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Posted by loathar on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:46 PM

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To be honest I really don't find the host all that annoying. In his defense there's a good chance he acts the way he does because he probably has some producer or something in his ear feeding him directions and in the biz when the producer tells you to jump you don't say "How high?" you make like a kangaroo and be the bouncinest sonofagun that ever bounced.

 

Matt's good when he's "on script". He explains things well. It's the Batman like BOOM! SPLAT! BAMS! that get annoying. But this latest show seemed to have a lot less of that.
I WILL say I have definitely learned a few new things from each episode.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:10 PM

 

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 That is such a great show, to bad I missed the first one about coal trains.

You can download it free from itunes.com and play it on your computer with QuickTime.

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Posted by cooltech on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:46 PM

 

Last nights episode was very good. I live along the northeast corridor so there are many opportunities to see the Acela. Guess I should do some photo's as it crosses the Delaware river from Morrisvile Pa. to Trenton N.J. (or vica versa).

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Posted by Scarpia on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:26 PM

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Well lets see I may have a biased opinion buuuut here it goes anyways. 1. The 79mph downeaster as you say only applies to passenger trains not the freight trains he is the conductor of. The freight trains can only operate at the most of 40mph with a telematry receiver (which is rare enough) and thats only down past Portland Maine. And an afterthought is that he and I both operate where 25mph is fast for the condition of the tracks and the engines. 2. I head multiple times that he is loud and blah blah blah... Well you kinda have to be when all they have is that stupid mike hovering over your head and not the mike that is hidden under the collar of your shirt. If any of the brainiacs that are complaining about it noticed when he was inside he was normal voiced not yelling over the engines. 3. I heard alot of guff about the dialog... Have any of you people heard of editing? You say something infront of the camera (Kidding or not) and the editors can and will put it in whether you were joking or not. Not only that they can put it in wherever they want to. So if he said "choo-choo" once in a cut to make people laugh (Which I know is beyond most people, but he is really funny in real life) then they would put in the show to attract a audience that know nothing of railroading. And in conclusion you can slam me if you want but I needed you all to know those little fact that you either overlooked or were to bent on flaming something to investigate. Oh and in all the engines it says "Dynamic brake disabled" even though there wern't any in them when the company bought them before I was born.

 

Per the third episode, to me it was as I've said before - a decent enough show, but the host is a bit much, due no doubt to the "extreme" nature of the show's title. I had the benefit to read all of these posts before watching it this evening, and I have to say he didnt' seem any different. Blame the editors if you wish, but he's the one moving his hands in a "wham - pow" fashion all of the time (and I don't mind hands moving while you speak - I'm Italian), it was clearly more than just an editing slip. If that's the TV persona they've chosen for him, well fine, but it would be foolish to think that he hasn't signed on to it.

I'm not looking to flame or out research the show. I'm 79% satisfied with the content so far, I just wish that the camera angles, cuts, speed, and the host himself as he's portrayed were backed off a notch or two.

Per the High Speed Trains of North America, I appreciated how they described the limitations to real speed. I've always wondered why the trains were not faster.

Hell, I live two hours North of Boston, and I can get to Baltimore in 8 hours by car. 7 hours from Boston to DC by train is not as high speed as I'd like to see. 

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Posted by Ibflattop on Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:00 AM

I really think that all of you wantabee Railroaders should tune in to thses shows and watch them. Ya might learn something that you can really pass off to the rest of us.    Kevin

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Posted by PA&ERR on Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:01 AM

I liked this episode.

SInce I grew up along the NEC and haven't been back there is about 20 years, it brought back a lot of memories.

Matt seems to have calmed down a little (or maybe I just didn't notice him being "over the top" so much because my wife kept say things like "Oohhh! Remember when we took the train to Philly?" or "Ohhh! There's Union Station in D.C.!")

Can't wait till next week!

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Posted by topcopdoc on Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:38 AM

 I really liked this chapter of Extreme Trains, which covered the Acela. I learned a lot about the Boston to Washington route and some surprising technical details about the train itself.  I probably will video the Acela since the Northeast Corridor, Menlo Park station is not too far from my home. It should be a very short tape.

 

The programs are certainly getting better. I am glad that I am recording each episode the same as I did with “Trains Unlimited”. The only one I missed of “Trains Unlimited” was the “Circus Train”.

 

It is almost impossible to get all the “Trains Unlimited” series now since the History Channel does not offer all of them for sale and what they do offer costs $24.95 a program. At least the last time I checked this was true.

 

History Channel is already selling the DVD of “Extreme Trains” for $24.95.

 

I am looking forward to seeing and recording the whole series.

 

Doc

 

 

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:02 AM

When is the show on?

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:04 AM

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I really think that all of you wantabee Railroaders should tune in to thses shows and watch them. Ya might learn something that you can really pass off to the rest of us.    Kevin

 

Ah,there lays the trap..

If these folk went railroadin' they would find out in a hurry how very little they really know..It was a real eye opener for a certain hot shot modeler/railfan back in '66 when he went to work on the PRR...Oh how he was humbled on his first training day.. 

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Posted by Ibflattop on Thursday, November 27, 2008 2:22 PM

Yes Indeed Larry! The same here when I went to work for NS back in 96............    Kevin

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Posted by larak on Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:09 PM

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When is the show on?

10PM EST Tuesday evenings. Rerun later that night.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, November 28, 2008 2:55 AM

All 3 are on saturday afternoon back to back.

