago that I'm related to the men who pulled off the first peacetime train robbery in the US. The Reno brothers robbed their first train just outside Seymour Indiana. Three gang members, John Reno, Sim Reno, and Frank Sparkes boarded an Ohio and Mississippi Railway train and broke into a safe containing about $16,000. They pushed a bigger safe out along the track where the rest of the gang was waiting but they failed to get it open. Stealing the safe would ultimately lead to the downfall of the gang. The contents were insured by the Adams Express Company which hired the Pinkerton Detective Agency to capture the gang. John Reno was arrested by Pinkerton agents after the Daviess County Courthouse in Gallatin, Missouri was robbed., and sentenced to 25 years in the Missouri State Penitentiary in 1868. He was released in 1878. He returned to Seymour in 1886, but was again sent to prison, this time for counterfeiting. He was the only one of the four brothers who was not executed.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:49 PM

Rob-I'd say yes to that building being the hospital. It fits the general look and feel of a General Hospital.Smile,Wink, & Grin

Packer- Well---ok but it still looks like a JW----MischiefWhistling

I'm doing things a little differently tonight--I just got home so everything will be a bit muddled up.Ray, I'm still trying to find that ding photo of the plane at Woodstock Flying Club---this was taken sometime in the early 60's----ConfusedWhistling

Chloe--I'll have a 36oz Ribeye Steak with fried Mushrooms on top and the fixins' as well. And a large RBF please. I'm going to the window booth to watch some switching going on----DinnerWhistling

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Posted by Packer on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:54 PM

Ray, maybe, It's lead after all. If it were the AP version, it might need a radiation warning sign on it.

In my search for info on kitbashing a stewart C630 into a C636 or an elusive brass model of one (that's correct for an SP&S/BN one) I came a post in another forum saying that Tiger Valley Models was working on a C636 that is near completion from 2005. I'm trying to figure out if this is true or not, and if there is a way to get ahold of the company for a catalog to see how much it is. Odds are the kit would probably be cheaper than a kitbash and the brass model.

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:44 PM

jeffrey-wimberly
Ray: I found out a few years ago that I'm related to the men who pulled off the first peacetime train robbery in the US. The Reno brothers robbed their first train just outside Seymour Indiana.

 

Hmmmmmm.  Well that explains a lot............ WhistlingSmile,Wink, & Grin   Interesting stuff!  I am wondering what kind of stuff my son Matt has come up with about my side of the family.  I know that both the Howard's and the Robinson's (my Grandmother's family) were (are) part of the Scottish Dunn Clan (sometimes refered to as the Scottish Mafia). 

Rob, I think that building would do very well as a Community Hospital. Don't forget to put a funeral home or a graveyard across the street.  (I know prototypes for both.....)

Barry hope you find that photo.  It would blow my mind if it turned out to be the same plane....  Barney did fly out to the midwest for breakfast "flyins" for many years.  I don't know if he or the guy that ended up with the plane ever went into Canada with it. 

Have managed to spend the whole day getting nothing accomplished.... I think I am going to do some odds and ends on the layout.  I am waiting to hear from a guy who has some extensive knowledge of the N.Y.O.&W.   I sent an email to Harold Russell the district AP chair asking if he knew anything about the colors that the O&W painted their Semaphore Signal poles.  He sent it on to another guy.......

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:18 PM

Cederstrand
***Jeffrey, your 100% card stock shed is AMAZING!Thumbs Up

Here'a the other one on the east side of the layout.


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Posted by grayfox1119 on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:25 PM

 Good evening, been a few days since I dropped into the Diner, too much work outside still cleaning up the big mess from the early December ice storm. I actually burned out my chain saw can you believe it? It was a Husqvarna model 362XP with an 18" bar. The crank shaft bearing lost a few bearings. I don't know how it happened, these are good saws, I use 93 octane fuel to cut with oil as recommended by the manufacturer and the guy that does all my repairs. The new saw is a Husqvarna model 359 with 18" bar. It has been working for days now and performs very well. They gave me a trade in for the old saw so it cost me $380 for the new saw complete with new chain and bar.

The fun comes in a couple of days when I have to cut down a triple leaner. A huge oak tree is partially uprooted from the ice storm, and it is leaning into two 100 foot pine trees, widow makers for sure, but they are too dangerous to leave standing.

I wish I could say the same for this 70 year old bod.

Needless to say, not much MRR work is being done until this clean up is done. I am trying to get one more burn done before the end of burning season, which is April 30th here.

As if things were not bad enough with equipment failures, my old Wheel Horse lawn tractor, circa 1980, decided to join the ranks of equipment failures. The starter motor gave up the ghost, as well as the clutch. The clutch problem turned out to be a broken pin in the petal shaft. I was able to do all the repairs myself, so the only cost was parts, that was bad enough. I have applied for a STIMULUS package from the Obama administration.