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Friday, November 28, 2008 12:06 PM

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YA I'LL PROBABLY WATCH THE NEXT ONE AND: GRIT MY TEETH... HAVE A COUPLE OF MOLSONS ICED TO: CALM ME DOWN.

Speaking of gritting my teeth, this ain't a TV news script. Unlatch that CAPS LOCK!

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Friday, November 28, 2008 12:20 PM

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decent enough show, but the host is a bit much, due no doubt to the "extreme" nature of the show's title. I had the benefit to read all of these posts before watching it this evening, and I have to say he didnt' seem any different. Blame the editors if you wish, but he's the one moving his hands in a "wham - pow" fashion all of the time (and I don't mind hands moving while you speak - I'm Italian), it was clearly more than just an editing slip. If that's the TV persona they've chosen for him, well fine, but it would be foolish to think that he hasn't signed on to it.

After looking over the complaint on this thread and noting the people who claim this whacked-out, goofy talent, camera work, and editing is needed for such a non-mainstream topic, I have three words for you:

The Military Channel.

It runs dozens, even hundreds of documentaries about the abilities and failings of various types of tanks, or the merits of the Avenger fighter-bomber vs. the Dauntless, or the history of obscure WWII battles,but on none of these shows do I hear a crazy, goofy host. (Or see weird camera angles, for that matter.) The docs are well shot, packed with interesting information, and appeal to grown-ups. Just because the subject has a limited appeal and requires some background to understand, doesn't mean they dumb it down.

Perhaps selling the show as being about "extreme" trains is the problem. "Extreme" in this context, has no clear definition except, possibly, "exciting."

But it is a little insulting that the subject we love so much is seen as being so boring by these poducers that they have to liven it up like this, just to make it palatble enough for TV.

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 28, 2008 4:02 PM

Midnight Railroader

The Military Channel.

It runs dozens, even hundreds of documentaries about the abilities and failings of various types of tanks, or the merits of the Avenger fighter-bomber vs. the Dauntless, or the history of obscure WWII battles,but on none of these shows do I hear a crazy, goofy host. (Or see weird camera angles, for that matter.) The docs are well shot, packed with interesting information, and appeal to grown-ups. Just because the subject has a limited appeal and requires some background to understand, doesn't mean they dumb it down.

You haven't watched many of the shows hosted by the Snow's have you? They're a father son team who host military documentaries of many eras and they have lots of pretty weird camera angles, lots of gesturing and lots of CG to liven up what is for many a dull subject.

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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:44 PM

 

Quikie: what road was scene crossing the LA Lift bridge light? The one with the white saftey strips. Looks like MRL, but ti's a tad south to not be running a train...

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Posted by Kenfolk on Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:04 PM

oboy  . . . chance to catch up on episode I missed  now.  

I know, its a little bit much in its approach, but there's still some scenery and related information that is ...

informative.

And then afterwhile, some more football.  Smile,Wink, & Grin

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Posted by loathar on Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:04 PM

It's on right now if you missed it. Sat. 3:00pm Central time.

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Posted by Dan The Man on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 12:20 PM

 Well I hope tonights episode will be good, there talking about the Union Pacific 844.

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Posted by loathar on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 12:30 PM

Last weeks was good. I didn't realize EVERY reefer car had it's own diesel generator. I would think wheel driven generators and battery banks would be more efficient.Confused

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Posted by loathar on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:07 PM

Now THAT was a cool episode! I'll cut Matt some slack for acting goofy around the 844. I probably would have too.Tongue I'm kind of surprised they made no mention of the DD 40X at all and didn't really even show it till the end.

Good nuke train show on right now.

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Posted by Ibeamlicker on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:14 PM

I enjoyed tonights show,but yeah that guy is overly excitable.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:33 PM

Ibeamlicker

I enjoyed tonights show,but yeah that guy is overly excitable.

 

Don't know about you but,if I was going to ride in 844's cab I would be bursting with excitement..LOL! Wow!!Wow!!Yeah!!Wow!!

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Posted by SteamFreak on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:33 PM

That was a better episode, but I wish they could hold the bloody camera level. I know it's a show for the general public, but there's exciting camera work, and then there's just plain annoying. Leave the camera on 844 for more than 2.25 seconds, and let her do the talking. She's extreme enough.

Btw, did anyone else notice his crack about railfans being a strange breed, as if he somehow doesn't qualify? Laugh Those NS engineers in the first episode looked like they wanted to throw him down the front steps. People who live in glass houses...
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Posted by Ibeamlicker on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:38 PM

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Ibeamlicker

I enjoyed tonights show,but yeah that guy is overly excitable.

 

Don't know about you but,if I was going to ride in 844's cab I would be bursting with excitement..LOL! Wow!!Wow!!Yeah!!Wow!!

Oh I would want to explode with excitement,but he was over doing even loading the food in the cars.
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Posted by loathar on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:45 PM

I noticed he walked up to the one guy with the tape recorder and yelled "What are ya gonna use that recording for?" The guy should have replied "Nothing now that you yelled into the mic and ruined it!"Dunce

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Posted by lvanhen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:05 PM

Watched it & the Glow Train that followed (except for Jay Leno's monologue).  matt is getting easier to take, and I loved the UP steam!!!  Big Smile

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Posted by Dan The Man on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:14 PM

 I loved it, Matt was a better host this time.

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:28 PM

 The segment on UP's 844 was GREAT!!!

WOW!!! I'd love to ride on that train!!!

 

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Posted by DarkTalon on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:37 PM

The host is still annoying..and I am equally amazed that the dd40 got no attention whatsoever..it's just as important as the 844 to most people..

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