RAY: You must be near Bully Hill Winery! How about sending a 19,000 gallon tanker of wine east on the CSX main line out of Mechanicsville, NYI really need some R&R each night after 8 hours of cutting down trees, cutting them up to 18" lengths, splitting the logs and stacking, and then hauling all the tailings and branches up to the burn pile.

JERRY: PECAN PIE ???!!! Are you kidding me???? You keep eating those mega-calorie pies and you are going to look like a blimp !! LOL

For those looking for Ed, he is headed from Texas up to Newfoundland, something about looking for Fergie on Icebergs.

Later guys,

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:53 PM
I SCORED FROM PAST MIDFIELD (our dside, so OVER half the soccer field)!!!!!!!! We lsot 2-1 though. I've always wanted to score like that!

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Posted by CNCharlie on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:59 PM

Good Evening Diners,

It's been a week or so since I was last in but I have at least managed to skim the posts. Sure has been a busy spot.

Hopefully Jim won't fling a pie at me for my critique of his track plan. It does look like a good one. I had hoped to be able to do an around the room myself but as that won't happen I'm starting to dabble in N.

I'm very tired tonight as my company just finished the spring market where we showcase fall, winter and Christmas goods to our stores. It is somewhat depressing to be looking at Christmas decorations, trees, snowblowers, etc. considering the snow just melted a week ago. I really don't have that much to do at the show as I'm on the finance side of things but I have to be there which means a lot of time on my feet.

Interesting discussion on family history in here. In my case my mother's parents were both born and raised in the U.S. One in Minnesota and the other in Chicago. On my grandfather's side my sister has traced the family back to the Revolution and apparently can join a group called Daughters of the Revolution.  She has just 2 links to verify to belong to the Mayflower Society which she tells me has a membership of several million which is amazing considering how few were on that ship.

The flood is still going on up here. If you do a google search you can find ariel views of the new lake which I read today is 1600 sq. km. or about 900 sq. miles. It was over 10 miles wide a couple of weeks ago. It gets so big as the terrain here is absolutely flat.

Have to go as Pippa is at the door. If I don't go out with her she'll be in the flower beds and muddy paws mean a trip to the bathtub.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:59 PM

 Dick: Good luck on that triple leaner. Those can be BAD news! Don't ask how I know.

Been working on the layout today. The foundation walls for the north engine house are shaping up.


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Posted by CNCharlie on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:03 PM

Top of the page for me so order up and Chloe put Barry's steak on my tab. Anyone that can order such a monster, never mind eat it deserves the utmost in respect.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:12 PM

Packers#1
I SCORED FROM PAST MIDFIELD (our dside, so OVER half the soccer field)!!!!!!!! We lsot 2-1 though. I've always wanted to score like that!

 

That is jackhammering the ball!! Good work!!Smile,Wink, & Grin

Audrey's family has some ancesters that were on the second ship after the Mayflower--(Ellory) on her mothers side. Fathers side came to Canada from Britian in the 18th cent. Mine had fathers side having had toy mfgrs---we're still digging around the Gebruder Arnold connection as well as about 4 others(yeeesh) as well as a few in European Drama---one is a theatre director of one sort or another. On mothers side---landed and titled gentry and robber barons---lots of interesting things coming out'n these storiesPirateSmile,Wink, & GrinWhistling

 

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:27 PM

Speaking about family history, mine is interesting to research.  There's even a website for the Willard family association.  Apparently, my ancestors came to New England from Kent, England in 1634.  One of them founded Concord I believe.  The Willard hotel, that's them as well.  I've even had a family member burned at the stake in the Salem witch trials.  I guess you can go all the way back to the 1400's.  Strange huh?  There's all kinds of interesting things like one of them baptizing Benjamin Franklin.  I'm not sure about that one. I don't remember where I read that.

 Anyway carry on!

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Posted by nik .n on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:09 PM

Hot tea, Chloe.

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Hey Jeff, Does your GP40 have a grudge with that f unit?  Its leaning waaaaaaaaaaaaay over.Wink

Hey PACKERMy Uncle polices the brass at a military shooting range, so I'll ask him for some 5.56x45mm NATO, .50 BMG, .45 ACP, and some more interesting ones.Tongue

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Posted by Hoople on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:21 AM

Oh yeah, .50 BMG for the win. Gotta love the Barrett M82A1... That's a big gun. Think you could get some NATO belts for a SAW?

Lol, I don't actually have any real guns. I've got a couple airsoft guns, that shoot little plastic BB's... They hurt decently enough, especially my M4 and my M249... I enjoy that sport. I'm captain of the reconnaissance squadron of my airsoft team.

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Posted by TMarsh on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:33 AM

Mornin' In honor of this being Wednesday, I'll have Eggs Benedict please. And some coffee Thank you.

Have a great day

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:38 AM

Good Morning---We're only at 2C and raining hard---yeeeshGrumpyS'posed to get to the mighty high of 4CSighWhistling---No client visits today so think I'll try to get some cleaning up of trainroom done so that I can THINK of expanding layout---HeeheeheeMischief

Mark--the only piece I've ever had was an old 16 gauge double barrel shotgun. If I ever got another one up here that would be it--I'm scary enough with a dang machete let alone guns----Smile,Wink, & GrinWhistling

Chloe--I'll have a coffee and toast this morn--please---I'll be at the back with Mark---watching the morning wake upSmile,Wink, & Grin

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Posted by LSWrr on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:41 AM
Good morning all,

.40mm shells might be good storage tanks for N-visible scale, I have a couple on my shelf here.  I picked up some assorted buck shot to weigh down some of my hopper cars.   I bet those depleted uranium rounds would make really good weights (just kidding).



The Broadway Limited Blue Line PRR T-1 arrived in fine shape yesterday. The unit weighs almost 2 pounds as it is built like an older Mantua steam locomotive, but the detail work is very nice.  It has more sounds than my DT400 R has buttons.  If you increase speed the locomotive switches to “steam under load” and the steam booster sound kicks in until the locomotive speed stabilizes.  If you reduce speed in a hurry you can hear the breaks squealing.  If you change locomotive direction there is a slight pause as the sound of the Johnson bar is thrown. DC w/Sound / DCC Ready.  Well I see how they do this now; there is a DCC decoder and a sound only decoder in the locomotive.  When you install a DCC decoder you issue the sound decoder and the DCC (motor) decoder the same address.  It looks like I need to install the drive wheels and shaft to power the front 4 drivers.  I’ll look into this and let you know.


I tried my hand at making movies; one out of 5 came out ok.  I’ll try to post some movies to my web site this weekend.
 


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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:45 AM

nik .n
Hey Jeff, Does your GP40 have a grudge with that f unit?  Its leaning waaaaaaaaaaaaay over.Wink

No. At the moment there's no support under one side of the track the GP40 is on. That's why it's leaning.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:29 AM

 Good morning.

It's 55 and clear. Weather guesser says it's gonna be 85 and clear today. We'll see.

Got more work done on the layout yesterday. Part of that was to change out the lights in the Belvedere hotel. They were a mite too bright! In fact it looked like aliens were attempting to beam in. And no wonder. I had put in bulbs rated at 3.5 volts. I pulled them out and put in new bulbs rated at 6 volts. Now the hotel looks normal. I also reworked the track in the north engine house so the tracks are side by side instead of one being at an angle. This has resulted in one of the track sections having no support on one side. I'll have to put a shim under that section. Either that or market the loco parked there as the leaning GP40 of Knutsville. I also started work on the brick foundation walls of the engine house. Nothing special there. The walls are just pieces of foam poster board with a printed brick pattern glued to them. One side came out alright but other side needs some work still. The engine house already looks much better. It had been sitting on some blocks of foam pushed under the corners for a couple of years simply because I hadn't had time to get to it. No plans set for working outside yet. Went down and looked at my parents yard yesterday. It's still too wet to mow. I'll give a couple more days to dry out then I'm mowing it whether it's ready or not. If I don't it'll be too thick and be really messy.

Today's Weather for:
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      4/22/2009


Wind Chill 59°F
Humidity88%
Dew Point55°F

So Far Today
High 61°F
Low55°F
Rain0.00"
Rain Rate0.00"/h
Gust0mph NNE

We're still under flood warning here.

Today  High: 85    Sunny. Areas of fog early in the morning. Highs in the mid 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.

Tonight  Low: 58    Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.


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Posted by Cox 47 on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:43 AM

Good Morning All...Its sunny and 47 here posta hit the mid 60's...I'll have coffee and a sweet roll please...Thank You..I worked on paper building yesterday..Got in finished except putting the front on and also worked on a B-man caboose that I am filling and opening new windows in to match IC's..Sliced my finger open with Xacto knife...You all have a good one...Jerry

ILLinois and Southern...Serving the Coal belt of southern Illinois with a Smile...
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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:47 AM

Morning all, just a B&G for me.

Mark, I only have a G3 and an M4 that don't work right. Is your M249 the really expensive (close to $600) one?

Nik .N, put in front of the address, and at the end of it.

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:11 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe I'll have a bowl of Raisin Bran Cereal and a cup of dark roast in a FGLK Mug.  Please and Thank You.  I'll be in the back yakking with Barry and trying to stay warm.  

Currently 48°F here in the Finger Lakes, the hgh for the day.  Back down into the 30s for tonight.  I may light the wood stove and burn up some scraps that are laying around.  Good way to clean up where i stack the wood pile for the winter.  Then I can get to work on the pile for next year.

Jeffrey that park is looking really good!

Jerry........... OUCH!  That hurts just reading about it!  Sliced my fingers a few times myself over the years.

Looks like another day I can get some modeling done.  Have a SciTek Committee meeting late this afternoon, but that should only take about an hour. 

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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